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Wow, three more pages in a day. I've got some catching-up to do:

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How about Shadowcat? She has the ability to to slide through solid matter by negotiating the spaces between atoms. This effect can go to her clothing, and any objects or beings that touch her. (which means punches and physical attacks along with certain ki mean nothing to her. ) And while intangable, she can walk on air, and pass through electricity, etc.
That's great....and also, while she's doing her disapperaing act, she can't attack anyone either, because she'd pass right through them

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Toad is very very different. He has a unique ability to hop very far, which probably wouldn't help him at all, if he didn't have the ability to produce a substance that can paralyze his victims.
Ooh...he can hop. DBZ characters can fly. And it can't paralyze someone just from getting on there clothes or skin, they'd have to get it inside there body somehow

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Colossus has the ability to turn his body tissue into a metallic substance that is believed to be steel and osmium. That belief is still unknown to be true, but what is known, is that in increases his strength and durability.
Yes...steel...and what are those buildings in DBZ made out of that get destroyed so easily during fights?

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Domino is a mutant with psionic control over luck-altering probability fields, stacking the odds in her favor. In other words, never play poker with her!
However, this is a fight to the death, not poker. Luck has nothing to do with instincts and good fighting skills

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And finally the baddest one I can think of, Onslaught. Onslaught possessed the combined mutant abilities of progenitors Professor X and Magneto. He could induce illusions, temporary mental or physical paralysis, loss of specific memories, or total amnesia; project mind-numbing mental bolts; and sense the presence of mutants within a small radius. Also, Onslaught was able to shape and manipulate magnetic fields, both natural and artificial. Using his powers to augment his strength, he could lift up to 100 tons. Other abilities included telekinesis and astral projection.
Any buu could take him out (i retract my previous statement about only kid buu). Buu has no mind, no internal organs or skeleton. Therefore, he can not be subject to any form of mind control or physical paralysis.

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Now one thing that I always wonder about is how could DBZ characters give in to mind control. Don't you think they'll have the common sense to teleport and blow their controllers head of before it's in full effect.
Not if its done from a distance. Remember, Babidi controlled Vegeta's mind, and he was already a good way into the control before Vegeta even knew what was going on...

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LOL jugggernaut is a big joke. I'll just put broily against this guy. All the Z fighters fought broily and barely stood a chance because nothing was affecting him. If Juggernat comes with an attack to hit broily with broily would just grab his arm and throm him into the wind. I just wanna know 1 tactic that juggernaut would use to get a DBZ character. He's to big to be fast enough to catch them so it's a kick in the butt for him.
Brolly doesn't count, since he didn't exist in the DBZ timeline

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Sigh, X-men could take all the DBZ characters... if I havent said it enough times, DBZ would get owned by gambit, their Ki would be useless... and Cyclops and Gambit could just sit and shoot at them
How many times do I have to tell you? DBZ fighters don't use RAW ENERGY! THEY USE KI! THERE'S A DIFFERENCE!

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Wolverine could go close range, and what dbz attacks wont do anything to him, because he heals himself
He can't heal himself immediately. If he got blown through the midsection with a beam, it's all over. Not even the adamantium skeleton would stop the blast

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in the comics Magneto has the ability to use the iron in your blood to your disadvantage, so if we go by comics they would all die
All except the Androids, Cell, and Buu

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Nightcrawler has more speed than the DBZ chars cause he can just simply teleport
Teleporting is not a measure of speed. Goku can teleport too

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Shadowcat can just own them good, cause their attacks wont hurt her
Yes, but while she's in that state, she can't attack either

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Storm could slow the DBZ guys down quite abit with her powers, which leaves them to a disadvantage
However, Storm is incredibly weak, and the weakest Ki blast from the weakest character in DBZ would knock her down.

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nantuko: that's were you're wrong about sinister !

he's much like cell and had already bean blown up to bits by cyclops to a point where he was in about 1,000,000,000 pieces ! and jean sent them flying and spreading over the earth. and guess what ?

he BRINGED himself back together ! it took lots of time to do so, but he did !
he isn't MORTAL as he is much like GARLIC jr when he asked for immortality !
even cyclops beam cannot do a big ####. it STOP HIM AND HURT HIM yes ! but it doesn't kill him ! and the only reason it does so, is because cyclops beam isn't ki or anything it's PURE ENERGY ! no one can withstand pure energy !
I'm not just talking about little pieces. I'm talking COMPLETE DISINTEGRATION!!! As in, NOTHING LEFT!

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Roll, Wolverines arms could never be broken off, he has indestructable metal for bones remember. And I dont believe their ki is pure, only the spirit bomb, because they are just using their own energy, and the spirit bomb takes too long to make strong enoug.
the Adamantium on Wolverin'es skeleton IS ABLE TO BE BROKEN AND BENT. After all, how did the ppl who bonded it to wolverine shape it and curve it around his body? They had to have been able to bend or break or melt it somehow. Therefore, a DBZ beam would be able to shatter the metal.

And <span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>ALLL</span> of a DBZ character's energy is pure ki. There is no "pure energy" or "raw energy"


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Now i wanna bring a fact from a movie because Goku can do this even outside the movie but it just showed it in the movie.
If nightcrawler teleports goku will teleport with him and the dimension that they goto for that mear second goku would kill nightcrawler in before returning. My proof when metal cooler and goku were fighting they both kept teleporting and kept on showing how they went to the other place and got back fist to fist.
You can't use that, because that dimension doesn't exist. In DBZ, when Goku teleports, he <span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>IMMEDIATELY</span> appears where he wants to be, there is no in between. That dimension in Movie #6, it doesn't really exist

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so true for juggy !
and juggy throwed out the gem out into space to be sure no one ever messed with his powers !
cell wouldn't be able to absorb juggy as he would need to pass thru his armor... and as i know NOTHING HAD EVEN past thru it ! it made a big bunt in it but it never made a hole in it !
He can absorb it via his tail. Remember, he still has his tail in Perfect form, it's just really small. That's where he spit the Cell Jr.s from. He'd absorb the gem via his tail

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the gem wouldn't be absord as roll said ! CELL can't absorb what isn't biological
He absorbed Android 17 and 18. They're half biological, half mechanical. Therefore, he is able to absorb non-biological forms

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nightcrawler would survived in that other universe but at the speed it goes on ! GOKU wouldn't have time to kill him before he gets back as it is INSTANT ! and goku would get trapped in that other universe if it wasn't for nightcrawler opening him the door to this one again !
That dimension doesn't exist. And even if it did, there isn't only one entrance and one exit. Goku could form his own entrance and exit. And Goku's teleportation is INSTANTANEOUS, the exact moment he disappears, he reappears

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night crawler can cause them way too much damage and i am glad to know someone who had made me think of fav !
nightcrawler is one of the SIMPLE X-MEN that can kill any DBZ chars !

when he teleports it makes an explosion (a little but an explosion) he could simply teleport aside them and do it indefinitely ! thus making any DBZ chars unable to hit him but still DBZ chars would take full damage !

and they cannot sense him as it is TELEPORTATION ! so there is no way they can know where he will be appearing !
Those little explosions aren't REAL explosions, just a flash of fire and sulfur. They wouldn't faze the DBZ characters, no matter how many times he does it.

and Goku could indeed sense Nightcrawler's teleportation. Characters can sense teleportation. They feel their "ki" and feel where it can appear next. Also, Goku would be able to hear the explosion of nightcrawler's teleportation and be there to punch him the moment he reappears. Remeber, Goku can OUTRUN AN EXPLOSION EVEN IF HE IS AT THE CORE! Therefore, he would be able to hear the beginning of Nightcrawler's return teleport and be there even before Nightcrawler reappears fully


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cause really buu is invincble. All thou i am not suree that uub is invincble
although I'm all for DBZ, Buu is NOT invincible. lemme learn you something here:

After Kid Buu was killed, Goku wanted to fight Buu again (as a challenge) and used the Dragonballs to wish him back from death. However, only Buu's good half came back, and instead of forming Fat Buu, it formed Ubuu.

Therefore, Buu CAN be killed


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And Buu lost his invincibility after he seperated into skinny buu and fat buu (dunno their real names). So, no, he's not invincible.
He was never invincible in the first place

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VIDEL is an hell of a fighter !
when she learned how to use her ki then she had become more powerfull then she was ! all that is needed now is the training that goes with it and she could be as powerfull as krillin or even picollo
Videl could not become as strong as Piccolo or Kuririn. At best, she'd be able to kick Yamucha's ass (if she trained like mad), but no stronger

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and then Jubilee could taunt him.
He'd just get annoyed with Jubilee and blast her. Besides, what will she do? Shoot fireworks at him?

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