You asked for it TMyApp, and im giving it to you - An avi of one of my matches.

Zing79 · 11-22-2001, 11:03 PM

Right click on this link and save target as. You'll need the newest DivX codec to view it.

Zing79 Match

Included here also are the major pts I want you to take note of.

I played the game in a 380x220 window (default size), with no background, no music, and the lag compensation set to medium.

However...what u see isn't completely at the right speed. The prog Im using is a recourse hog...I checked the fps later, and when the prog is on, its runs at around 28 fps.

And on a final note, you should also know that this is actually the best case senario. This fight represent the best lag I have experienced with the new version. What is really going on most of the time is much worse.

Here goes

Round 1.

At 93 seconds...huge flash of white and hes teleported backwards

AT 89 seconds...I super jump, and I SHOULD land in behind him, but he teleports so that now Im in front of him...as you keep going, you can see im pressing back to block, yet I still get hit with the super hurricane

At 83 seconds...his super fireball is cut short, and I waste my helper.

AT 70 seconds...I do a super fireball, no damage, and then Im blasted by a super fireball from him (which i can't block since im stuck in the animation for my super fireball...this is going to be a recurring theme)

AT 65 seconds...he goes from doing an air fireball STRAIGHT into a hurricane without even touching the ground (which I cannot block since im still in the fireball animation)

K.O. round over.

Round 2

AT 93 seconds...I do a super fireball, if you freeze it you can see he teleports from being in its path, and actually having it engulf him to being in the air behind me.

At 91 seconds...Im sitting behind him as hes doing a fireball IN THE MIDDLE of the screen, I do a roundhouse kick, he teleports through and ends up behind me at the end of the screen.

At 88 seconds...I do a super fireball...it does no damage, and after the sync screen, im about to get blasted with one myself! (which I can not block since Im still in my super fireball animation)

At 82 seconds...another super fireball, and nothing.
He teleports behind me, and in the next frame has teleported in front of me

At 78...the sync lost message comes up...when that happens all my buttons cease to function, and im helpless. And as you can see his super hurricane does damage as a result

From 70 seconds to 64 seconds...I throw everything but the kitchen sink at him, There are enough moves connecting to take out 50% of his power, and hes teleporting everywhere, all the while 3/4 of what I do isn't registering!

At 60 seconds...another super..and yet again, nothing. He teleports forward and blasts me with a super fireball of his own (which I can't block since Im stuck in the animation for my super fireball)

I get smoked..end of round, and end of match.

Believe it or not, this actually IS one of the best matches Ive had in terms of lag.

(Edited by Zing79 at 4:37 am on Nov. 23, 2001)

RAMROD · 11-23-2001, 03:07 AM

sounds like a regular game for me

nosoul4evr · 11-23-2001, 05:12 AM

i cant veiw the file but....

i hope thats the clip of me kickin ya butt last night :biggrin: J/K!
boy i hope your lagg clears up

talk to Lord he know a trick to do with your modem...i dont know if it will work for you,since your hosting.

(Edited by nosoul4evr at 8:18 am on Nov. 23, 2001)

Zing79 · 11-23-2001, 08:42 AM

RAMROD...
why do you insist on following me around with your stupidity?

Are you not the same muth**fu**er who has posted repeatedly about how this version is much better for?

Are you not the same muth**fu**er who has posted repeatedly that you had these problems with the old version?

But yet...NOW...IN HERE...
you tell me that its a regular game for you...

dude shut the fu** up, you are serioulsy starting to piss me off.

Why dont you stick to posts that don't involve your dumb ass.

TMyApp · 11-23-2001, 08:55 AM

can't play the avi... "no suitable decompressor could be found" (#### media player)

Zing79 · 11-23-2001, 09:17 AM

That would be why I said you needed the newest DivX codec :biggrin:
the exact one is DivX MPEG-4 Codec (4.0 a50)

no offence but Im not posting a 12 meg file

Lordcyris · 11-23-2001, 01:36 PM

hmm i will download it and take a look tmy is u need that div 4 crap i think i got it

Lordcyris · 11-23-2001, 02:05 PM

well i looked at the avi and i have an idea of what is happening but there is information about this game i cannot reveal to ppl i was asked to obey this request but i will talk to tmy about this zing and maybe he can explain it you
if i am correct then its just a funny thing hehe

SSJKarma · 11-23-2001, 02:15 PM

even with the bug you still manage too survive this long ! =;-DD so that must mean you're not bad at it !

TMyApp · 11-23-2001, 10:21 PM

yeah, there is quite a bit of bullshit happening in that demo

the connection between u and the other guy is lagged (despite the ping, which was under 200 @ one point) .. a good indication of that is the fact that the game stops and tries to regain the sync...

some questions though... i can tell that "slow connection" mode wasn't on.. but what about lag compensation... what was it set @ on u'r end ??

there are a number of times u talk about "teleporting".. but on the video.. i can see the guy doing a super jump, and goin over u'r head (via the "p2" arrow/icon)...(@least for most of them)

the only (major) problem that i see there is that the hyper moves just dont want to connect for some reason....(well, not "some reason" .. its due to lag.. 100% on that) ... closer to the end of the match, u can zing throw a shinkuu... u see it connect... then, a second later the guy is in the air and he lands behind him (there was lag.. so, on yagatog's end he avoided the hyper move)

as for gameplay, i saw some VERY nice moves from both players... i can analize that video for another hour or so :biggrin:

i can see how anoying it must be for u though (zing) ... there is no quick fix for this, but sure as #### there is one

priority number one is to create a better prediction and sync for the hyper moves (i have some ideas in mind)... it would be nice if u could record a few more low ping games (1 or 2).. and if anyone else wants to do the same, that be great :biggrin: .. u guys have no idea how much these things help, and how fast i can fix the bugs after seein' em :biggrin:

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11-22-2001, 11:03 PM	#1
Zing79 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 632 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Right click on this link and save target as. You'll need the newest DivX codec to view it. Zing79 Match Included here also are the major pts I want you to take note of. I played the game in a 380x220 window (default size), with no background, no music, and the lag compensation set to medium. However...what u see isn't completely at the right speed. The prog Im using is a recourse hog...I checked the fps later, and when the prog is on, its runs at around 28 fps. And on a final note, you should also know that this is actually the best case senario. This fight represent the best lag I have experienced with the new version. What is really going on most of the time is much worse. Here goes Round 1. At 93 seconds...huge flash of white and hes teleported backwards AT 89 seconds...I super jump, and I SHOULD land in behind him, but he teleports so that now Im in front of him...as you keep going, you can see im pressing back to block, yet I still get hit with the super hurricane At 83 seconds...his super fireball is cut short, and I waste my helper. AT 70 seconds...I do a super fireball, no damage, and then Im blasted by a super fireball from him (which i can't block since im stuck in the animation for my super fireball...this is going to be a recurring theme) AT 65 seconds...he goes from doing an air fireball STRAIGHT into a hurricane without even touching the ground (which I cannot block since im still in the fireball animation) K.O. round over. Round 2 AT 93 seconds...I do a super fireball, if you freeze it you can see he teleports from being in its path, and actually having it engulf him to being in the air behind me. At 91 seconds...Im sitting behind him as hes doing a fireball IN THE MIDDLE of the screen, I do a roundhouse kick, he teleports through and ends up behind me at the end of the screen. At 88 seconds...I do a super fireball...it does no damage, and after the sync screen, im about to get blasted with one myself! (which I can not block since Im still in my super fireball animation) At 82 seconds...another super fireball, and nothing. He teleports behind me, and in the next frame has teleported in front of me At 78...the sync lost message comes up...when that happens all my buttons cease to function, and im helpless. And as you can see his super hurricane does damage as a result From 70 seconds to 64 seconds...I throw everything but the kitchen sink at him, There are enough moves connecting to take out 50% of his power, and hes teleporting everywhere, all the while 3/4 of what I do isn't registering! At 60 seconds...another super..and yet again, nothing. He teleports forward and blasts me with a super fireball of his own (which I can't block since Im stuck in the animation for my super fireball) I get smoked..end of round, and end of match. Believe it or not, this actually IS one of the best matches Ive had in terms of lag. (Edited by Zing79 at 4:37 am on Nov. 23, 2001) __________________ <center> WHAM! gaming Canada's Home Page for Interactive Entertainment</center>

11-23-2001, 05:12 AM	#3
nosoul4evr Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,343 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	i cant veiw the file but.... i hope thats the clip of me kickin ya butt last night :biggrin: J/K! boy i hope your lagg clears up talk to Lord he know a trick to do with your modem...i dont know if it will work for you,since your hosting. (Edited by nosoul4evr at 8:18 am on Nov. 23, 2001) __________________ Helping to build a better player one beginer at a time http://nosoul4evr.cyberfuturism.com [img:sig_uid]http://nosoul4evr.cyberfuturism.com/images/xf.gif[/img:sig_uid]

11-23-2001, 08:42 AM	#4
Zing79 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 632 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	RAMROD... why do you insist on following me around with your stupidity? Are you not the same muthfuer who has posted repeatedly about how this version is much better for? Are you not the same muthfuer who has posted repeatedly that you had these problems with the old version? But yet...NOW...IN HERE... you tell me that its a regular game for you... dude shut the fu** up, you are serioulsy starting to piss me off. Why dont you stick to posts that don't involve your dumb ass. __________________ <center> WHAM! gaming Canada's Home Page for Interactive Entertainment</center>

11-23-2001, 09:17 AM	#6
Zing79 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 632 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	That would be why I said you needed the newest DivX codec :biggrin: the exact one is DivX MPEG-4 Codec (4.0 a50) no offence but Im not posting a 12 meg file __________________ <center> WHAM! gaming Canada's Home Page for Interactive Entertainment</center>

11-23-2001, 03:07 AM	#2
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11-23-2001, 08:55 AM	#5
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11-23-2001, 01:36 PM	#7
Lordcyris Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: PA Posts: 482 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	hmm i will download it and take a look tmy is u need that div 4 crap i think i got it __________________ http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Lordcy...ordcyrispr.gif Ignorance is bliss, that explains all the Happy MoFo's out there

11-23-2001, 02:05 PM	#8
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11-23-2001, 02:15 PM	#9
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11-23-2001, 10:21 PM	#10
TMyApp Administrator Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,957 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	yeah, there is quite a bit of bullshit happening in that demo the connection between u and the other guy is lagged (despite the ping, which was under 200 @ one point) .. a good indication of that is the fact that the game stops and tries to regain the sync... some questions though... i can tell that "slow connection" mode wasn't on.. but what about lag compensation... what was it set @ on u'r end ?? there are a number of times u talk about "teleporting".. but on the video.. i can see the guy doing a super jump, and goin over u'r head (via the "p2" arrow/icon)...(@least for most of them) the only (major) problem that i see there is that the hyper moves just dont want to connect for some reason....(well, not "some reason" .. its due to lag.. 100% on that) ... closer to the end of the match, u can zing throw a shinkuu... u see it connect... then, a second later the guy is in the air and he lands behind him (there was lag.. so, on yagatog's end he avoided the hyper move) as for gameplay, i saw some VERY nice moves from both players... i can analize that video for another hour or so :biggrin: i can see how anoying it must be for u though (zing) ... there is no quick fix for this, but sure as #### there is one priority number one is to create a better prediction and sync for the hyper moves (i have some ideas in mind)... it would be nice if u could record a few more low ping games (1 or 2).. and if anyone else wants to do the same, that be great :biggrin: .. u guys have no idea how much these things help, and how fast i can fix the bugs after seein' em :biggrin: