Capcom vs snk!: debate - Ahh.. yes... the long rivalry...

[Dan Hibiki]

Have YOU ever fought Ultimate Rugal from the KOF series? He makes Shin Akuma look like a wimp. I cried and cried while trying to beat him.

[Roll]

Well, EXCUSE me! I only just told him to TRY fighting him instead of trusting some person who wrote something down. For all I know, Vegetam could probably beat Ultimate Rugal easily. You don't have to blow up on me saying that I should play against him, when I never said the guy was easy.

[Dan Hibiki]

I seriously didn't blow up. I start cussing like crazy when I get angry (people will tell you that).

[Roll]

Sorry, I'm a bit touchy lately. A certain few pm's got sent to me by a certain person *coughbunmicough* and they just get me so angry, I just...just....UGH! I gotta go fight something...

[princevegetam]

um.. thanks for the compliment but, it's not likely roll. okay, here is the story with Ultimate Rugal (real name is: God Rugal) okay, basically, there are two MAIN bosses in CvS2. ShinAkuma and UltimateRugal, if you really fought both of them you can tell that ShinAkuma(the cpu keeps on doing hadokens) is nothing compared to UltimateRugal. in the shinakuma time line, akuma kills rugal with the raging demon and rulga in a last attempt thrusts his hand into akuma turning him into Shin Akuma with orochi blood(akuma goes crazy). in the ultimate rugal timeline, rugal easily defeats akuma and sucks the dark hado power out of akuma. then tosses akuma away. so ultimate rugal has the power of orochi and dark hado in him(this time line is often considered more official, because Ultimate rugal is supposedly the final last boss of CvS2, since it is harder to get to him).

anyways, these guys are nothing compared to Igniz from Kof 2001(in my opinion of course). i swear, that igniz guy is invincible. even if he only has 1/4 of his life, i still can't beat the damn cheapass.

[SSJKarma]

man, don't you even consider some factors in this poll? i'd say it's likely that 90% of all ppl in this forum are either fans of marvel or SF. so of course they're gonna vote for the one they know about. i bet 80% of the ppl in this forum don't even know what SNK is.

you said it yourself VEGETAM !
the only reason why SNK isn't known much is because it sucks and people loves REAL fighting games !

anyway, back to the ORIGINAL topic you created...
a debate cannot be on in this kind of case, why ? because if the game wasn't balanced and EVEN the game wouldn't last too long in the arcade and would get trown in the toilet as fast as it was created !

you say capcom games suck more than SNK ! FINE your opinion, but telling that SNK chars would beat Capcoms char is purely your Opinion and you can't really debate on opinions !

let me just finish this with the simpliest question...
if SNK can beat Capcoms, why are there people beating out the game without cheats, with SF characters ?

i think that explain why this debate should be lock cause there is no point arguing on OPINIONS simply because opinions aren't even base on REAL things !

i love capcoms games better because its the way it is and that's final... here is the only answer you'll ever get in this kind of debate ! so sorry if this hurt your feeling and i hope you won't FLAME me with "YOU DON'T KNOW SNK, THAT IS WHY YOU SAY SO" because from the start it's the only thing i heard from your mouth !

[princevegetam]

okay.... *rolls eyes* i have no idea where that sudden outburst of hostility came from. but i didn't say that SNK isn't known much because it sucks. i bet if this debate was in a forum about a SNK game, then the tides would turn. and part of your argument is true, yeah, when i say i like SNK better than Capcom, that's my opinion. but debating on which companies' characters would win in a fight is a different matter. the thing is, SNK characters HAVE beaten the best of Capcom. rugal, tossed Akuma around like a rag doll and sucked away the guy's dark hado energy to make himself into Ultimate Rugal. besides, if you've ever played boss characters from either capcom or SNK. SNK bosses are always more hard to beat than capcom(this isn't an opinion, cause the difference in fighting power is just too much to be considered an opinion). and the only reason i said "YOU DON'T KNOW SNK, THAT IS WHY YOU SAY SO" for only ONCE, is cause, well think about it. how could you debate on something if you havent established a position on the matter after hearing arguements from both sides?

[SSJKarma]

i know i don't know those GAMES like my pocket but it doesn't mean i can't say anything about em !

and you still not answered my question !
if SNK is that STRONG over CAPCOM why is there people beating the crap out of the final boss in CvsSNK games, with SF chars ?

answer:
because the damn game is BALANCED and thoo you love SNK better, it is a game and everyone has their advantage over the others ! so there is no winners in strenght just better players !

The AI cannot be involved in this as the AI is made for you to have nightmare about a char you can't beat ! lets say that even DAN HIBIKI could destroy you in an instant if it were for his AI made for it !

the fact is, there is no STRONGER chars in all fighting games as they have their advantage over all the other chars and that include all the so called JOKE CHARS !

example:
servbot: doesn't hit hard but sure can be hard to hit !
DAN HIBIKI: the only char that can combo ALL his supers and so is the only char that boost when he taunt

those are pretty good example...
like i always said...
THERE IS NO BETTER CHARS, BUT THERE ARE BETTER PLAYERS !

[DX Zero]

agreed

[Tantum]

Princevegetam, that statement is complete nonsense ("ultimate whoever, is the best character... because he's impossible to beat.") how do you figure? if... a level 1 benjamaru's difficulty got shot up to 50 (normal max = 8) i bet you couldn't kill it with 5 level 4 characters!!!