Who is really in control? - God, humans, the earth, or the universe

Zpower · 07-14-2005, 02:52 PM

Lets start off with God or gods:
-Many religons belive in a single God and some belive in many Gods.
-These religons belive that their god or gods is in control of every aspect of life before, after, and beyond.
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Could these religons be actually true? That one being or beings of unlimited power that is far uncomprehensible to man be in control of the entire universe and beyond. Many belive this to be true however many also belive this to be false. Many argue that if there were a God or gods somehow the Earth wouldnt be so corrupt with the evil doings of Humans. A counter to that arguement is simple, for God or the gods do not interfere in the matters/cares/troubles of reckless men.
This debate upon if religon/religons are true is many. Will there ever be a "clear" answer to whether or not religon is true? I guess only time will tell. I for one belive science and math together with a new form of knowledge yet unknown to man will answer these questions and many others.....in the near future ofcourse.
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Anyhow lets move on to Humans:
-Some say Humans and all other species of life on Earth and the Earth were created by God or the Gods.
-Many say that ........

NOTE*I'll finish the rest later I have some buisness to see to for the moment....Feel free to add information, comments and so on.. maybe we can answer some of these questions together haha... yahright... any scientist in the building? lol

Edited By Zpower on 1121378086

caylan1234 · 07-14-2005, 03:01 PM

.......

Im confused

DA_VIPA · 07-14-2005, 03:03 PM

control what..?
people control what they do..and what can happen to them..ur destiny is in ur own hands..its how you use it..

Zpower · 07-14-2005, 03:14 PM

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ost_uid0="DA_VIPA"]control what..?[/quote]
Sorry if I didnt make that clear. What I mean by who is really in control I mean who is in control of your life, my life, other species on Earth, the Earth, the Universe or if you said the Earth then you're saying the Earth controls life for you, me and whatever upon it and somehow controls the universe and beyond. By choosing the unviserse you say that the universe is in control of life and so on. You get the picture now? By your statement I guess you're picking humans as in control of their own life. However there are many arguments to that statement. Maybe you can post some relevant/factual material to back that statement up more. Im not saying anyone is wrong... Im neutral in this I just want to hear what other people think.... reason for the poll itself.... hopefully I will get some good responses if not I'll close it like I do most my threads around here....

SIDENOTE* Also you wrote that humans are in control of their own destiny. However that is a funny statement since the word destiny means "a predetermined course of events considered as something beyond human power or control". If we are in control of our own destiny then why does the definiton of destiny means beyond human power or control?... funny statement you made well I think so hehe... but anyhow thanks for the comment more than I can say for some people.

Edited By Zpower on 1121379806

~Mastermax~ · 07-14-2005, 06:31 PM

all that controls humanity now is the continous war between Zombie Jesus and RoboSalazar from RE4....

marvel911 · 07-14-2005, 10:01 PM

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ost_uid0="~Mastermax~"]all that controls humanity now is the continous war between Zombie Jesus and RoboSalazar from RE4....[/quote]
Haha, 5 star post my friend.

Rage_Unleashed · 07-14-2005, 10:43 PM

this topic is so controversial its like putting michael jackson and a little boy together. Your in control of your own life, nothing controls it. Just like when Isaac Newton discovered gravity he disproved what christians thought about almost everything. So religion doesnt have anything to do with this.

privatepure · 07-14-2005, 11:36 PM

hehe look at this this is weird i wonder if any1 thought of this:
god created god,who created god?who created the person who created god?and so on and so on?and the universe how do scientist rlly know that the thing wit something collapsing togheter and who made that thing

alamgir · 07-15-2005, 06:13 AM

You definitely won't get everyone agreeing on this in any case.

mastergrim8 · 07-15-2005, 06:33 AM

god he is the superior one and also satin (bastard) recently this guy on the news survived this horrible car accident when he was driving to have lunch with his wife, debrees from somewhere sizes of a computers just flew into his window, but near the window was the holy bible and the glass didnt scratch the bible but landed little shards on it the bible was unscaved and the man survived with little cuts and the car was total on the outside i believe him his exact wors "divine intervention" GOD

God or gods[Whoever that or they may be to you]	9	60.00%
Humans	1	6.67%
the Earth	1	6.67%
the Universe	1	6.67%
Other	3	20.00%
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07-14-2005, 02:52 PM	#1
Zpower Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,038 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Lets start off with God or gods: -Many religons belive in a single God and some belive in many Gods. -These religons belive that their god or gods is in control of every aspect of life before, after, and beyond. -------------------- Could these religons be actually true? That one being or beings of unlimited power that is far uncomprehensible to man be in control of the entire universe and beyond. Many belive this to be true however many also belive this to be false. Many argue that if there were a God or gods somehow the Earth wouldnt be so corrupt with the evil doings of Humans. A counter to that arguement is simple, for God or the gods do not interfere in the matters/cares/troubles of reckless men. This debate upon if religon/religons are true is many. Will there ever be a "clear" answer to whether or not religon is true? I guess only time will tell. I for one belive science and math together with a new form of knowledge yet unknown to man will answer these questions and many others.....in the near future ofcourse. ------------------------------------- Anyhow lets move on to Humans: -Some say Humans and all other species of life on Earth and the Earth were created by God or the Gods. -Many say that ........ NOTE*I'll finish the rest later I have some buisness to see to for the moment....Feel free to add information, comments and so on.. maybe we can answer some of these questions together haha... yahright... any scientist in the building? lol Edited By Zpower on 1121378086 __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/Foster5k/jillandz.gif[/img:sig_uid] <s>rewopzmaI</s>

07-14-2005, 03:01 PM	#2
caylan1234 Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 155 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	....... Im confused __________________ What doesent hurt you can only make you better

07-14-2005, 03:14 PM	#4
Zpower Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,038 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="DA_VIPA"]control what..?[/quote] Sorry if I didnt make that clear. What I mean by who is really in control I mean who is in control of your life, my life, other species on Earth, the Earth, the Universe or if you said the Earth then you're saying the Earth controls life for you, me and whatever upon it and somehow controls the universe and beyond. By choosing the unviserse you say that the universe is in control of life and so on. You get the picture now? By your statement I guess you're picking humans as in control of their own life. However there are many arguments to that statement. Maybe you can post some relevant/factual material to back that statement up more. Im not saying anyone is wrong... Im neutral in this I just want to hear what other people think.... reason for the poll itself.... hopefully I will get some good responses if not I'll close it like I do most my threads around here.... SIDENOTE* Also you wrote that humans are in control of their own destiny. However that is a funny statement since the word destiny means "a predetermined course of events considered as something beyond human power or control". If we are in control of our own destiny then why does the definiton of destiny means beyond human power or control?... funny statement you made well I think so hehe... but anyhow thanks for the comment more than I can say for some people. Edited By Zpower on 1121379806 __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/Foster5k/jillandz.gif[/img:sig_uid] <s>rewopzmaI</s>

07-14-2005, 03:03 PM	#3
DA_VIPA Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ...haha u cant find me Posts: 2,364 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	control what..? people control what they do..and what can happen to them..ur destiny is in ur own hands..its how you use it..

07-14-2005, 06:31 PM	#5
~Mastermax~ Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Fetus of God (it's a level from darkstalkers, smartass!) Posts: 1,983 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	all that controls humanity now is the continous war between Zombie Jesus and RoboSalazar from RE4.... __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/AllYourBaseAnimated.gif[/img:sig_uid]

07-14-2005, 10:01 PM	#6
marvel911 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Northern Hemisphere Posts: 6,610 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="~Mastermax~"]all that controls humanity now is the continous war between Zombie Jesus and RoboSalazar from RE4....[/quote] Haha, 5 star post my friend. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/mcclean/M911.gif[/img:sig_uid]

07-14-2005, 10:43 PM	#7
Rage_Unleashed Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 425 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	this topic is so controversial its like putting michael jackson and a little boy together. Your in control of your own life, nothing controls it. Just like when Isaac Newton discovered gravity he disproved what christians thought about almost everything. So religion doesnt have anything to do with this. __________________ What doesnt kill me, only me makes me stronger.

07-14-2005, 11:36 PM	#8
privatepure Member New Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: yonker ny Posts: 98 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	hehe look at this this is weird i wonder if any1 thought of this: god created god,who created god?who created the person who created god?and so on and so on?and the universe how do scientist rlly know that the thing wit something collapsing togheter and who made that thing __________________ Easy there killa, you may become "banned" from the forum long before you become a "member" at your current post rate. Make sure to read and abide by all the forum rules please.

07-15-2005, 06:13 AM	#9
alamgir Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,865 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	You definitely won't get everyone agreeing on this in any case. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/alamgir/advancedborder-ice.jpg[/img:sig_uid] When your the number one public enemy, who do you turn to?

07-15-2005, 06:33 AM	#10
mastergrim8 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: AH LOCATION BROOKLYN.NEWYORK Posts: 1,560 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	god he is the superior one and also satin (bastard) recently this guy on the news survived this horrible car accident when he was driving to have lunch with his wife, debrees from somewhere sizes of a computers just flew into his window, but near the window was the holy bible and the glass didnt scratch the bible but landed little shards on it the bible was unscaved and the man survived with little cuts and the car was total on the outside i believe him his exact wors "divine intervention" GOD __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/mastergrim8/Protoman_Banner.jpg[/img:sig_uid] IF YOU DO GOOD YOU ARE REWARDED FOR YOUR GOOD IF YOU DO BAD YOUR PUNISHED FOR YOUR EVIL ITS TRUE ABOUT WHAT THEY SAY WHATGOES AROUND COMES AROUND EVERY ACTION HAS ITS OWN WAY TO MAKE IT BACK TO YOU THAT TAKES ITS OWN COURSE