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Old 10-17-2002, 04:20 PM   #10
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Although the part about Nam is true (he didn't have any ki manipulation and yet he still almost beat Goku), you gotta realize that that was way back in the day, where everyones power levels were around <300. I'd stake Nam at about 20. However, unless you have superhuman speed and strength at the same level of the Z fighters, i doubt he'd win
Nam should be between 40-80

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So its like a shield that hurts your opponent? Wouldn't that require a pretty good amount of energy to form and sustain?
Gill doesn't run out of energy

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He can do the Seraph Wing repeatedly without any loss of energy?
Yep

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That is not possible (at least in DBZ terms). The only reason Goku was able to fight Buu in the Buu Saga was because his BODY was given back to him. However, had his body not been given to him, he would have returned to earth as a ghost. Ghosts can't fight. Therefore, even if Gill's spirit is immortal, his body would die but his spirit would not go to the afterlife, and he would become a permanent ghost
Goku is not a deity, Gill is, if Gill's body dies, he can still fight with his soul, and he can go into other bodies.

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DBZ against SF will be something to watch but i'd still say DBZ because it's just to obvious. Compare the attacks of all the SF characters with the DBZ and DBZ will win. Buu can take care of all the SF characters all by himself because he can't die.(He's still alive in DBGT as Ubuu)
Buu can waste most SFers no problem, most SFers. and Buu got reincarnated by the dragon balls, he died by the Chou Genki-dama.

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DBGT against SF. SF lost this big time. The Dbgt characters are way to strong to lose this fight There almost invincible
DBGT doesnt coincide with the DB"Z"" storyline.

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Now i don't wanna take up much time and post a lot of backup info because you can compare mentally. I've seen all the Sf movies and Episodes same with the DB series and seriously DBZ will win.
You can't take SF movies, and episodes into canon, nor DB"Z" episodes.

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OTOKO MICHI: DAN most powerfull super, where he grab onto the person and sefl destruct himself with his KI !
To make the Capcom characters as good(almost as good) as Marvel characters, they had to weaken Marvel characters, and make the Capcom characters stronger than they are. So Dan was given an attack he isnt supposed to have.

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and again, the TRAINING goku and vegeta had (400x gravity) isn't impossible to us human ! as goku AND vegeta started training under very lower gravity first and then came up and up until they reach those gravities !
Vegeta only took 300, and Goku took 100.

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FAT BUU = good side
It would be better to say fat Buu is the The Fat evil Buu, Mr. Buu(good Buu) is the fat Good Buu, and Thin Buu(Evil Buu) is the skinny Evil Buu.

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Speed:Lighting fast speed. And at that speed any punch or kick would be a knock out
No DB"Z" charcater travels at the speed of light.

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Strength: Now these guys have a ton of power in their hands and legs. One punch from Vegeta or Goku would send someone like Akuma to his death.

Defense: The DBZ character would just stand there take all the hits and once the enemy is tired knock them out by Punch a hole through there stomach.
Almost any SF characters, and about Akuma, if they DB"Z" characters weren't toying with him, then yeah that would be true.

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one question: if gill is a "god" and he is immortal, then, was he ever defeated? if he's immortal, then there is no need to continue this topic since he can never die. so if that is the case then sf would win (with 99% credit to gill's immortality of course).
Yeah he is, he did lose, but he wasn't trying at all. He lost to Alex to see Alex's potential, and lost to Yun and Yang so they can understand Gill's plan. He always plays with his opponents.

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First off, SF characters don't use ki
That would mean Ryu can't do a hadouken, and everyone has ki, some have different types, Gen has ki, but he doesn't show it, since he is not a person that wants to use flashy techniques to waste energy.

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Vegeta was much stronger when he started his gravity training, and he started at around 100x gravity and worked up to 400x
Vegeta only used 300x gravity, the 450x is filler.

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Just because he's a god doesnt' mean he can't die. Kami-sama (Kami) is a god, and he died when Piccolo died. North Kaio-sama (King Kai) is a god, and he died when Cell self-destructed. Rou Dai-Kaioshin (the old Supreme Kai) is the super-god-of-all-gods from 15 centuries ago, and he died when he gave his life for Goku.

So you see, gods can die.

and even if Gill can't die, the Z fighters would kill everyone BUT Gill, then somehow lure Gill into the Room of Spirit and Time and blow up the outside of the room. That way, Gill would forever be trapped in a never-ending empty dimension
Though they are Gods, they aren't immortal, it's like the story of hercules, but he's a demi-god, they were never stated to be immortal, Gill has been stated to be immortal(his soul). And How could they lure Gill into the ROSAT? what ways? Gill would just increase the earths temperature, or decrease it. The ROSAT was 122 degress ferenheit(sp?) at most, and -40 degress ferenheit. They had a hard time with the weather(though It's not shown). Gill can increase the weather to 1000 degress ferenheit, and sheild himself from the weather.


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I thought they were in the same league as XMEN
Marvel owns DB"Z", and SF, but lets not get off topic


Alright, it seems that we're getting no where, and I remembered to list the SF projectiles.


Ryu
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Hadoken - About the same temp as the human body(98.6 degress ferenheit). Feels like getting hit by a nice solid kick. Once hit by this, the damage stays for a very long time.

Shakunetsu Hadoken - The same temp as hot water. Not enough to burn clothes.

Shinkuu Hadouken(charged up) - 5 hadoukens.

Ken
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Hadoken - Neither hot nor cold. Feels like a nice solid punch. The damage doesn't stay like Ryu's.

Sakura
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Hadoken - Is very warm, not as hot as Ken's. The effect varies on which type. Small - Feels like a hard slap. Medium - same as Ken's. Large - Same as Ryu's.

Shinkuu Hadouken - 5 Hadoukens(2 Ryu, 2 Ken, 1 Sakura)

Akuma
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Gou Hadoken - About the same temperature as the human body. Same kind as Ryu's but much greater in power and effect.

Gou Shakunetsu Hadoken - 3 burning Gou Hadokens

Messatsu Gou Hadou - 6-8 Gou Hadoukens

Dan
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Gadoken - Very warm. Feels like a slap.

Shinkuu Gadouken - 4 Gadoukens

Dhalsim
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Yoga Fire - Same temperature as boiling hot water. The damage feels kinda like the same feeling you get when you eat something very, very spicy.(Curry)

Sagat
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Tiger shot - The damage feels like getting mauled by a ferocious tiger. The temperature is freezing cold

Tiger Cannon - 5 Tiger shots

Chunli
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Kikoken - About the temperature of a warm bath. The hit doesn't feel like a solid hit but more of an effect that affects the whole body.

Kikoshou - 20 kokokens

Rose
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Soul Spark - Isn't cold or hot. The hit itself isn't hard at all but it makes the area it hit very numb.

Bison
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Psycho Shot - Very, very hot. And the hit will burn the area it hits instantly and makes it very numb.
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