Who is really in control? - God, humans, the earth, or the universe

[Virtual Fighter]

suck what? you just proved that the Bible is a legitimate source of knowledge......mabey if the Roman Catholics actually read the Bible then they wouldnt have killed all the people who said the sun was the center of the universe.

Re-read what you just said. I'll say it nicley, since I really could go off right now using every cussword in the dictionary.

The bible is wrong. It says there, blatantly, that they believed the sun goes around the earth. That's not true. The bible is wrong. The bible is not perfect, if anything.

These were assertions you said. Therefore, you are wrong.

those are taken waaay out of context and if you read and studied it in hebrew it would make alot more sense.

Oh, and you know hebrew? No, you don't. The english translation exactly the same as the hebrew version, and those contredictions exsist in EVERY VERSION. The bible is wrong! Admit it, it's blatantly obviouse. If person A, who got put into the bible says the sky is blue and person B says it's red, that's a contrediction and in the same book creates a paradox, making not only the bible not perfect but WRONG.

and there are hundreds of scientists that say I came from a monkey very simelar to bigfoot with bullpoop "evidence".......but that doesnt mean its true, does it?....apparently to alot of people today.

Yeah, because the scientists only spent their entire lifes work researching this, using crainial studies, genome projects, evolutionary theories and expiriments to come up with this theory.

But noooo... you'd rather get the easy to understand bullpoop "god did it. Shut up, quit thinking." ideal. That's what's wrong with the world. We believe in fairey tales.

why not?......I mean, I can tell that you dont have any mental problems...well no serious ones. so why not believe you?

Because it's not true! You people are so damn gullabe. You believe everything you hear, no matter how rediculous.

it's so repulsiive VF says.!!!!

Shut up, you're making christians look bad. Secondly, aren't christians supposed to "turn the other cheeck" and love thy neighbor?

Becayuse you sure as poop aren't showing that now. Hypocrite.

This is how i believe. (not too offend people but this is how i see other religion) People say that Mohammad was true but did they have evedince? Or greek Mythology? People have Items at that time and place of jesus. Stories and other evidence that can prove his miracles were true.

WOW! PEOPLE HAVE FOUND ITEMS FROM WHEN JESUS WAS BORN!

Yeah, it's called history. Jesus did exsist. Did they find 400 dead fish skeletons from that night? No. What about him floating on water, is there proof of that? No. They havn't even found his tomb.

He did exsist, but the miricles he supposedly made are still un proven.

Mohammad also exsisted. If he was really spoken by the angel garbial, that's un proven. Did he really lead an army of 3,000 against 10,000? Yes, he did. We have the historical evidense to prove it. Did he do all those miricles and such?

No because Mohammad didn't do miricles, he was a profit. (supposedly)

Stories as evidense? That's bullpoop. That's like me quoting the little red riding hood as evidense to prove wear wolves do exsist.

And, greek mythology is all story. They're stories. They say the world was started when mother earth had sex with father sky, and have a bunch of kids, and so on and so on. What's the difference from that and the god-7 day theory? There is none. Both aren't true.



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[Vash]

God or God's is of course

[Angel-Eyes]

[quoteost_uid0="Virtual Fighter"][/quote]
to prove that the Bible is legitimate I will painstakingly beat the hell out of the website you provided

stay tuned:

[Virtual Fighter]

What ever happened to "turn the other cheeck"?

[Angel-Eyes]

I didnt notice that I got slapped...


Vash: you are a human wasteland

[(~Miguel~)]

[quoteost_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]WOW! PEOPLE HAVE FOUND ITEMS FROM WHEN JESUS WAS BORN!

Yeah, it's called history. Jesus did exsist. Did they find 400 dead fish skeletons from that night? No. What about him floating on water, is there proof of that? No. They havn't even found his tomb.

He did exsist, but the miricles he supposedly made are still un proven.

Mohammad also exsisted. If he was really spoken by the angel garbial, that's un proven. Did he really lead an army of 3,000 against 10,000? Yes, he did. We have the historical evidense to prove it. Did he do all those miricles and such?

No because Mohammad didn't do miricles, he was a profit. (supposedly)

Stories as evidense? That's bullpoop. That's like me quoting the little red riding hood as evidense to prove wear wolves do exsist.

And, greek mythology is all story. They're stories. They say the world was started when mother earth had sex with father sky, and have a bunch of kids, and so on and so on. What's the difference from that and the god-7 day theory? There is none. Both aren't true.[/quote]
How can you say that they aren't true if you yourself or me neither have evidence of them happening. :huh2: secondly it wasn't a warewolf it was just a wolf. And besides WE doo need evidence to know what actually happend.

[Virtual Fighter]

That's insane. You're saying I don't have any evidense to know it didn't happen, i'm saying there isn't any evidence to say it did happen.

Guess what? THERE'S NO EVIDENSE NEEDED TO SAY SOMETHING DIDN'T HAPPEN! How abuot this? It's impossible. How about this more? There's no doubt because there's no PROOF it happened.

I'm not on trial here. I'm not the one saying rediculous things about people walking on water, preforming levetation, rising from the dead, such and such.

I'm not the one who has to prove it did or didn't happen, that's you. You're the one going against science, history and logic. You're the one that needs to prove to me, not the other way around.

[(~Miguel~)]

I have to start all over again. ???

God good to all, or just a few?

PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

Hes Good to all, And the Lord ment he will destroy Satan.

War or Peace?
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

Yes A Man of war to Satan. :huh2: The reason the lord speaks like that is for you to understand.

Who is the father of Joseph?
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

"The answer to this supposed contradiction is relatively simple: the first seventeen verses in the first chapter of Matthew give the genealogy of Jesus through Joseph, while Luke 3 presents the genealogy of Jesus through Mary. Hence, Jacob is the father of Joseph (Matthew 1:16), while Heli is the father of Mary (Luke 3:23). If this is true, the logical question that both critics and serious Bible students ask is why Mary is not mentioned in Luke’s genealogy? The answer is again quite simple: Luke follows the strict Hebrew tradition of mentioning only the names of males. Therefore, in this case, Mary is designated by her husband’s name."
- ca href="www.apologeticspress.org/articles/609" target="_blank">www.apologeticspress.org/articles/609 c/a>

Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:
MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

All of them, The first two quotes are the same. and Mary Magdalene was the first one to come, and on followed the rest.

Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.
JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

They are one, Why? because God made jesus like him. Jesus said that because There is only one God and you should respect him.

Which first--beasts or man?
GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

God made man first, but in the first quote he was talking about how he was goin to make the creatures. And in the third quote its talking about Eve because adam was alone.

The number of beasts in the ark
GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, GEN 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

People should observe the quote before. :huh2: Noah got the clean animals(all of them) by seven and unclean by two. so he guided them by two by two.

do the rest later its 11:35. :sleepy:

I'm not the one who has to prove it did or didn't happen, that's you. You're the one going against science, history and logic. You're the one that needs to prove to me, not the other way around.

Oh i did i say that sorry. I believe in jesus, besides i have all the evidence i need to belive in jesus.



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[blanka09]

[quoteost_uid0="Virtual Fighter"][quoteost_uid0="~Mastermax~"]vf your wrong, the reason there is a contradiction, is becuase you shouldn't screw your sister anymore, long ago it was ok becuase there were much less people in the world, now it's hard not to bone your sister, and becuase of the worlds diveresity, a child is more likely to be born with a birth defect becuase of repeating genes.[/quote]
Uhh, wrong. The "your child comes out with birthdefects" is another myth (or lie) started by the church. There is no greater chance of your child coming out with birthdefects in eigther way.[/quote]
Obviously you're not taking the point of climate differences and migration as being the ultimate reason for the diverse skin color you find in homo sapiens today. Adaptation is also a big part... unknowingly learning how to deal with the sun :biggrin:

[Virtual Fighter]

Well, miguel, no need to post your own ideas about what the bible says, because the contredictions are clear as day, and obviously you're not doing your job if you're trying to disprove certain sections of the bible. If the bible was so perfect it wouldn't be giving us one idea, then saying that idea is wrong, then saying it's right again.

Secondly, there is no evidense to back up the bible. None what so ever. If there is, post it. Post the links, post the historical background. And none of this "The bible is true because in the bible it says it's true" stuff.

Harry Potter is also a book but you don't see anyone thinking that's true.