10-09-2002, 01:56 PM
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Yes, that would explain a good bit,but remeber Garlic Jr. He was immortal,but piccolo kicked him around like he was nothing,and piccolo wasn't even fused with Kame at that time.
That never happened in the manga, therefore, it doesn't count. Those were only episodes. Toriyama never wrote the Garlic Jr. Saga, they were created by TOEI animation. And since Tarkan stated that we can't refer to anything that contradicts the manga, that claim goes unsupported
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Now if SSJTrunks was infact stronger than SSJGoten.(At that time).Also the fact that there SSJ how could Mr.Popo even stand up to there power.He must have more power than they actually showed in the series by him being immortal he had plenty of time to perfect arts of fighting....,or it was a fluke by the creator.
Because your Garlic Jr. statement is invalid, the immortality that Popo possesses must somehow give him enormous defensive capabilities. That's the only explanation
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I think it was a fluke by the creator.Now Mr.Popo was to much of a coward when Nappa and Prince Vegeta arrived at earth.Now we clearly stated that all the SSJ poeple and Piccolo could defeat the Street Fighters hands down.Now Piccolo is special he is only a little stronger than the powers of a level 1 SSJ Fighter because of his fusion with Kame.
Toriyama made no flukes. Popo didn't participate in the battle with Nappa and Vegeta because of Kame-sama's death when Piccolo died. Kame asked Popo to stay and watch over earth in his absence. Therefore, he stayed at Kame's palace.
And yes, Piccolo (fused with Kame-sama) was stronger than Vegeta before Vegeta entered the Room of Spirit and Time. Therefore, that statement is valid.
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Ok, Piccolo was evenly matched Android 17.Now 17 and 18 are about the same in power.Now robots stay at the same level of oppration unless the robot rusts or something else enterferres.As you noticed SSJTrunks(Not future Trunks) and SSJGoten fought Android 18 in the Adult Tournament...secertly.
Yes, Piccolo was even with Android #17. However, 17 and 18 were NOT about the same in power, it was stated that 17 was much stronger than 18. Therefore, had Piccolo taken on 18 before 17, 18 prolly would have been killed and Cell never would have gone perfect.
However, 18's power level did indeed rise. When Kuririn wished 18 back to life, he wished that she wasn't an android anymore. Because she was no longer an android, her power level max could have raised, and therefore would account for her holding up against Goten and Trunks
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The boys were at the level of SSJ 1.I think they were stronger than King Cold.
Now remeber Future Trunks only hit King Cold one time with his hands and crippled him.(Note:he was at level one).Now SSJTrunks and SSJgotens should've had the power in there kicks and punches to knock Mr.Popo out of Kames lookout.
Because Toriyama didn't give out Kold's power level, all levels regarding Kold are subject to guesses. According to my guesses, SSJ Trunks was slightly stronger than Kold, and SSJ Goten was prolly around even to Kold. After all, Goku DID state that because Trunks was a year older than Goten, he prolly was stronger.
But like I said before: since the Garlic Jr. statement is invalid, the only explanation for Popo's huge defensive abilities must be the type of immortality he has obtained.
I guess that in the DBZ universe, there are three types of immortality. The first type is normal immortality (ie. Muten Roshi), in the fact that although he can never die, he is pretty weak. The second type (if you insist on using Garlic Jr.) would be Garlic Jr.'s type of immortality. Not only is he immortal, but he has excellent offensive capabilities, with lesser defensive capabilities. Then i guess there's Popo's type of immortality, with extremely weak offensive capabilities but excellent defensive capabilities.
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