Not showing in tournaments - Little rules to respect when joining...

SSJKarma · 08-06-2002, 11:02 PM

1 - check if you can be there and if you don't know when it will be, just ask them !

2 - if you joined, BE THERE, unless you have a real good reason (example: my computer exploded)

3 - there is a time indicated for all tournaments, be there at that time and everything will be ok !

**this is for people who host tournaments**
1 - people have other things to do in the day (at least i hope for them) so be calm and don't disqualified a guy who was there for about 2 hours in line !

2 - be sure to PM everyone the time and date the tourney will be, or write it in the forum.

3 - the 3rd rules above apply to you too !

i know i never hosted tournaments, but i know what they are for. and i know how much time it takes, but tourney like the SOF TOURNEY are thing that should never happen again ! players that joined should always shows up or talk it BEFORE the fight with their opponent to settle a time to meet for the fight...

giving them time to train is something good too !
example: Necro2k2 gave me a fight for training (i looked the way he fought) even if i lost, I WAS THERE. that's the most important thing in tourney.

now be good and keep those rules in your mind !

akuma_forever · 08-07-2002, 05:22 AM

um,are you a new mod or somthing???

08-07-2002, 06:49 AM

Adressing your rules for the players: I like it :biggrin:

Adressing your rules for the tournament hosters:

1. I can only guess you put this here because of TOC II because I've never even heard of this thing happening to someone who has waited that long (except perhaps a few in TOC II). And the fact is, the tournament can't be held up for anyone (ever). You'll know that the instant you even try to host a tournament.

2. PM's and posting it on the official forum don't work because unlike us, most of the people who do sign up won't be regulars at the official forum, and a lot won't even have accounts. Which is why we always use emails. And even there.. some people won't check them.

3. Not all tournaments have an indicated time for play. UrbanNijna's tournament didn't, neither does ISOU (which by the way creates uncountable no-shows and destroys the tournament). And if you remember, TOC I and III didn't have scheduled times either, but TOC I opperated on individual opponents setting up their matches whereas TOC III opperated on "find and fight" up to 10 opponents a day, which caused more no shows.

In every case I've seen in a scheduled date tournament, the tournament hoster has been there (and I'd like for you to try and prove me wrong on that).

[quote

ost_uid0="SSJKarma@posted above"]i know i never hosted tournaments, but i know what they are for. and i know how much time it takes, but tourney like the SOF TOURNEY are thing that should never happen again ! players that joined should always shows up or talk it BEFORE the fight with their opponent to settle a time to meet for the fight...

giving them time to train is something good too !
example: Necro2k2 gave me a fight for training (i looked the way he fought) even if i lost, I WAS THERE. that's the most important thing in tourney.[/quote]

You may know how much time a tournament takes and what it's for, but you'll never (ever) know just how difficult it is to design one with minimal no-shows until you host one yourself.

Giving them time to train is a BAD THING. That will only cause less people to show up, which is BTW, your most difficult obstacle to get around. A tournament should NEVER hold registration longer than a week and a half, and ideally a week for registration. Then the fights should follow immediately afterwards, and emails sent as soon as registration closes, or even better, right after someone signs up, informing them of when to expect another email.

I hope I adressed everything you said in complete...

I really should make an article at Senshukentaikai about this...

(R)Dragon(R) · 08-07-2002, 05:37 PM

[quote

ost_uid0="2000warrior"]Adressing your rules for the players: I like it :biggrin:

Adressing your rules for the tournament hosters:

1. I can only guess you put this here because of TOC II because I've never even heard of this thing happening to someone who has waited that long (except perhaps a few in TOC II). And the fact is, the tournament can't be held up for anyone (ever). You'll know that the instant you even try to host a tournament.

2. PM's and posting it on the official forum don't work because unlike us, most of the people who do sign up won't be regulars at the official forum, and a lot won't even have accounts. Which is why we always use emails. And even there.. some people won't check them.

3. Not all tournaments have an indicated time for play. UrbanNijna's tournament didn't, neither does ISOU (which by the way creates uncountable no-shows and destroys the tournament). And if you remember, TOC I and III didn't have scheduled times either, but TOC I opperated on individual opponents setting up their matches whereas TOC III opperated on "find and fight" up to 10 opponents a day, which caused more no shows.

In every case I've seen in a scheduled date tournament, the tournament hoster has been there (and I'd like for you to try and prove me wrong on that).

[quote

ost_uid0="SSJKarma@posted above"]i know i never hosted tournaments, but i know what they are for. and i know how much time it takes, but tourney like the SOF TOURNEY are thing that should never happen again ! players that joined should always shows up or talk it BEFORE the fight with their opponent to settle a time to meet for the fight...

giving them time to train is something good too !
example: Necro2k2 gave me a fight for training (i looked the way he fought) even if i lost, I WAS THERE. that's the most important thing in tourney.[/quote]

You may know how much time a tournament takes and what it's for, but you'll never (ever) know just how difficult it is to design one with minimal no-shows until you host one yourself.

Giving them time to train is a BAD THING. That will only cause less people to show up, which is BTW, your most difficult obstacle to get around. A tournament should NEVER hold registration longer than a week and a half, and ideally a week for registration. Then the fights should follow immediately afterwards, and emails sent as soon as registration closes, or even better, right after someone signs up, informing them of when to expect another email.

I hope I adressed everything you said in complete...

I really should make an article at Senshukentaikai about this...[/quote]
dubya tee eff Warrior. :lol: u write so much. o well ur right :lol:
:yinyang:

SSJKarma · 08-07-2002, 08:57 PM

2000 warrior: is this all you had to say ?

damn, i thought it would be bigger than that :colgate:

anyway, i never said it was easy to make a tourney, nor did i said it would never be MY rules. i just said that no players are perfect and no hosters are ! give players a little chance to prove what they are in tournaments, and i said to players:"YOU JOINED, YOU FIGHTS" that's exactly what tournament are all about. even you know that, i will probably never host a tournament (except the one on my web page), but i know for sure that lots of people signed in and never showed up, that destroy the whole tourney... and that for whatever time you planned it !

i just, wanted to make clear my point.
not showing is the most annoying thing people will ever do.
i ask, what was the point of joining, if you couldn't fight ?

don't take the rule if you want... but for my part, i will always remember it. it is what count the most ! losing or winning isn't important as long as you showed up !

(R)Dragon(R) · 08-08-2002, 09:59 AM

from what i think thats longer than all my post put together :lol: :yinyang:

08-08-2002, 03:54 PM

Sorry for the overly lengthy post :biggrin:

No-shows are the whole reason that tournaments fail consistantly.

DX Zero · 08-08-2002, 08:17 PM

uh good point....

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08-06-2002, 11:02 PM	#1
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	1 - check if you can be there and if you don't know when it will be, just ask them ! 2 - if you joined, BE THERE, unless you have a real good reason (example: my computer exploded) 3 - there is a time indicated for all tournaments, be there at that time and everything will be ok ! this is for people who host tournaments 1 - people have other things to do in the day (at least i hope for them) so be calm and don't disqualified a guy who was there for about 2 hours in line ! 2 - be sure to PM everyone the time and date the tourney will be, or write it in the forum. 3 - the 3rd rules above apply to you too ! i know i never hosted tournaments, but i know what they are for. and i know how much time it takes, but tourney like the SOF TOURNEY are thing that should never happen again ! players that joined should always shows up or talk it BEFORE the fight with their opponent to settle a time to meet for the fight... giving them time to train is something good too ! example: Necro2k2 gave me a fight for training (i looked the way he fought) even if i lost, I WAS THERE. that's the most important thing in tourney. now be good and keep those rules in your mind ! __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

08-07-2002, 06:49 AM	#3
Guest Posts: n/a Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): Thanks (Received): Likes (Given): Likes (Received): Dislikes (Given): Dislikes (Received): Points: 0 Mentioned: Post(s) Tagged: Thread(s) Quoted: Post(s)	Adressing your rules for the players: I like it :biggrin: Adressing your rules for the tournament hosters: 1. I can only guess you put this here because of TOC II because I've never even heard of this thing happening to someone who has waited that long (except perhaps a few in TOC II). And the fact is, the tournament can't be held up for anyone (ever). You'll know that the instant you even try to host a tournament. 2. PM's and posting it on the official forum don't work because unlike us, most of the people who do sign up won't be regulars at the official forum, and a lot won't even have accounts. Which is why we always use emails. And even there.. some people won't check them. 3. Not all tournaments have an indicated time for play. UrbanNijna's tournament didn't, neither does ISOU (which by the way creates uncountable no-shows and destroys the tournament). And if you remember, TOC I and III didn't have scheduled times either, but TOC I opperated on individual opponents setting up their matches whereas TOC III opperated on "find and fight" up to 10 opponents a day, which caused more no shows. In every case I've seen in a scheduled date tournament, the tournament hoster has been there (and I'd like for you to try and prove me wrong on that). [quoteost_uid0="SSJKarma@posted above"]i know i never hosted tournaments, but i know what they are for. and i know how much time it takes, but tourney like the SOF TOURNEY are thing that should never happen again ! players that joined should always shows up or talk it BEFORE the fight with their opponent to settle a time to meet for the fight... giving them time to train is something good too ! example: Necro2k2 gave me a fight for training (i looked the way he fought) even if i lost, I WAS THERE. that's the most important thing in tourney.[/quote] You may know how much time a tournament takes and what it's for, but you'll never (ever) know just how difficult it is to design one with minimal no-shows until you host one yourself. Giving them time to train is a BAD THING. That will only cause less people to show up, which is BTW, your most difficult obstacle to get around. A tournament should NEVER hold registration longer than a week and a half, and ideally a week for registration. Then the fights should follow immediately afterwards, and emails sent as soon as registration closes, or even better, right after someone signs up, informing them of when to expect another email. I hope I adressed everything you said in complete... I really should make an article at Senshukentaikai about this...

08-07-2002, 05:37 PM	#4
(R)Dragon(R) Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 993 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="2000warrior"]Adressing your rules for the players: I like it :biggrin: Adressing your rules for the tournament hosters: 1. I can only guess you put this here because of TOC II because I've never even heard of this thing happening to someone who has waited that long (except perhaps a few in TOC II). And the fact is, the tournament can't be held up for anyone (ever). You'll know that the instant you even try to host a tournament. 2. PM's and posting it on the official forum don't work because unlike us, most of the people who do sign up won't be regulars at the official forum, and a lot won't even have accounts. Which is why we always use emails. And even there.. some people won't check them. 3. Not all tournaments have an indicated time for play. UrbanNijna's tournament didn't, neither does ISOU (which by the way creates uncountable no-shows and destroys the tournament). And if you remember, TOC I and III didn't have scheduled times either, but TOC I opperated on individual opponents setting up their matches whereas TOC III opperated on "find and fight" up to 10 opponents a day, which caused more no shows. In every case I've seen in a scheduled date tournament, the tournament hoster has been there (and I'd like for you to try and prove me wrong on that). [quoteost_uid0="SSJKarma@posted above"]i know i never hosted tournaments, but i know what they are for. and i know how much time it takes, but tourney like the SOF TOURNEY are thing that should never happen again ! players that joined should always shows up or talk it BEFORE the fight with their opponent to settle a time to meet for the fight... giving them time to train is something good too ! example: Necro2k2 gave me a fight for training (i looked the way he fought) even if i lost, I WAS THERE. that's the most important thing in tourney.[/quote] You may know how much time a tournament takes and what it's for, but you'll never (ever) know just how difficult it is to design one with minimal no-shows until you host one yourself. Giving them time to train is a BAD THING. That will only cause less people to show up, which is BTW, your most difficult obstacle to get around. A tournament should NEVER hold registration longer than a week and a half, and ideally a week for registration. Then the fights should follow immediately afterwards, and emails sent as soon as registration closes, or even better, right after someone signs up, informing them of when to expect another email. I hope I adressed everything you said in complete... I really should make an article at Senshukentaikai about this...[/quote] dubya tee eff Warrior. :lol: u write so much. o well ur right :lol: :yinyang:

08-07-2002, 08:57 PM	#5
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	2000 warrior: is this all you had to say ? damn, i thought it would be bigger than that :colgate: anyway, i never said it was easy to make a tourney, nor did i said it would never be MY rules. i just said that no players are perfect and no hosters are ! give players a little chance to prove what they are in tournaments, and i said to players:"YOU JOINED, YOU FIGHTS" that's exactly what tournament are all about. even you know that, i will probably never host a tournament (except the one on my web page), but i know for sure that lots of people signed in and never showed up, that destroy the whole tourney... and that for whatever time you planned it ! i just, wanted to make clear my point. not showing is the most annoying thing people will ever do. i ask, what was the point of joining, if you couldn't fight ? don't take the rule if you want... but for my part, i will always remember it. it is what count the most ! losing or winning isn't important as long as you showed up ! __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

08-07-2002, 05:22 AM	#2
akuma_forever Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The World Posts: 4,392 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	um,are you a new mod or somthing???

08-08-2002, 09:59 AM	#6
(R)Dragon(R) Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 993 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	from what i think thats longer than all my post put together :lol: :yinyang:

08-08-2002, 03:54 PM	#7
Guest Posts: n/a Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): Thanks (Received): Likes (Given): Likes (Received): Dislikes (Given): Dislikes (Received): Points: 0 Mentioned: Post(s) Tagged: Thread(s) Quoted: Post(s)	Sorry for the overly lengthy post :biggrin: No-shows are the whole reason that tournaments fail consistantly.

08-08-2002, 08:17 PM	#8
DX Zero Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,139 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	uh good point.... __________________ DX was here.