[Nantuko Joe]

Twelve is also a good candidate, he can change into the opponent, copying all the opponents attacks, except mystic attacks like Shun Goku Satsu, etc... Twelve is just like Buu, imagine Buu, hardly takes damage.

please define "mystic attacks". Can he gain the ability to form a Genki Dama or go SSJ? And just as Buu was eventually defeated, so could 12

Play SF3, fight against Gill, KO him when his super bar is at max, though that si game play, he can do the same for the storyline.

Yes, however, in real life, there's no "super bar" at the bottom of the screen. In real life, there would need to be some kind of measure of "super bar power" or something.

Anyways, I'd like to point out. In DB"Z", skill doesn't matter in a fight, it's always power level, and speed. There was never a time in DB"Z" where someone used skill to beat the other person.

Piccolo fused with Nail vs. Furiza Form 2. Although Furiza was physically more powerful than Piccolo, Piccolo was more agile, and also was more intelligent and had a more cunning fighting style. That is why Furiza had to transform to beat him.

Yes, it is true that power levels do account for like 90% of the fighting in DBZ, but fighting style also counts for something.

In SF, it's all skill, fighting potential does count, but it's mainly skill that determines the fight, that's why Zangief can't beat Ryu. He's physically stronger, but Ryu has more skill, and fighting potential.

However, it's also because of Zangief's bulk that he's also very slow as compared to Ryu. Ryu, being smaller and more compact, is more agile. It's kind of like this:

Ryu=Perfect Cell
Zangief=USSJ Trunks

like in DBZ, USSJ Trunks was stronger than Cell, but wasn't as fast. That's why he couldn't hit him.

So speed and power also have something to do with Zangief losing against Ryu

On the note of the Room of Spirit and Time: you can only be in there for a total of 48 hours in your lifetime. Goku spent a bit in the room when he was a child, and spent less than a year the second time. My argument for this, though, is that Vegeta is told by Piccolo that he can't spend all that time in the RoSaT before the Cell Games or the door'd disappear. If it were a technicality that he had to come out and go back in, Piccolo would've told him.

The door only disappears if you stay inside for more than 48 hours STRAIGHT. Remember when Goku and Gohan were training for the Cell Games, they went in for two days, and came out, and Goku said that they could have gone back inside to train more, but wanted to spend more time on earth. However, in one's lifetime, they can train as long as they want in the ROSAT, provided that it doesn't exceed 48 hours straight. They CAN INDEED simply exit and go back in again.

Anybody with a good deal of evil in their heart absolutely gets owned by Akuma (or Shin Akuma, same guy, just giving a damn). Shun Goku Satsu! Free ticket to Hell. You also have to consider Akuma's invincible teleport. He could just teleport all over the place and nail them in the back with the Shun Goku Satsu.

[colo=green]I've already defended DBZ against the SHun Goku Satsu attack, you're going to have to go back a few pages and read up on it.

And as far as his teleport goes: this IS a fight, right? That's like saying "Goku won't have to fight, he'll just SHunkan Idou all over the place and Kamehameha him in the back".

And according to you, the SHun Goku Satsu works only if there is evil in the opponent. None of the Z fighters are evil. Therefore, you just dug youself into a hole and can't get back out. According to what you said, the Shun Goku Satsu is innafective against the Z fighters[/color]

I further think that Akuma is immortal in the sense that old age can't kill him. Look at Muten Roshi, the wrinkled and bald immortal showing his age, for instance... just 'cuz you're immortal doesn't mean you can't show your age at all. Also, the world of Street Fighter is one where sheer determination and training can let a person endure deep sea pressures and need no air for hours on end, and sink an island with a single powerful chop (both Akuma, see SFIII:3S Akuma ending and SFA2 official story respectively). I hardly think Akuma being immortal against natural death is a stretch in this case.

Natural death simply means dying of old age. Your bodily functions and internal organs just become so old that they can't function anymore. That's just what "dying of natural causes" means. If he gets shot through the heart, he'll die.

In DBZ, the word "immortal" simply means "you can't die, you can't be killed, you can't go to the afterlife". In real life and in most other literary works, "immortal" simply means "you can't die unless you are killed by someone or something else".

On Gill: yep, Gill can revive himself. "RESURRECTION!" he just gets up and poof! There's his health bar again! And also Gill could take out any DBZ fighter with his insanely powerful and all-reaching Seraphic Wing attack. There's no escaping it, you can block it, yes, but it is the power of a God on Earth... there's no denying Gill.

Like I said, in real life there's no "super bar" or "health bar".

And KO means "knocked out", as in "knocked unconscious". "Unconscious" is like being dead, except your body is still alive. While unconscious, you can't dream or think.

Therefore, if one is knocked unconscious, they can only "wake up" via a long time or the intervention of someone else to help (smelling salts, water in the face).

Therefore, if Gill is KOd (ie, unconscious), then he wont' be able to use his powers to revive himself.