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[blaze985]

lancer, that was a faulty explanation. Perhaps he was sweating because he was in a full suit and rather hot. Simple things like that don't lead to declaring a winner or a loser. Professional debate analysis dudes have split pretty much 50-50 on who won that debate. Thus, you can't say there was a winner when you've 1) said there are no winners in debates 2) have no basis of that OPINION other than the fact that he was sweating and stuttering and 3) even professionals can't come to an exact conclusion.

[dominicankid098]

Ah lord, Here we go. Wasting more time on this topic at 12:40 something in the mourning.

Maybe I have to be more clearer on what I had said because there will always be those few who don't seem to understand.

In cases like this debate, there is nothing you will. It is like "what are you going to win after this debate?" There will always be someone disagreeing and this topic will go on for 30 pages max. I was in an abortion debate before on a different forum and it went to an 80ish page debate untill it finally got closed since everyone had realized that there will be no winner.

When on the other hand, the presidential debate has a crowd to win to choose their destined "leader", which in this case neither bush or Kerry even deserve the President status. but that is just my own opinion. Body language such as sweating, stuttering, etc will just show everyone that the person might be lying or maybe he doesn't have an arguement for it. Making him lesser than the oponent. All my friends who went to that boring Debate Watch Party in University of Miami "where the debate was held" noticed the same things as well. Not only that but there were very few bush followers in the Watch Party. Kinda weird :S

Well anyways since I know this is going to turn out to be another "let's gang up on lancer" topic, I will leave.



Edited By dominicankid098 on 1097297160

[quoteost_uid0="dominicankid098"]Do you really think I care about what Nantuko got to say? I don't care if you consider him your "DEBATE GOD". That is just one person on your side and nothing but a person. Just like his vote on the presidential election isn't any bigger than Bill Gates. I can careless what nantuko got to say. Your little convo to him and using him as a way to have the upper hand is pretty much useless to me. He is nothing but a person.[/quote]
No frikking way...you don't say. I'm nothing but a person? Wow....that's news to me. I never would have guessed that I'm a mere flesh-and-blood homo sapien sapien with an average life expectancy of an average human male. I always thought that I was so much more than just one person....like....a kachima or a higher deity or maybe even a full-blown god. It NEVER dawned on me that I was just a person, no more, no less.....damn, what a life-changing post....

As for being a master debator....what can I say? It's not my fault that in pretty much every debate that I've been involved in, the opposition has had either very little or NO debating skills, sources, quotes or facts to support their claims, and in turn eventually quit the debate in frustration of the fact that they can't break me.

Master debator? No. Master debator as compared to many of the prepubescent twerps that have tried to rise up and tell me that I'm wrong about things that I have far more proof of and material to argue than they do, all because they're incapable of forming their own thoughts and opinions and go only by the heresay of their parents and/or guardians and/or elders? Yes.

I actually disagree with VF on the issue (as he said), and actually am awaiting the return of BG so I can once again publicly debate this issue, among others, on a forum where my voice and sources are not restricted and ignored by numerous conditions. I simply agreed that VF had the upper hand in the debate becuase he came forward with concrete facts and evidence, instead of "he says she says" instances, what advice his parents gave him, etc, etc.

And since when was he ever a great? HAHAHA He is as great as his crappy malarky thing he had going on years ago.

I used the term "great nantuko joe" as a mere joke, considering how I'm one of the older vets in the game and that for some reason, various people used to look up to me and respect what I said.

The only thing I have a problem with is you, and you deciding to go talking smack behind my back. Both about me and Mallarky. Granted, Mallarky is dead, yes, but then again, you stating that I'm only as "great" as a dead forum means that you think nothing more of me than a dead husk ofused-up consciousness unable to think or do anything. Which, by implication, means that you think yourself more highly than me. Which, by my own word of mouth, is a word that I would use, but is banned on the forum...use your brain and figure it out.

Yes, I'm older than 95% of the people from the SFO community, both on these boards and on the now-defunct Battle Grounds. Yes, I have a higher education level than 95% of the people on this community, due to the fact that I'm currently attending college and have already completed one certificate, working towards two degrees and hoping to go to a four-year college to try and get degrees in four different areas, but that's beside the point. The point is that here, on an online forum, I'm an equal to you, you're equal to VF, VF is equal to Karma, Karma is equal to Masta, Masta is equal to KKS, etc, etc. And I therefore don't like hearing about some youngun on a forum making negative comments about me behind my back on a SFO forum. For all intents and purposes, I'm not even supposed to to exist anymore, except in the memories of those who I've considered my "online friends," if such a concept is even truly possible, and certainly shouldn't be brought up in context in either a post proclaiming me as a debate god, or a post talking crap about me and a forum that's been dead for the past three years.

So if either of you two, or ANYONE for that matter, wants to make reference to me in such a way that you would be talking down about me without me knowing, then be a man about it and call me out, so it doesn't seem like you're just some damn coward talking about someone behind their back.

[dominicankid098]

And you think I had no idea that you were veiwing this topic? I was hoping you would reply.

So if either of you two, or ANYONE for that matter, wants to make reference to me in such a way that you would be talking down about me without me knowing, then be a man about it and call me out, so it doesn't seem like you're just some damn coward talking about someone behind their back.

*Sigh* One of the things that I just simply can't stand about the internet is when someone says dumb things like "be a man and call me out". LMAO Please child you think I am scared of someone on the internet? Calling me a coward and especially you not knowing even half of who I am. I seriously knew for a fact that you would be posting here so how would that make me a coward?

Which, by my own word of mouth, is a word that I would use, but is banned on the forum...use your brain and figure it out.

For someone who says he is smarter than 95% of the members in sfo, which is just an opinion of course to his own cocky self, trying to use a cuss word in the internet wouldn't sound that intelligent now would it?

[quoteost_uid0="dominicankid098"]*Sigh* One of the things that I just simply can't stand about the internet is when someone says dumb things like "be a man and call me out". LMAO Please child you think I am scared of someone on the internet? Calling me a coward and especially you not knowing even half of who I am. I seriously knew for a fact that you would be posting here so how would that make me a coward?[/quote]
Oooookay....deep breath.....

First off, I'm not meaning it in a threatening way....apparently in today's teenage society, everything anyone says apparently has a violent connotation. When I say "call me out," I'm referring to the fact that if someone's talking negatively of me, I'd like to know about it, so I have a chance to defend myself.

I actually wouldn't have posted here had you not made those comments.

Second off....since when does a seventeen year-old get off calling someone four years his senior a child? Unless someone has offended me directly, I tend to show everyone that I interact with a certain level of respect, and would appreciate the same level of respect in return. In my post, I did not refer to you as a lesser individual or as a "child," (on the contrary I did quite the opposite, rebuking previous claims of being "great" and instead placing myself on the same tier as everyone else) and therefore do not deserve that type of disrespect.

Now, had I said something along the lines of "Listen up son you talk poop and i'll kill you," then you'd have grounds to make such a statement as you did in the above quote. but becuase I did not, nor showing any inclination of the "threat of violence" over an online forum, such a statement coming from one such as yourself is....how should I say....out of line.

Actually, the worst I did was call you a coward, and in that I may have been rather hasty in my selection of vocabulary. Granted, as you say, I indeed do not know "half of who [you are]," and therefore making the coward remark misplaced, but by the same token, you know nothing about me. Furthermore, I know not why you would go out of your way to actually attempt to draw me out and get me to post here......to what ends would this help you attain?

For someone who says he is smarter than 95% of the members in sfo, which is just an opinion of course to his own cocky self, trying to use a cuss word in the internet wouldn't sound that intelligent now would it?

Actually, my claim to being smarter than a percentage of the members of SFO is not a mere opinion to my own "cocky self," but is a simple fact: as I am older than a vast majority of the posters, and living in a state with a high-ranked education level, as well as being a B student in college. Back when I used to post here, I determined that the vast majority of the posters were between the ages of ten and sixteen, which would place them on an education tier many levels lower than my own, therefore directly showing that I have many more years of education, have gathered more knowledge and information than the majority. So no, it's not a testament to my cockiness, nor some type of brag remark, but a simple statement of facts. I do realize that there are people that post who are indeed my peers, and others who are even older than I, and I know and respect that they have acquired more knowledge than I, and do not attest this knowledge as being "an opinion to their cocky selves."

but to the point, why would using a cuss word be unintelligent? It's a simple fact: people swear. My dad swears. My professor swears. My boss swears. The president swears. Basically, I referred to the swear but didn't type it because the language filter would have edited or removed it, and because I'm human, not a robot, and therefore tend to use phases such as the one I referred to. Whether it be "that's a load of bulls-hit" or "that's a bunch of baloney," the meaning is the same. Just like saying "heck" instead of "hell," or "fudge" instead of "flip," the meaning is the same, so why not say it anyway?

Anyway, in order to avoid further prolonged posting sessions, I'd just like to end with this: In an above quote, you said you were not a coward because you knew that I would be posting here in response to what you said. My question is that instead of drawing me here using some halfassed diss comparing me to a nonexistent message board in order to get me to post here, why not just IM me on aol or something and be like "dude, post in this topic" or something? Granted, I see you were probably drawn to that by Vfusing me as reference and apparently taking what I said about the topic as some sort of concrete stamp of approval or the word of god, but in that case, why not just tell him to stfuinstead of dragging my name further into it?

Basically, what I'm asking is to simply drop any and all reference to myself or the sometimes reference of me being a master debator...if you'd like me to post a comment or to look over a debate topic, then just IM me and if i'm interested, I'll participate.

This goes to Virtual Fighter too.....I was unaware you'd actually post that little convo on the boards to try and further your foothold in the debate....instead, you should have simply asked me to participate...and I may have. Simple as that.

Anyways, I've got some other things to attend to that were put aside for a few minutes while these posts were written. Don't take my word as anything unless I directly posted it here (so that post by VF with the aim convo between me and him holds about the same amount of relevance to the topic as one of the Year 2000 doomsday seers. Go on with the debate.....sorry it ended up getting sidetracked....I'll abstain from posting unless someone actually asks me to participate in the debate at large.....

NJ

PS: dominicankid, if youd' like to discuss this little matter with me further, please, i ask you to do so privately on the forum of either an instant messenger or private messages on the forum. Thanks )



Edited By Shauku on 1097301031

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[quoteost_uid0="Saijin_Ryu"]^^ obviously, you lot know nothing of this subject, and it can be VERY personal to some people..

oh and shhhh..[/quote]
very personal? nobody was saying if it was VERY personal or not you idiot it is a debate about abortion so type up or shut the fcuk up.

[Saijin_Ryu]

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[Virtual Fighter]

every topic could be "personal" to someone.

seems to me there are three kinds of people in sfo:

those who are for something, those who are against, and those who "take a stand" and not say anything, even try to stop people from debating.


i tihnk this topic has been depleated of its natural interest. it has resulted in flaiming, thanks to lancerPX.

so, topic closed.