U.s. policy of "striking first"

[SSJKarma]

DEMOCRATY:
the public has the power, the public decide what happens to their country by having VOTES and the majority wins on the lesser number !

knowing that is the real definition of democraty !
let me ask you those questions !
- do you vote for the best president... (yes, democraty after all)
- do the president ask his peoples opinion before saying anything like WE GOES IN WAR ? (no he don't)
- is he asking your opinion when he decides to raise the taxes around your houses ? (no he don't)
- is he asking your opinion when he takes the money in treasury and by himself a prostitute (example, no he don't)
- when the secretary of defense does some hidden research on a MASS DESTRUCTION WEAPON, does he ask you your permission ? (no he don't)

is it really democraty ?
no !
why ?
because democraty is POWER TO THE PUBLIC which you obviously don't have at all !
we don't have it either... the only thing you got poweer on, is when you put a president up there, but once he's there he can what he wants and you don't have a damn word to say about it !

so no, it's not democraty, no i don't know what that is, but it is clearly not democraty !

[Nantuko Joe]

First off, learn how to spell, dude. What the hell is "democraty?" It's "democracy."

Democracy: noun
1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
4. Majority rule.
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.

That's taken right from a dictionary. We vote for all levels of government, and for the MOST part, the ppl have the power. It does have a few aspects of a Republic, but we're really a democracy. Now, you read that and tell me that the US isn't a democracy.

[bloodpack]

[quoteost_uid9="Nantuko Joe"][color=greenost_uid9]Seriously, you should at least know THAT much that US is democracy.[/colorost_uid9][/quoteost_uid9]
question...

is waging war on a certain country part of americans democracy?!

[Selvin]

Okay, democracy is: Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.

Now, going to war is a choice made by the government the people voted in. If you're not legally an adult you can't vote so I guess you have you right to moan and groan about America, but realisticly, do you wanna find out if Iraq has weapons and it may be to late??

[Irrelevant]

What of the fiasco of the last election? I know people who still insist it was completely rigged.

Anyway, don't you think it's a bit hypocrytical of the US to make demands about Iraq's WoMDs when they still have nuclear missiles?

[Selvin]

No because America wouldn't use them to blackmail the world.

[Squall87]

[quoteost_uid0="Irrelevant"]What of the fiasco of the last election? I know people who still insist it was completely rigged.

Anyway, don't you think it's a bit hypocrytical of the US to make demands about Iraq's WoMDs when they still have nuclear missiles?[/quote]
Yes, and that is coming from somone who lives in the state that botched the last election.

Yes, I agree that Gore would put us in a worse postion.

Ok, don't flame me these are just my oppionions, and some theorys.

First off, the FBI whistleblowing papers. The MI FBI field office wanted to investigate and attack, way before 9/11 from a suspected-terrorist. (Who now is caught, after attempting to blow up a plane.) The FBI says no, that there isn't enough info. erm...HELLO!? Can someone please tell me why there isn't enough info on someone wanting to smack a plane into a building?!

As for Vietnam, I'd avoid the draft and go to jail for it. That's me though. Vietnam wasn't Americas war, sure we were stopping communism. But why waste a American boys life just for that? Why not supply the Vietnameh with assault rifles and say, "Here you go, have fun." and let them go for it? Anyway, on a lighter note of that. it was NORTH VIETNAM that started the War. not RUSSIA or USA. NORTH VIETNAM! get that in your head. North Vietnam wanted to unify the South with them as a Communist Nation. Ho Chi Minna (sp?) wanted that to happen, so then Vietnam was free. That's why we went to war. But I still say we shoulda only supplyed weapons. Because after Nixon pulled us out. What happens? Oh, South Vietnam goes under. Which was what kids? Prolonged by US involvement.

Democracy, the People of the People for the People, that cannot be taken away. Then why the heck do we not get our say on War Policys and other crap? Just because we elect officals to politcal seats, does NOT mean we cannot say, "Hey, that's a bad idea!" When we do, many people think we are unpatriotic. *sigh* How wrogn they are, and how much right, the USA propaganda machine is brainwashing people.

The US steps on many poeples toes. And Joe, I know your going to come in and start trying to flame me and say Im unpatriotic. I'll just ignore that. I'm patriotic, I just don't support some vaules that Bush is doing. What about Japan? We nuke them, then were friends with them, yet they never get a memoral for Hiroshima or Nangaski.

Iraq, meh no comment. if the US wants to nuke them, nuke them, but then don't send me over there to have to pump the nuked oil. I personally will be moving to a nother country as I hit 18 to avoid this.

Bloodpack does have a point where I'm oging ot have ot find and quote on. The US doesn't help for free Nantuko. Sure you say we helped the Jewish. But they get racism here, because we are worryed about what!? MONEY!? :shocked: can someone please tell me how poeple seeking refuge are going to screw up our economy?

Yeah, Joe we did help them. for free. *GASP* *applauds* because Hitler was a mad man. So is IRAQ, I'll admit that. But if we strike first, many other countrys won't like that. That's why I say we wait untill we are in a bit better positon with the other countrys.

Many countrys don't like Americans Joe, have you ever visted them? Remember back in the 80s where *I forget the country* held 5 US hostages untill what's his name after Nixon stepped down from the Presidental seat two years later?

That's why I don't say out right that I am an American. Because many poeple will think I'm a pompanus Jack-ass. (Which, I desgress, only a few people in the US I know are.) and not the open-minded person that I am.

Oh, and I just wanna know. Did Bush actually have info on 9/11? Last I heard he did...hmm....

You may now proceed to flame me, on which I will ignore. :biggrin:

[Squall87]

[quoteost_uid0="Selvin"]No because America wouldn't use them to blackmail the world.[/quote]
Sorry for the double reply, but I just have to reply to this.

Oh what about this.

"Support our war on Terror, or we will list your as simpathizers. and then Nuke you."


We want IRAQ to reduce Nukes, that's good. Once we do that, we should start limiting our Nukes, due to the START accords.

[Scorponok]

US is not a true democracy. It's a Republic, a Democratic Republic if that makes you feel any better. Look at some of the ancient Greek city-states, those were democracies. If you have not noticed yet, we elect representatives in this country to represent us. We do not have the final authority in deciding most things. The country is too large to be able to run a real Democracy

[Squall87]

That's true, but I still ask the question. "Why?" doesn't the Elected officals listen to those of us that write, or e-mail them our comments? Yes, there is many letters and E-mails I'm sure, but meh. if there is a opposing side, then meh, shouldn't that hint them in that some people don't want us to do that?