Who is really in control? - God, humans, the earth, or the universe

[alamgir]

Are you guys starting a religious debate again? Well to be honest I can't be asked to join you.

[(ShinKu_Ryu)]

I would like to join this but as it has been pointless with debates that has to do with religion on this forum....They all end up in one way...

btw VF i didnt make up what i said...ill give u the chapter and verse in the bible and maybe you will understand it yourself..

[MEGA_DRACOS_XRL]

this has uprooted to sumthin astonishing!!!!!!!!

[Virtual Fighter]

Quote (Virtual Fighter @ July 19 2005,12:17)

there are at least 14 specificly named witnesses who saw him after he was dead and buried.

And there are hundereds of people who say they saw elvis fighting against bigfoot in a spaceship. But that doesn't mean it's true, does it? -_-

the Bible doesnt need to be rewritten or edited because its perfect....in fact, if you try to take or add to it you are promised plauges and

death.

OH REALLY?

" God good to all, or just a few?
PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but

destroy them.
War or Peace?
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
Who is the father of Joseph?
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:
MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint

him.

JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for

my Father is greater than I.
Which first--beasts or man?
GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and

God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air,

and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call

them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. "

http://www.infidels.org/library....ns.html

There are littereally hundereds of biblican contredictions in that link.

I guess eigther whoever wrote the bible meant to write like an idiot, or is just an idiot.

history and science are based on observation....fine! fantastic!

well how come historians and scientists wont accept the Bible as a factual piece of observation, yet they believe Homer's observations of ancient greece.

and another thing: the odessy by Homer talks about like adventures of Ulysses and wars and stuff.....and historians believe it.

but when the book talks about cyclops's and dragons and such, they wont believe that part.....its gay how people pick and choose pieces of what they do and

do not want to believe.

Lies. Where do you come up with this stuff? Find me one text book where it says that dragons are real. You won't find it. Because you're making stuff up.

Homer's odessy is listed as fictional liturature. The only thing history has ackowledged about homer is that he exsisted, he wrote books, and he died. That's

all. Quit making stuff up.

You're wrong, shut up.

the books of Pslams, Proverbs, and Song of Solomon are very well written books of poetry....I see no reason why they arent in a public school's

classic lit class.

Because maybe those books suck? They're badly written and arn't very good poetry. What are you going to teach through that? My teacher would be like "So, as

you can see from this passage... umm... umm.. those christians are full of poop."

but the Bible says you just accept the gift and thats it....no good works, no nothing.......so there is equality.

Wow. The bible really must fliping suck then, if you have to do all sorts of good stuff and it won't matter, because "you just accept it as a gift".

If you say that Jesus was real wouldn't his teachings of god be real?? sorry i have to go

No.

If I tell you, "This one time, I sawbigfoot and he was a space alien!"

Am I real? Yes. Is what I say real? No.

I would like to join this but as it has been pointless with debates that has to do with religion on this forum....They all end up in one way...

Yeah, with SSJKarma being a #### and closing the thread. I swear, if that guy gets anywhere near this thread I'll leave this forum forever.

"OMG U GUYS R FLAMING EACH OTHER" my ass.

[(~Miguel~)]

[quoteost_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]No.

If I tell you, "This one time, I sawbigfoot and he was a space alien!"

Am I real? Yes. Is what I say real? No.[/quote]
But since jesus Raised the dead and walked on water, wouldn't you believe him?

[Virtual Fighter]

And another thing...

The bible does to say the earth dosn't move and the sun revolves around it!

a) "SUN, stand THOU still.... And THE SUN stood still." (Joshua 10:12,13)

b) "The world also is STABLISHED [i.e.,"fixed" #3529 Strong's Con.] that
IT CANNOT BE MOVED." (Psalm 93:1)

c) "The sun AND the moon stood still in their habitation." (Habakkuk 3:11)

d) "He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his GOING DOWN." (Psalm 104:19)

e) "...the world also shall be stable [fixed], that it be NOT moved." (I Chron. 16:30)

f) "He...hangeth the earth upon nothing." (Job 26:7)

g) "The sun ALSO ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hastens to
his place where he arose." (Eccl.1:5)

h) "...so the sun RETURNED ten degrees...." (Isaiah 38:8)

i) God..."commandeth the sun, and it riseth not." (Job 9:7)

j) "...the sun shall be darkened in his going forth." (Isaiah 13:10)

k) "The heavens declare the glory of God.... In them hath He set a tabernacle for the sun, which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his CIRCUIT [orbit] unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof." (Psalm 19:1,4-6)

So suck it!

EDIT:

And to answer miguel's question, no, because that's humanly impossible. It'd be nice if true, but impossible.

If that's true then what's stopping all the miricles mohammad did, or events of greek mythology from being true?



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[Angel-Eyes]

[quoteost_uid0="Virtual Fighter"][/quote]

So suck it!

suck what? you just proved that the Bible is a legitimate source of knowledge......mabey if the Roman Catholics actually read the Bible then they wouldnt have killed all the people who said the sun was the center of the universe.

http://www.infidels.org/library....ns.html

those are taken waaay out of context and if you read and studied it in hebrew it would make alot more sense.

And there are hundereds of people who say they saw elvis fighting against bigfoot in a spaceship. But that doesn't mean it's true, does it? -_-

and there are hundreds of scientists that say I came from a monkey very simelar to bigfoot with bullpoop "evidence".......but that doesnt mean its true, does it?....apparently to alot of people today.

if you have to do all sorts of good stuff and it won't matter

so an old man dropps all his groceries in front of you.....ah! who cares, even if you help him it wont matter.

If I tell you, "This one time, I sawbigfoot and he was a space alien!"

Am I real? Yes. Is what I say real? No.

why not?......I mean, I can tell that you dont have any mental problems...well no serious ones. so why not believe you?

I swear, if that guy gets anywhere near this thread I'll leave this forum forever

then nobody will be left to have an intelligent conversation with
:huh:

[alamgir]

Lol if VF leaves this place, there would be no controversy, sometimes i'm even left thinking that VF even goes out of his way to start a debate. Its all good though.

[MEGA_DRACOS_XRL]

it's so repulsiive VF says.!!!!

[(~Miguel~)]

[quoteost_uid0="virtualfighter"]
And to answer miguel's question, no, because that's humanly impossible. It'd be nice if true, but impossible.

If that's true then what's stopping all the miricles mohammad did, or events of greek mythology from being true? [/quote]

This is how i believe. (not too offend people but this is how i see other religion) People say that Mohammad was true but did they have evedince? Or greek Mythology? People have Items at that time and place of jesus. Stories and other evidence that can prove his miracles were true.



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