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Nantuko Joe · 02-08-2003, 09:22 AM

Even though that was not official bio on Gill, I figured out this much:

-Gill is not a god. Rather, he is "like a god." (you guys kept saying that he WAS a god, and cannot go to hell.)
-Gill can summon and unsummon fire and ice
-Gill's organization does not build him bodies. Rather, they build about 1,000 bodies to fight each other, and the strongest becomes the new "Emperor." Gill's body was the one who won the fight, and so he became the new "Emperor." (therefore, if Gill dies, he does not get a new body, but rather, a new non-Gill "Emperor" takes his place.)
-Gill's ability to survive a Shun Goku Satsu is not in the official Cannon storyline (so in this debate he can indeed go to hell)
-*Even if it did happen in the official storyline, surviving does not mean that he can "survive in hell," as Hibiki said. It said "he simply resurrected himself."

That information changes this entire debate that Gill is included in. Now for Rose...

A Taiyoken cannot be reflected in any way, because it is not a beam, projectile, or anything. It's a brightening of the sunlight. So even if it could be reflected, she'd have to move faster than the speed of light (impossible) Also, I timed myself, and it takes about .8 seconds to yell "Taiyoken." It is not possible for Rose to create 5 clones, have them each face a different direction to try and counter an attack, and launch their counters in .8 seconds. Even though she can launch the clones in .8 seconds, it does not mean that her reaction speed is .8 seconds. So in .8 seconds, Rose would have to realize that an attack is coming, then launch the clones, then have them use the Aura Spark. And I don't see that happening in .8 seconds.Nor can anyone read the minds of Goku, Tien and Kuririn, sense the attack coming, tell everyone else, and have them do what they need to do, in .8 seconds.

And as far as Gill goes, he would also need to know what is happening in order to form the ice/fire. To say his combined reaction speed and the time it takes to form the ice is less than .8 seconds is insane. So to say that in the time it takes for Kuririn and Tenshinhan to split themselves (which is less than a second) Gill could freeze/burn them is also insane, because his reaction speed is also insane.

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Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): Thanks (Received): Likes (Given): Likes (Received): Dislikes (Given): Dislikes (Received): Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Even though that was not official bio on Gill, I figured out this much: -Gill is not a god. Rather, he is "like a god." (you guys kept saying that he WAS a god, and cannot go to hell.) -Gill can summon and unsummon fire and ice -Gill's organization does not build him bodies. Rather, they build about 1,000 bodies to fight each other, and the strongest becomes the new "Emperor." Gill's body was the one who won the fight, and so he became the new "Emperor." (therefore, if Gill dies, he does not get a new body, but rather, a new non-Gill "Emperor" takes his place.) -Gill's ability to survive a Shun Goku Satsu is not in the official Cannon storyline (so in this debate he can indeed go to hell) -*Even if it did happen in the official storyline, surviving does not mean that he can "survive in hell," as Hibiki said. It said "he simply resurrected himself." That information changes this entire debate that Gill is included in. Now for Rose... A Taiyoken cannot be reflected in any way, because it is not a beam, projectile, or anything. It's a brightening of the sunlight. So even if it could be reflected, she'd have to move faster than the speed of light (impossible) Also, I timed myself, and it takes about .8 seconds to yell "Taiyoken." It is not possible for Rose to create 5 clones, have them each face a different direction to try and counter an attack, and launch their counters in .8 seconds. Even though she can launch the clones in .8 seconds, it does not mean that her reaction speed is .8 seconds. So in .8 seconds, Rose would have to realize that an attack is coming, then launch the clones, then have them use the Aura Spark. And I don't see that happening in .8 seconds.Nor can anyone read the minds of Goku, Tien and Kuririn, sense the attack coming, tell everyone else, and have them do what they need to do, in .8 seconds. And as far as Gill goes, he would also need to know what is happening in order to form the ice/fire. To say his combined reaction speed and the time it takes to form the ice is less than .8 seconds is insane. So to say that in the time it takes for Kuririn and Tenshinhan to split themselves (which is less than a second) Gill could freeze/burn them is also insane, because his reaction speed is also insane.