The Best Players....

Tantum · 04-19-2002, 12:22 PM

The Best Players ( of Arcade versions, and early net versions... before the mass lag ) are the best not because they practice all the time, not because of most reasons i hear on this forum.

The traits that make people great at fighting games fall into two catagories...

#1) hand speed, and reaction time-
this is something you cannot gain, only slightly improve, if your reaction sucks the first time you play, you'll never have great reaction time.

#2) Strategy-
Strategy is something you can improve upon.

but for all of you who just dont understand...

Anyone with awesome speed and reaction, will beat anyone who knows cool strategies, you know why? cause a person who knows what your doing cant be touched.

Handspeed and reaction arent even part of xmvsf online anymore, which is why it has become less interesting, the more lag, the less skill, the less fun for a good fighter. thus all the great players quit, or rarely play.

character base ( if you play this guy - then your this style )

Akuma - Strategy / Reaction

Spiderman - Hand speed

Ken - Reaction / Hand speed / Strategy ( the trademark character of a naturally awesome player )

Ryu - Strategy

Cyclops - Strategy / Reaction

Wolverine - Reaction / Hand speed

to name but a few....

Im not trying to mock this online game, TMy is doing a good job, but a great player isnt a great player in lag, only an average player, as all are.

SSJKarma · 04-19-2002, 12:38 PM

great thinking, but ...

i doubt it is just that !
i mean i am good at this game (arcade or saturn version)
but in this version cause of lag im not as good, the way
it is is simple, when you have time to see your opponent
do his shinkuu, you know how to react but when you
don't see him do it cause he is actually jumping behind
you but you still see him in front. you just dont have the
right reaction !

in a way you're right about this !
the other way is !

you can learn how to play, but you'll have to learn on
yourself what button you have to push, and at what
time !

it is not reaction / speed or anything, it is just timing
your hit with the right opponent move !

TarkanX · 04-19-2002, 04:45 PM

Storm: cheapness

DX Zero · 04-19-2002, 06:40 PM

man storm go crazy u shouldnt mess wit her lol
btw i use akuma, spiderman, and guile :biggrin:...

TarkanX · 04-19-2002, 07:54 PM

You use Guile? I would use Guile in a regular SF game, but a VS game with insane dialing combos, and super moves that fill the screen? he doesn't stand a chance, since he has to charge. Akuma is good, but isn't in the high tiers. Guile is a low ranked character in MvC2, and spider man is okay.

The best you should use are:

Sentinel
Spiral
Magneto
Cable(of course)
Storm(cheapness)
Cyclops
Strider Hiryu(ultima combos)
Cammy
Ryu/Akuma/Ken

FahadShiekh · 04-19-2002, 08:11 PM

all i have to say is: AKUMA!!! (And Ken, Ryu, Gambit, Wolve]

DX Zero · 04-19-2002, 11:21 PM

*cough* Guiles tight u can do crazy azz combos wit him.. his ariel wave has about 7 hits ending with a flash kick, u can low kick someone then do ur flash kick super, his super sonic boom and link into another super :biggrin: if u play against me Guile does stand a chance..
Ken moves and be easily blocked and countered..
Ryu is kind of slow..
strider can make mistakes and his supers are way too slow..

*cough* try linking ur supers with Guiles sonic boom, then akumas dragon punch, and ending with maximum spider when ur opponent is in the air.. it wastes ur opponent and they have like around 10% of health left..

lobo · 04-20-2002, 03:42 AM

Hey, I have some strepsils left, if that cough is really bugging you!

And i gotta admit, i am quite bad at all the vs games... i've never had the patience to learn all the little combos... i like the more "realistic" (yeah, i know, its pushing the limits of the word, but still) SF3 series.

Even the zero series is ok... but that's plain because i suck at the flashy vs series!
Tho, I suspect i might be a tad better at this game if my lag wasn't so high! i mean, half the time i pull my supers, the opponent has already jumped behind me, and walloped me with something!

Whingey whiney woo!

(Edited by lobo at 11:45 pm on April 20, 2002)

FahadShiekh · 04-20-2002, 01:39 PM

whingey whiney whoo?

ZeroEna · 04-20-2002, 08:56 PM

DX how dare you trash Ken and Ryu! Sure Ken can be blocked but you must use Ken's untimate skill to win trickery.:biggrin: his roll and back flip to name a few not to menchon that their whirlwind kicks can fly right over your head so you can't sweep them and if you block they go even higher! As for Ryu yeah he's kinda slow but he makes up for it with good long and close range attacks. So don't go makeing jugements about characters until you've fought someone who is a master of useing them.

and Lobo what the heck does whingey whiney whoo mean!?

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04-19-2002, 06:40 PM	#4
DX Zero Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,139 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	man storm go crazy u shouldnt mess wit her lol btw i use akuma, spiderman, and guile :biggrin:... __________________ DX was here.

04-19-2002, 08:11 PM	#6
FahadShiekh Member New Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California!!! Posts: 72 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	all i have to say is: AKUMA!!! (And Ken, Ryu, Gambit, Wolve] __________________ Do U Think u have the Skills to take on me?

04-19-2002, 11:21 PM	#7
DX Zero Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,139 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	cough Guiles tight u can do crazy azz combos wit him.. his ariel wave has about 7 hits ending with a flash kick, u can low kick someone then do ur flash kick super, his super sonic boom and link into another super :biggrin: if u play against me Guile does stand a chance.. Ken moves and be easily blocked and countered.. Ryu is kind of slow.. strider can make mistakes and his supers are way too slow.. cough try linking ur supers with Guiles sonic boom, then akumas dragon punch, and ending with maximum spider when ur opponent is in the air.. it wastes ur opponent and they have like around 10% of health left.. __________________ DX was here.

04-20-2002, 01:39 PM	#9
FahadShiekh Member New Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California!!! Posts: 72 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	whingey whiney whoo? __________________ Do U Think u have the Skills to take on me?

04-19-2002, 12:22 PM	#1
Tantum Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 517 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	The Best Players ( of Arcade versions, and early net versions... before the mass lag ) are the best not because they practice all the time, not because of most reasons i hear on this forum. The traits that make people great at fighting games fall into two catagories... #1) hand speed, and reaction time- this is something you cannot gain, only slightly improve, if your reaction sucks the first time you play, you'll never have great reaction time. #2) Strategy- Strategy is something you can improve upon. but for all of you who just dont understand... Anyone with awesome speed and reaction, will beat anyone who knows cool strategies, you know why? cause a person who knows what your doing cant be touched. Handspeed and reaction arent even part of xmvsf online anymore, which is why it has become less interesting, the more lag, the less skill, the less fun for a good fighter. thus all the great players quit, or rarely play. character base ( if you play this guy - then your this style ) Akuma - Strategy / Reaction Spiderman - Hand speed Ken - Reaction / Hand speed / Strategy ( the trademark character of a naturally awesome player ) Ryu - Strategy Cyclops - Strategy / Reaction Wolverine - Reaction / Hand speed to name but a few.... Im not trying to mock this online game, TMy is doing a good job, but a great player isnt a great player in lag, only an average player, as all are. __________________ Tantum is coming.... Feel the Rage.

04-19-2002, 12:38 PM	#2
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	great thinking, but ... i doubt it is just that ! i mean i am good at this game (arcade or saturn version) but in this version cause of lag im not as good, the way it is is simple, when you have time to see your opponent do his shinkuu, you know how to react but when you don't see him do it cause he is actually jumping behind you but you still see him in front. you just dont have the right reaction ! in a way you're right about this ! the other way is ! you can learn how to play, but you'll have to learn on yourself what button you have to push, and at what time ! it is not reaction / speed or anything, it is just timing your hit with the right opponent move ! __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

04-19-2002, 04:45 PM	#3
TarkanX Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 3,043 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Storm: cheapness

04-19-2002, 07:54 PM	#5
TarkanX Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 3,043 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	You use Guile? I would use Guile in a regular SF game, but a VS game with insane dialing combos, and super moves that fill the screen? he doesn't stand a chance, since he has to charge. Akuma is good, but isn't in the high tiers. Guile is a low ranked character in MvC2, and spider man is okay. The best you should use are: Sentinel Spiral Magneto Cable(of course) Storm(cheapness) Cyclops Strider Hiryu(ultima combos) Cammy Ryu/Akuma/Ken

04-20-2002, 03:42 AM	#8
lobo Member New Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 55 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Hey, I have some strepsils left, if that cough is really bugging you! And i gotta admit, i am quite bad at all the vs games... i've never had the patience to learn all the little combos... i like the more "realistic" (yeah, i know, its pushing the limits of the word, but still) SF3 series. Even the zero series is ok... but that's plain because i suck at the flashy vs series! Tho, I suspect i might be a tad better at this game if my lag wasn't so high! i mean, half the time i pull my supers, the opponent has already jumped behind me, and walloped me with something! Whingey whiney woo! (Edited by lobo at 11:45 pm on April 20, 2002)

04-20-2002, 08:56 PM	#10
ZeroEna Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: L2 Posts: 885 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	DX how dare you trash Ken and Ryu! Sure Ken can be blocked but you must use Ken's untimate skill to win trickery.:biggrin: his roll and back flip to name a few not to menchon that their whirlwind kicks can fly right over your head so you can't sweep them and if you block they go even higher! As for Ryu yeah he's kinda slow but he makes up for it with good long and close range attacks. So don't go makeing jugements about characters until you've fought someone who is a master of useing them. and Lobo what the heck does whingey whiney whoo mean!? __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.moonlotus.net/themesong/roadtothewest.jpg[/img:sig_uid] "To those with dreams... let them fly high" "I make my own destiny!!!"