Charlie & Guile - Un-Official Discussion

Selvin · 02-18-2002, 02:34 PM

Okay, I am just opening up something where you can talk about anything and everything about Charlie & Guile.

TarkanX · 02-18-2002, 02:38 PM

Guile doesnt have the age in SFA3 like he used to in SF2.

Capcom made Guile suck on purpose in Alpha 3....

Charlie has 20/20 vision.

Warmor · 02-18-2002, 02:52 PM

Guiles voice is deeper.

Guild, Charlie, Shadow, and Remy are all basically the same thing as far as I'm concerned.

Selvin · 02-18-2002, 03:10 PM

TarkanX: I have actually have used a SF theory to prove that Charlie came to the SF universe before Guile. Now even though Guile debuted in SF2 and Guile debuted in SFA2 and SFA2 was released after SF2, we all know that Alpha means first, that is the first proof. The second proof is that Guile was a secret character in SFA3 meaning he came after. Now to clear things up I believe there was only 3 SF tourny's, but 1 of them was wrigged. Street Fighter was the first tourny and the Alpha series was made to fill in caps. Street Fighter 2 was made making it the second tournament. Street Fighter 3 was the third, but second impact and 3rd strike were made to also fill some caps. Now I believe that SF3 was wrigged for many reasons. The first is pretty confusing even for me. I have asked many, 'Who is the host of SF3', no one can answer. They told be second impact and 3rd strike, but not the first. The second thing that makes me think it is wrigged the fact that Alex is the SF champ and Ken is the US champ. Now Street Fighter in a world tournament. Now Alex is born in the US so how did Ken beat him in the US division, but not face Ryu in the finals. The third thing is Yun, why is a crime lord. Forth was Urien, Gill, Twelve, and Necro. Gill and Urien hated each other and made Twelve and Necro which in my opinion dis-qualifies them. Now SFA1, SFA2, SFA3 were made to show some matches that didn't happen in SF1. An example is this: Guile was secret in SFA3. I believe that the only way someone is secret is if they were eliminated in the qualifies or they were DQed. Charlie defeated Guile in the qualifies and therefore is a scret. Evil Ryu was DQed, because he killed people. Sorry for the long post, but it is a good read.

Selvin · 02-18-2002, 03:12 PM

Warmor: I disagree with you, because Guile has possibly the weirdest block in the game, at least the other 2 look normal and also, Remy's attack differ from there's, because Remy's Special Attack with the Kick (Forgot name), goes 180 degrees up while Charlie and Guile have a 45 degree angle.

Warmor · 02-18-2002, 03:20 PM

That was a pretty good read, I do know and believe in the SF world that Charlie came first, but in the Real world Guile was shown first.

What I mean, I'm not technical, all 3 have sonic booms (or in remy's case it looks like it) and a flash kick attack, thus, they are basically the same type of fighter. Remy even has that double low hard kick I love

princevegetam · 02-18-2002, 03:30 PM

you know guys, i never actually seen what charlie looks like before, but i've seen guile. i've watched episodes of super streetfighter 2v and in the series, charlie is killed by Bison. He wears glasses and has a dark coloured hair, is this true?

Razz · 02-18-2002, 03:55 PM

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Quote: from Selvin on 6:10 pm on Feb. 18, 2002
TarkanX: I have actually have used a SF theory to prove that Charlie came to the SF universe before Guile. Now even though Guile debuted in SF2 and Guile debuted in SFA2 and SFA2 was released after SF2, we all know that Alpha means first, that is the first proof. The second proof is that Guile was a secret character in SFA3 meaning he came after. Now to clear things up I believe there was only 3 SF tourny's, but 1 of them was wrigged. Street Fighter was the first tourny and the Alpha series was made to fill in caps. Street Fighter 2 was made making it the second tournament. Street Fighter 3 was the third, but second impact and 3rd strike were made to also fill some caps. Now I believe that SF3 was wrigged for many reasons. The first is pretty confusing even for me. I have asked many, 'Who is the host of SF3', no one can answer. They told be second impact and 3rd strike, but not the first. The second thing that makes me think it is wrigged the fact that Alex is the SF champ and Ken is the US champ. Now Street Fighter in a world tournament. Now Alex is born in the US so how did Ken beat him in the US division, but not face Ryu in the finals. The third thing is Yun, why is a crime lord. Forth was Urien, Gill, Twelve, and Necro. Gill and Urien hated each other and made Twelve and Necro which in my opinion dis-qualifies them. Now SFA1, SFA2, SFA3 were made to show some matches that didn't happen in SF1. An example is this: Guile was secret in SFA3. I believe that the only way someone is secret is if they were eliminated in the qualifies or they were DQed. Charlie defeated Guile in the qualifies and therefore is a scret. Evil Ryu was DQed, because he killed people. Sorry for the long post, but it is a good read.

HOLY ####!!
that was... long.
I think that Charlie is just a cheap rip off of Guile.

TarkanX · 02-18-2002, 03:58 PM

TarkanX: I have actually have used a SF theory to prove that Charlie came to the SF universe before Guile.

already know that...

Now even though Guile debuted in SF2 and Guile debuted in SFA2 and SFA2 was released after SF2, we all know that Alpha means first, that is the first proof.

I think you mean charlie for A2, and yeah, i know

The second proof is that Guile was a secret character in SFA3 meaning he came after. Now to clear things up I believe there was only 3 SF tourny's, but 1 of them was wrigged.

alpha isnt a tournament, and Ill tell you why

Street Fighter was the first tourny and the Alpha series was made to fill in caps. Street Fighter 2 was made making it the second tournament. Street Fighter 3 was the third, but second impact and 3rd strike were made to also fill some caps. Now I believe that SF3 was wrigged for many reasons. The first is pretty confusing even for me. I have asked many, 'Who is the host of SF3', no one can answer. They told be second impact and 3rd strike, but not the first.

is only one tournament, that tournament is second impact, new generation is over ridden by second impact, and third strike is like what happened after the tournament

The second thing that makes me think it is wrigged the fact that Alex is the SF champ and Ken is the US champ. Now Street Fighter in a world tournament. Now Alex is born in the US so how did Ken beat him in the US division, but not face Ryu in the finals.

simple, and capcom stated this
Ken beat Sean
Ryu beat Hugo
Ryu lost to Oro
Oro didnt show up for his final tourney match against Alex
[/b]Alex advances to fight Gill by DQ of Oro[/b]
Gill holds back against Alex
{b]Alex wins tourney[/b]

some stuff arent said, but they can give you clues

The third thing is Yun, why is a crime lord. Forth was Urien, Gill, Twelve, and Necro. Gill and Urien hated each other and made Twelve and Necro which in my opinion dis-qualifies them.

Urien was the one who made twelve and Necro, not Gill, Gill wants to save the worrld, Urien is evil.

Now SFA1, SFA2, SFA3 were made to show some matches that didn't happen in SF1. An example is this: Guile was secret in SFA3. I believe that the only way someone is secret is if they were eliminated in the qualifies or they were DQed.

A1 doesnt count, its overridden by A2, so everything that was in A1 is not existence

Charlie defeated Guile in the qualifies and therefore is a scret. Evil Ryu was DQed, because he killed people. Sorry for the long post, but it is a good read.

the alpha series isnt a tournament, A2 is basically them going their own ways trying to find fighters

Alpha 3 is "some" people trying to stop Bison, or again like A2, them going their own ways.

TarkanX · 02-18-2002, 04:01 PM

Okay, the reason why Alpha isnt a tournament is because since A1 is overridden by alpha 2, alpha 2 is just the characters going their own way, and A3 is trying to stop Bison, there are only 3 SF tournaments as of right now

SF1
SF2
SF3

well we'll have to wait till SF4 comes out to find out mucnh more....

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02-18-2002, 02:34 PM	#1
Selvin Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 3,349 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Okay, I am just opening up something where you can talk about anything and everything about Charlie & Guile. __________________ http://free.7host02.com/astro75/signatureSelvin2.gif

02-18-2002, 02:52 PM	#3
Warmor Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Project Z Posts: 1,821 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Guiles voice is deeper. Guild, Charlie, Shadow, and Remy are all basically the same thing as far as I'm concerned. __________________ If I don't respond to any IM's, I'm at work, so josh.maxwell@brinker.com, and I can e-mail you back almost immediatly. [img:sig_uid]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/warmor/warmorsig1.gif[/img:sig_uid] Created by: TremulantX

02-18-2002, 03:10 PM	#4
Selvin Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 3,349 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	TarkanX: I have actually have used a SF theory to prove that Charlie came to the SF universe before Guile. Now even though Guile debuted in SF2 and Guile debuted in SFA2 and SFA2 was released after SF2, we all know that Alpha means first, that is the first proof. The second proof is that Guile was a secret character in SFA3 meaning he came after. Now to clear things up I believe there was only 3 SF tourny's, but 1 of them was wrigged. Street Fighter was the first tourny and the Alpha series was made to fill in caps. Street Fighter 2 was made making it the second tournament. Street Fighter 3 was the third, but second impact and 3rd strike were made to also fill some caps. Now I believe that SF3 was wrigged for many reasons. The first is pretty confusing even for me. I have asked many, 'Who is the host of SF3', no one can answer. They told be second impact and 3rd strike, but not the first. The second thing that makes me think it is wrigged the fact that Alex is the SF champ and Ken is the US champ. Now Street Fighter in a world tournament. Now Alex is born in the US so how did Ken beat him in the US division, but not face Ryu in the finals. The third thing is Yun, why is a crime lord. Forth was Urien, Gill, Twelve, and Necro. Gill and Urien hated each other and made Twelve and Necro which in my opinion dis-qualifies them. Now SFA1, SFA2, SFA3 were made to show some matches that didn't happen in SF1. An example is this: Guile was secret in SFA3. I believe that the only way someone is secret is if they were eliminated in the qualifies or they were DQed. Charlie defeated Guile in the qualifies and therefore is a scret. Evil Ryu was DQed, because he killed people. Sorry for the long post, but it is a good read. __________________ http://free.7host02.com/astro75/signatureSelvin2.gif

02-18-2002, 03:12 PM	#5
Selvin Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 3,349 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Warmor: I disagree with you, because Guile has possibly the weirdest block in the game, at least the other 2 look normal and also, Remy's attack differ from there's, because Remy's Special Attack with the Kick (Forgot name), goes 180 degrees up while Charlie and Guile have a 45 degree angle. __________________ http://free.7host02.com/astro75/signatureSelvin2.gif

02-18-2002, 02:38 PM	#2
TarkanX Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 3,043 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Guile doesnt have the age in SFA3 like he used to in SF2. Capcom made Guile suck on purpose in Alpha 3.... Charlie has 20/20 vision.

02-18-2002, 03:20 PM	#6
Warmor Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Project Z Posts: 1,821 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	That was a pretty good read, I do know and believe in the SF world that Charlie came first, but in the Real world Guile was shown first. What I mean, I'm not technical, all 3 have sonic booms (or in remy's case it looks like it) and a flash kick attack, thus, they are basically the same type of fighter. Remy even has that double low hard kick I love __________________ If I don't respond to any IM's, I'm at work, so josh.maxwell@brinker.com, and I can e-mail you back almost immediatly. [img:sig_uid]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/warmor/warmorsig1.gif[/img:sig_uid] Created by: TremulantX

02-18-2002, 03:30 PM	#7
princevegetam Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 1,690 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	you know guys, i never actually seen what charlie looks like before, but i've seen guile. i've watched episodes of super streetfighter 2v and in the series, charlie is killed by Bison. He wears glasses and has a dark coloured hair, is this true? __________________ [quote:sig_uid]the strong survive, and the weak just die...[/quote:sig_uid] http://www.boomspeed.com/ssjvegetam/Iori2.jpg

02-18-2002, 03:58 PM	#9
TarkanX Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 3,043 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	TarkanX: I have actually have used a SF theory to prove that Charlie came to the SF universe before Guile. already know that... Now even though Guile debuted in SF2 and Guile debuted in SFA2 and SFA2 was released after SF2, we all know that Alpha means first, that is the first proof. I think you mean charlie for A2, and yeah, i know The second proof is that Guile was a secret character in SFA3 meaning he came after. Now to clear things up I believe there was only 3 SF tourny's, but 1 of them was wrigged. alpha isnt a tournament, and Ill tell you why Street Fighter was the first tourny and the Alpha series was made to fill in caps. Street Fighter 2 was made making it the second tournament. Street Fighter 3 was the third, but second impact and 3rd strike were made to also fill some caps. Now I believe that SF3 was wrigged for many reasons. The first is pretty confusing even for me. I have asked many, 'Who is the host of SF3', no one can answer. They told be second impact and 3rd strike, but not the first. is only one tournament, that tournament is second impact, new generation is over ridden by second impact, and third strike is like what happened after the tournament The second thing that makes me think it is wrigged the fact that Alex is the SF champ and Ken is the US champ. Now Street Fighter in a world tournament. Now Alex is born in the US so how did Ken beat him in the US division, but not face Ryu in the finals. simple, and capcom stated this Ken beat Sean Ryu beat Hugo Ryu lost to Oro Oro didnt show up for his final tourney match against Alex [/b]Alex advances to fight Gill by DQ of Oro[/b] Gill holds back against Alex {b]Alex wins tourney[/b] some stuff arent said, but they can give you clues The third thing is Yun, why is a crime lord. Forth was Urien, Gill, Twelve, and Necro. Gill and Urien hated each other and made Twelve and Necro which in my opinion dis-qualifies them. Urien was the one who made twelve and Necro, not Gill, Gill wants to save the worrld, Urien is evil. Now SFA1, SFA2, SFA3 were made to show some matches that didn't happen in SF1. An example is this: Guile was secret in SFA3. I believe that the only way someone is secret is if they were eliminated in the qualifies or they were DQed. A1 doesnt count, its overridden by A2, so everything that was in A1 is not existence Charlie defeated Guile in the qualifies and therefore is a scret. Evil Ryu was DQed, because he killed people. Sorry for the long post, but it is a good read. the alpha series isnt a tournament, A2 is basically them going their own ways trying to find fighters Alpha 3 is "some" people trying to stop Bison, or again like A2, them going their own ways.

02-18-2002, 04:01 PM	#10
TarkanX Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 3,043 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Okay, the reason why Alpha isnt a tournament is because since A1 is overridden by alpha 2, alpha 2 is just the characters going their own way, and A3 is trying to stop Bison, there are only 3 SF tournaments as of right now SF1 SF2 SF3 well we'll have to wait till SF4 comes out to find out mucnh more....