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02-01-2003, 03:27 PM

For the WWII debate over the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I have this to say:

Killing less then 5,000 people in Pearl Harbor is hardly a justification for vaporizing 130,000 innocent civilians (note, 130,000 or thereabouts died instantly, the millions princevegetam reffered to died within the following days/weeks/months). Sure, they were givin a fair warning... but did the people of Japan get together and vote on the matter? No... I doubt they were even told. Remember, Japan was a militaristic dictatorship at the time. Tojo wasn't about to give up without a fight, and the civilian population had better stay the #### out of his way (again, pointed out by princevegetam). Do you really think Tojo cared if his own people were massacred? Nah.. he was just staying in power, much like Saddam is trying to do now. In fact the peace agreement allowed for Tojo to stay the brutal dictator of Japan after the war was over.

But getting back to subject... killing civilians is never justified through any means. Not Hitler's slaughter of Jews and Russians, not Saddam's slaughter of his own people, not the US bombing of Japan in WWII, not the Japanese slaughter of Chinese civilians, and well... all of it is killing off inocent civilians in the end, who none of which deserve to die.

That's all I'm gonna say on that issue...

As for my opinions on the state of the unioun adress? Well, I personally thought it was all a load of propaganda. For the first 30 min. or so, Bush just kept saying bs like "we need to help orphans and give them mentors", "help the HIV people of Africa", and "our economy is doing better, but not as good as I'm gonna make it next year", and other of the like bs propaganda for votes. I got too frustrated with all the propaganda-filled clapping... so I turned it before he got to Iraq. The one thing that was important that I heard was those hydrogen powered cars... "hydrogen makes a reaction with oxygen, which can be trasverted into energy" or something along those lines. I bet you can all guess which reaction he's talking about... :biggrin:

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