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Old 07-04-2005, 12:47 PM   #1
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I love how almost everybody at one Point was into saying "flip THA GOVERNMENT", but goes to see tha foreworks every year on 4th of July and feel like a kid again!

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eventhough i'm canadian...the same can be said about some of us as well...

they say...the government is takign our money...but go right to Mel Lastman Square for the fireworks..

it doesn't really work does it? lol
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Old 07-04-2005, 01:21 PM   #3
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So missing out on the fireworks shows how rebelious you are towards the government does it?
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Old 07-04-2005, 01:39 PM   #4
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Don't take what i said the wrong way.

it could mean that...but for some people (like me) think that firewaorks are oast their time...like it's kinda (not saying it is) for kids..it's not as amusing anymore.

but that's what i think. others likely think different.




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[quoteost_uid0="Dark_Paladin_X"]Don't take what i said the wrong way.

it could mean that...but for some people (like me) think that firewaorks are oast their time...like it's kinda (not saying it is) for kids..it's not as amusing anymore.

but that's what i think. others likely think different.
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Yeah well in my city most kids see it as a chance to get drunk in a field.
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I'm so punk that my neighborhood doesn't allow fireworks to go off, but no body cares and we do it anyway!

That's what america is all about.

And to top off the spirit of american, i'm reading the narrative of frederick douglass, just to remind me how much america sucks.
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Old 07-04-2005, 02:34 PM   #7
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Wow, I'm sick and tired of you VF saying how much America sucks. America may have it's flaws but there's freedom of speech. If it sucks so flipin' much then why don't you leave...you don't seem to do anything but complain like an ass. I dare you to leave to somewhere like Korea and say how much Korea sucks and see how long you live.

Wow, I read the Narrative of Frederick Douglass too and he doesn't complain he actually does something. He worked for the Underground Railroad. And when he got beat up by a bunch of white sailors he didn't just say "Aw, poo America sucks. I hate it. I'm going to my room and whine about it." No, he didn't. He did something about it...he was so inspirational Abe Lincoln noticed him. And he helped changed the nation.

America has came a long way from there. And you only look at all the flaws and you do not see the long journey it has gone through. If you would like we go back a couple centuries back to slavery...America would truly suck then. Things take time if you are not willing to wait then do something about.

As for the fireworks. Yeah it really does suck that some people only see it as "Ooo pretty fireworks" but that's mostly because they are ignorant. The bad thing about America is that we make every single holiday a commerical holiday...and people forget the true meanings of things.
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Wow, I'm sick and tired of you VF saying how much America sucks. America may have it's flaws but there's freedom of speech. If it sucks so flipin' much then why don't you leave...you don't seem to do anything but complain like an ass. I dare you to leave to somewhere like Korea and say how much Korea sucks and see how long you live.
How hypocrtical of you to say how America is great because we have freedom of speech, then try to silence mine by trying to ship me off to some other country.

That's a bunch of bullpoop. America was based on the ideals that we have the write to say we're discontent, and not only do we have the opportunity to say it, but we should say. It's not based on narcessism, which is all we see now. Everywhere we turn it's a flag, or the president, or some national monument.

We're viewing America as the symbols that represent it, and not the ideals and meaning those symbols were founded for.

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Wow, I read the Narrative of Frederick Douglass too and he doesn't complain he actually does something. He worked for the Underground Railroad. And when he got beat up by a bunch of white sailors he didn't just say "Aw, poo America sucks. I hate it. I'm going to my room and whine about it." No, he didn't. He did something about it...he was so inspirational Abe Lincoln noticed him. And he helped changed the nation.
He did something, yes. He tried to change it by what? Going on a shooting spree? No, he complained. He wrote editorials, made speeches, and most of all, SHOWED his discontent.

He helped change a nation, yeah, a fliped up one.

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America has come (not came) a long way since then (not from there). And you only look at all the flaws and you do not see the long journey it has gone through. If you would like we go back a couple centuries back to slavery...America would truly suck then. Things take time if you are not willing to wait then do something about.
I am doing something. I'm showing my discontent.

Unlike you which is so blinded by the Fox news-narcessistic-we're #1 BULLpoop that you sit back and take the "lub is err leeb it!! Yeee haa less kill us sum hippees!" stance on everything.

What's so great about America now? We've got a president we didn't vote for, we've got a war that we don't want, we've got police who are bashing your head in at the drop of a sign, we've got racial profiling like there's no tommarow, people getting their fundamental rights taken away ala logans run, and we've got the highest poverty rates since the '80s.

This isn't my America. Hell, it's not even Mexico.

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Yeah, like freedom of speech. Or are you so "ignorant" you've forgot how to use it?

I'll give you a homework assignment.

Tell me one decade you think it truley fitting of "great", or celebration. One decade in American history you think is without flaw. How about one president? One president who didn't do anything to harm America. I'll make it even easier, one year. One year where America didn't flip over someone or something, and is truley deserving of the narcessism is exsudes.

America is the nation most full or itself in the entire world. It'd be fine is we could really pull it off, it'd be fine if we really are "the best".


It'd be fine if it were true.
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[quoteost_uid0="marvel911"]So missing out on the fireworks shows how rebelious you are towards the government does it?[/quote]
marve|, no THAT doens't Prove your rebelious(or whatever), but it does Prove that you are not one of those guys who says "I'm not gonna suPPort tha war", and then go buy a American Flag!

And Elena, freedom of sPeech huh?
My friend got Pulled over yesterday for sPeeding, and he had a shirt on that said "World Trade is a death Machine(my shirt)" and on tha back it said "flip World Tarde", and he got arressted.. Hmm..!

Yes, America gives you freedom, but doesn't follow through with 'em.
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umm america is for wussies
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