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first: vegeta said it himself when he was against zarbon. everytime a saiyen is defeated by someone, he gets back with TWICE STRONGER than he was when he gets beaten ! now i think that means i am right about it !
He only said that in the dub. He never made that statement in the Manga.
So that means you are not right about it
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second: put that in real life, if wqe train toi be able to lift 1 ton then after a whole lots of training, we will be able to do so ! now why is this not possible in the DBZ universe ?
example:
KRILLIN was powered up by GURU in the namek saga !
guru said that he had awakened ALL his hidden power !
now, if i follow your reasoning, he wouldn't be able to use more than that power cause he was already at the max of his own power ! but then, he was a lot stronger than that at the end of DBZ.
Once again, the dub. That was never said in the manga. The Saichourou only awakened SOME of Kuririn's inner power, but not all of it. Kind of like when Gohan went SSJ2 against Cell. He awakened SOME of it, but not ALL of it
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third: you cannot put the saiyens as there power is, you said it yourself unlimited, that means they will always win whatever you say against it ! but the mutants have their power and do not get stronger like the saiyens so yes they can be included in the fight as they aren't INVINCIBLE ! ok !
I never said that, go back and read my post. I said that they can raise their power levels "ALMOST infinately". When I said, that, I exaggerated a wee bit, but just to drive home my point that the strongest human at his max power could never get even close to the strongest Saiya-jin at his max power.
Therefore, a Saiya-jin WILL NOT ALWAYS WIN WHATEVER I SAY AGAINST IT, and therefore DO NOT HAVE INFINITE POWER AND ARE NOT INVINCIBLE, and therefore CAN be included in this debate.
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now i know what you're gonna say...
GOKU, VEGETA had already die so they aren't invinsible !
true about that... but still, vegeta got beaten like hell by zarbon and he came back and it was the other way around ! and vegeta never trained ! and zarbon was way higher in power than vegeta ! goku was beaten to death then he healed in that chamber and he got to way higher powerlevel than he was before. he had no training ! by definition i think it is a little overpowered !
Zaabon: about 23,000
Vegeta: 24,000
Because Vegeta is stronger, he is able to best Zaabon. Then, Zaabon transforms into Zaabon Monster:
Vegeta: 24,000
Zaabon Monster: about 33,000
This way, Zaabon is WAY stronger than vegeta, and beats him easily. Vegeta is NEAR DEATH, HE ALMOST DIED, then gets healed. Because he got so close to death, his power-up was more than usual. Thus, I concluded that:
Zaabon Monster: about 33,000
Vegeta after healing: about 35,000
Thus, Vegeta was able to best Zaabon, and also Vegeta's pl also explains why he was able to stand up against Rikum of the Ginyu Tokusentai
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Just goten the smallest z-warrior would beat all of the x-men
Nope. You're giving him too much credit
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vegeta would whipe out the entire universe
Nope. You're over-exaggerating
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i can tell that everybody likes dbz
all except ajtimbs
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This is my opinion
I would say sayians are the strongest race in the universe.
This is true.
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Sayians are born to fight they are born with the talent.
Fighting is the only thing sayians seems to do right. When
a sayian loses a fight there power increase .
THis is true
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Ofcourse thats just my opinion .I think any fighters from can raise there power level . and i didn't know the guy with the three eyes was from earth.
Yes, all fighters can raise there power levels, but not to the same level as a Saiya-jin.
And yes Tenshinhan is from earth