No damage in the game explained - well at least its what *I* think :)

Zing79 · 11-12-2001, 01:36 AM

Ever have this happen during the game?
you throw 3 supers and it does NO damage?

its the magical word..
LAG :biggrin:
*But* I think theres also a new culprit at work here...its something to do with the animation.

let me explain what I think is going on with some in game examples

ever notice that sometimes you'll kick a guy and it'll look like hes halfway across the screen, only to reappear in front of you?

When you kick him, your end of the game fullly animates what it thinks should be happening. However, because the information being sent isn't instantaneous, you havent received whats going on in his version of the game yet. Which means sometimes the guy will look like hes right in front of you when in reality, after your animnation has finished, hes moved somewhere else. The info on where he is and what hes doing just hasnt arrived on your comp yet, or isn't processed until after your animation has finished.

It works exactly the same with the supers..."your game" thinks he's been hit, when in reality he's somewhere else. Once the animation for the super is over the response from his connection kicks in, and surprise, hes had no damage taken away..

Your biggest give away that the timing between u 2 is off, is if it looks like hes just standing there doing nothing...If your playing a good player that would never happen!

Just remember this little nugget of info. If you do something (it can be anything), and none of his power is getting drained, WATCH OUT, because hes not where you think he is, or what you see isn't whats really happening.

If this happens, your best bet is to super jump and let the game catch up to. Once that happens you can get a reading on where he actually is, or what hes doing.

btw...this happens to BOTH ppl at the same time, so its not like one of you is getting the shaft...You both have to put up with it...

This is just my little working theory, you'll have to get the definitive word from TMyApp himself. :biggrin:

TarkanX · 11-12-2001, 05:55 AM

Interesting theory, I fought cyris once, and he wasn't moving, and I beat him, to my dismay, he was on the phone

TMyApp · 11-12-2001, 09:13 AM

well, the animation is not the problem... it is still our old friend Lag

yes.. the reason why u see one thing, and then a nother a second later is because u dont have the latest packets from the other player... but, the game tries to do its best in predicting the actions (which is #### hard)... but, the only reason u'r not gettin that much needed packet(s) is due to a poor connection... and/or .. (u guessed it) .. Lag

u'r best bet is to set "lag compensation" to "high" to keep the buffer nice and small... and, wait/hope that we'll get that "player ping" feature installed soon (so that u can @least pick the players with less lag) :biggrin:

Elena · 11-12-2001, 03:35 PM

It happen to me plenty of times i little to many

xUMJx · 11-13-2001, 04:48 AM

....I'M GETTING SICK OF THE #### FACES TMY! I DON'T GIVE A SHIT IF YOUR THE MODERATOR IT'S JUST #### ANNOYING! NO ONE, I MEAN NO ONE SHOULD USE THAT MANY FACES! ARGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

RagingDemon3K · 11-13-2001, 05:13 AM

Where is Selvin smashin lag when you need him??

AXE · 11-13-2001, 08:24 AM

well it's wen you do to meny super's in one game i fond that out me self it's like wen i did a shinku it like never takes away no life it dose that on sfa2 we you fight m.bison i sucks

<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>tmy you need to fix this thing</span>

Warmor · 11-13-2001, 07:09 PM

The REAL problem is that you people play with your #### clothes on, and that lags it up and screws with the coding!

TMY!!! If you coded the game naked, think of how much better it would all run, and I bet you could do a new character ever 4 days if you did it nude....

And UMJ, since you are my best buddy (not really) I got this for you:
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

11-14-2001, 02:09 PM

uhh....warmor?so u r saying that we should play with woverine and ryu with their dicks hanging out?!think before u say things otherwise i'm gonna start callin u

Shadow Snake · 11-14-2001, 02:17 PM

Ummm.....i guess so?

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11-12-2001, 01:36 AM	#1
Zing79 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 632 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Ever have this happen during the game? you throw 3 supers and it does NO damage? its the magical word.. LAG :biggrin: But I think theres also a new culprit at work here...its something to do with the animation. let me explain what I think is going on with some in game examples ever notice that sometimes you'll kick a guy and it'll look like hes halfway across the screen, only to reappear in front of you? When you kick him, your end of the game fullly animates what it thinks should be happening. However, because the information being sent isn't instantaneous, you havent received whats going on in his version of the game yet. Which means sometimes the guy will look like hes right in front of you when in reality, after your animnation has finished, hes moved somewhere else. The info on where he is and what hes doing just hasnt arrived on your comp yet, or isn't processed until after your animation has finished. It works exactly the same with the supers..."your game" thinks he's been hit, when in reality he's somewhere else. Once the animation for the super is over the response from his connection kicks in, and surprise, hes had no damage taken away.. Your biggest give away that the timing between u 2 is off, is if it looks like hes just standing there doing nothing...If your playing a good player that would never happen! Just remember this little nugget of info. If you do something (it can be anything), and none of his power is getting drained, WATCH OUT, because hes not where you think he is, or what you see isn't whats really happening. If this happens, your best bet is to super jump and let the game catch up to. Once that happens you can get a reading on where he actually is, or what hes doing. btw...this happens to BOTH ppl at the same time, so its not like one of you is getting the shaft...You both have to put up with it... This is just my little working theory, you'll have to get the definitive word from TMyApp himself. :biggrin: __________________ <center> WHAM! gaming Canada's Home Page for Interactive Entertainment</center>

11-12-2001, 03:35 PM	#4
Elena Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In my messy room Posts: 3,253 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	It happen to me plenty of times i little to many __________________ I WAS HERE FURST! ^-^

11-13-2001, 04:48 AM	#5
xUMJx Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Darkness Posts: 188 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	....I'M GETTING SICK OF THE #### FACES TMY! I DON'T GIVE A SHIT IF YOUR THE MODERATOR IT'S JUST #### ANNOYING! NO ONE, I MEAN NO ONE SHOULD USE THAT MANY FACES! ARGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! __________________ "When I write your name down on my deathlist hell makes you a reservation." HIGH POWERED ORIGINAL!!!

11-13-2001, 05:13 AM	#6
RagingDemon3K Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 204 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Where is Selvin smashin lag when you need him?? __________________ SHUN GOKU SATSU!

11-12-2001, 05:55 AM	#2
TarkanX Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 3,043 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Interesting theory, I fought cyris once, and he wasn't moving, and I beat him, to my dismay, he was on the phone

11-12-2001, 09:13 AM	#3
TMyApp Administrator Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,957 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	well, the animation is not the problem... it is still our old friend Lag yes.. the reason why u see one thing, and then a nother a second later is because u dont have the latest packets from the other player... but, the game tries to do its best in predicting the actions (which is #### hard)... but, the only reason u'r not gettin that much needed packet(s) is due to a poor connection... and/or .. (u guessed it) .. Lag u'r best bet is to set "lag compensation" to "high" to keep the buffer nice and small... and, wait/hope that we'll get that "player ping" feature installed soon (so that u can @least pick the players with less lag) :biggrin:

11-13-2001, 08:24 AM	#7
AXE Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,285 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	well it's wen you do to meny super's in one game i fond that out me self it's like wen i did a shinku it like never takes away no life it dose that on sfa2 we you fight m.bison i sucks <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>tmy you need to fix this thing</span>

11-13-2001, 07:09 PM	#8
Warmor Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Project Z Posts: 1,821 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	The REAL problem is that you people play with your #### clothes on, and that lags it up and screws with the coding! TMY!!! If you coded the game naked, think of how much better it would all run, and I bet you could do a new character ever 4 days if you did it nude.... And UMJ, since you are my best buddy (not really) I got this for you: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: __________________ If I don't respond to any IM's, I'm at work, so josh.maxwell@brinker.com, and I can e-mail you back almost immediatly. [img:sig_uid]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/warmor/warmorsig1.gif[/img:sig_uid] Created by: TremulantX

11-14-2001, 02:09 PM	#9
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