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ost_uid3="Nantuko Joe"]Listen, this is what I'm saying.
Because the series Dragonball and Dragonball Z were based on a manga, they were official. Toriyama wrote this manga, and then created an anime series based upon it.
Now, these corporates came along and made a new cartoon based on Dragonball Z, and released it to the public.
However, no one ever wrote a set of manga volumes that pertains to GT. It was ANIME ONLY. Now, during the course of DBZ, there are many ANIME ONLY events that do not take place in the manga. Movies #1-13 and the Garlic Jr. Saga do not appear in any manga volume, and therefore never officially happened, for they are ANIME ONLY.
So basically, the entire GT series is one huge ANIME ONLY event. There is no manga. What GT is is a FAN-ANIME. In other words, fans of the show made up their own story and characters, and got it animated and broadcast on TV.
So if this were the case, and you guys are saying GT is official, that means that if I draw up a fan-manga and write my own fan-fiction and introduce it into the media mainstream, that this is offical, right?
Toriyama never SOLD the rights to TOEI to make GT.
Therefore, GT is not a valid, official series, and therefore, this SSJ4 form never happened.
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ost_uid3]IF[/b

ost_uid3], and I'm using IF just as an example, but If Toriyama were to draw up a new manga for a new DBZ series, I'm 99.9% sure that he would have it take place immediately after DBZ and not GT.
And the only reason this information is not getting through your thick skulls is because you guys are so determined to prove me and Dan wrong, and believe so much that you guys are the correct ones here, that you can't listen to reason.[/quote

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Wow huge accurate and D@ng true to the Bone also I have to admit I am wit my pal Joe here :withstupid: same for mista hibiki :withstupid: :biggrin: