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I've slapped in my copy of MvC1 in again after months of it not being played and toyed around with Ryu in Training mode.

Yep, he has Shin Shoryuken, but only in Ken mode (half circle back, P). Reason for this being that Ken isn't in MvC, just like he wasn't in MSHvSF.

Problem with this is that in Ken mode, Ryu acts exactly like Ken; longer recovery during Hadoken, flaming Shoryuken, wider Shoryuken, more hits, less range on the Hurricane Kick.

If you gave Ryu Ken's Shin Shoryuken and left all the other qualities in there, the balance between the Shoto's is lost. What's the point in using Ken purely because of his Shin Shoryuken if Ryu has it as well as Shinkuu Hadoken?

Seeeee, this is what I was talking about in the first place.
Selvin, if you like Ryu's Shin Shoryuken in SF3, you're going to be disappointed with the Ken Alpha/Vs version - it's nothing like it, does a #### of a lot less damage and less priority in the air. You may win with it in SF3 (as do I - it's my fav Super Art with Ryu), but it's just so different in the Vs. Series, I see no real point in implementing it if Ken's going to have it too.

Also, what the fuck is your problem with me in all the other threads? Do you just not like people disagreeing with you or something?