SFO Archive Forums - View Single Post - State of the union

Nantuko Joe · 02-04-2003, 03:39 PM

[quote

ost_uid0="princevegetam"]including woman and children? they were imprisoned too you know

how would you feel if you and your "future" family were locked up one day cause America had some war with Italy?

some japanese americans were even deported back to their home country. there WERE japanese americans who were shot and killed by the sentry. they had to work on acres of farmland. they were also racially discriminated against. kicked around by the sentry guards and laughed at.[/quote]
No, because i'm only 1/2 Italian, and have never been out-of-country, and was born here in the US...along with my entire family and bloodline until my great grandparents, who were the ones who immigrated here. There is NO possibility of any Italian American who was here for a generation or two or three to be a "sleeper agent" as i say. Over 50% (prolly over 75%) of the Japanese in the California area during that time were immigrants, many of which had immigrated within a few years of the Pearl Harbor attacks. They were also a minority, there weren't as many Japanese Americans back then as there are Italian Americans today (if they wanted to imprison Italians because of a war with Italy, they'd have the entire tri-state area [and then some] in camps, which is impossible.) Also, we're much more civilized nowadays than we were 50+ years ago, so such a thing would never happen in the US again. And the Japanese who were shot were 90% likely to be trying to escape. The way the US saw it was "we're treating them considerably fairly: we're just taking a precaution. They're still in homes, they were not forced to work for us, they were not forcefully mistreated, they did not have to obey any sort of curfew. If they're trying to escape, they're obviously trying to escape back to Japan with information or such." As far as the ones who were beaten; they most likely caused a ruckus or something. As far as being discriminated against: their people, who were TOTALLY unprovoked, had just attacked a US military installation with NO good reason, without warning. They had killed many US men with no reason at all, and so naturally they were discriminated against. I'm just saying that they had a reason to do so, I'm not saying that they were right and just in doing so.

02-04-2003, 03:39 PM	#42
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): Thanks (Received): Likes (Given): Likes (Received): Dislikes (Given): Dislikes (Received): Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="princevegetam"]including woman and children? they were imprisoned too you know how would you feel if you and your "future" family were locked up one day cause America had some war with Italy? some japanese americans were even deported back to their home country. there WERE japanese americans who were shot and killed by the sentry. they had to work on acres of farmland. they were also racially discriminated against. kicked around by the sentry guards and laughed at.[/quote] No, because i'm only 1/2 Italian, and have never been out-of-country, and was born here in the US...along with my entire family and bloodline until my great grandparents, who were the ones who immigrated here. There is NO possibility of any Italian American who was here for a generation or two or three to be a "sleeper agent" as i say. Over 50% (prolly over 75%) of the Japanese in the California area during that time were immigrants, many of which had immigrated within a few years of the Pearl Harbor attacks. They were also a minority, there weren't as many Japanese Americans back then as there are Italian Americans today (if they wanted to imprison Italians because of a war with Italy, they'd have the entire tri-state area [and then some] in camps, which is impossible.) Also, we're much more civilized nowadays than we were 50+ years ago, so such a thing would never happen in the US again. And the Japanese who were shot were 90% likely to be trying to escape. The way the US saw it was "we're treating them considerably fairly: we're just taking a precaution. They're still in homes, they were not forced to work for us, they were not forcefully mistreated, they did not have to obey any sort of curfew. If they're trying to escape, they're obviously trying to escape back to Japan with information or such." As far as the ones who were beaten; they most likely caused a ruckus or something. As far as being discriminated against: their people, who were TOTALLY unprovoked, had just attacked a US military installation with NO good reason, without warning. They had killed many US men with no reason at all, and so naturally they were discriminated against. I'm just saying that they had a reason to do so, I'm not saying that they were right and just in doing so.