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ost_uid0="Roll"]Oh I see. You're trying to bring in the fact that they faught against each other. If you're adding in this, Vegeta would probably fight against Goku if Jubilee or someone else said that he was weaker than Goku, and the only way to prove he was stronger would be to kill him. Sad isn't it? Now, I can bring up rivalries all day. Would you like to make the fight fair or not? If so then I'll continue.
By Pheonix I mean the entity herself. They both combined, remember? They became one, and increased her power of the mind. She can definitely Control the minds of all the DBZ characters easily, as stated by Nantuko. Btw, Machine, you forget that Vegeta doesn't like to show weaknesses, so he might have just said that in order to seem like he meant for it to happen. I mean, he couldn't have known that babadi was going to increase his strength at all.
And Buu lost his invincibility after he seperated into skinny buu and fat buu (dunno their real names). So, no, he's not invincible.[/quote]
ok i see your point but vegeta saw how Videl did that fatel blow on Spopovitch in the tournerment, and did not even scracth him(and that move could almost kill a human) And when Vegeta found out about babadi's mind control over the 2 slaves which made them strounger than a averge human and the ablity to fly. He was thinking about letting babdi do this to him so he could be even more powerful. More powerful then goku.
For u see Vegeta knew he was weaker than goku when he failed against freeza. He was bossed around for years by the man who kiiled his father and he prince of all syains could do nothing about it, but when he saw goku go ss a mere low class sayain passed even him. Then and there he said for now goku is the stroungest i am at his mercy, also his pride was broken even when goku's own son took down cell and he failed in that. That is why he was so determine to be more powerful than goku and evened pushed his son trunks in training at a young age so his son could overcome goku's son goten.
Therefore it was his goal to train hard and one day beat goku in combat, and i dont think Jubilee could even push him thinking what he already knows
come on roll bring it on! :sly: