nantuko: i have enough of you always saying we are wrong !
START KNOWING YOUR CHARACTERS FOR A CHANGE !
NIGHTCRAWLER couldn't be sensed cause he teleport into another dimension travel in it and then come back to this one ! and it is INSTANT just like goku with his teleport !
you don't know it then go on
WWW.marvel.com and see the description just for the fun of it !
next. goku in a NON-KI fight isn't that fast !
why ?
because they ALL USE THEIR KI to ENHANCE their attacks, SPEEDS, STRENGHT !
VIDEL = with same training as other ZWARRIOR would have the very same strengh as the other ! don't just stop to the fact she is weaker in the manga, go beyond that. think training and techniques for a change ! if she had knew about KI, don't you think she would have trained herself with it ! again, if she had gone into the same GRAVITY training she would have add the very same strenght ! next, too bad, they train their STRENGHT and the SPEED is going up too. don't you think that is a little too weird ? why, because they use their ki to go at that speed ! when videl learned about the ability to use KI in the fight, what did she got ? more speed and strenght and also the ability to fly !
i just have enough of you always saying your right and we are wrong. your not the only one who know something ! try and understand or LET the person have the truth for once in a while !
MasterX05: vegeta didn't planned it would go that way !
he saw spopovitch strenght but didn't even know what maked him that strong so, he couldn't have PLANNED all this has he didn't know what was going on !
VIDEL = that kick WOULD had kill any STANDARD human ! she has the same strengh as KRILLIN in a matter of fact ! but lack KI to use so she is just NORMAL ! but still she would put a big fight on any DBZ chars if they wanted to fight with her in a NON-KI fight !
now, as i already said, THERE IS NO WAY TO COMPARE THOSE TWO AS THEY DON'T USE THE SAME PHYSICS !