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Nantuko Joe · 06-25-2002, 10:50 AM

Tarkan, I was just about ready to accept your pls for Furiza (that at 100% power form 4 he was around 20 million), but then I remembered something: Goku was at 90,000 max while fighting Ginyu. After he healed (and went SSJ), then he must have been at 20 million to combat Furiza, right?

So, how the hell could Goku go from a 90 thousand max to a 20 million max in the matter of a few episodes? Here, I have charted Goku's various growths during DBZ:

Goku Vs: Radditsu (w/o weighted clothing): 416
Goku's Kamehameha: 924

Now, we can consider his power level using the Kame Hame Ha as his max power. Now, the next level we have for Goku is while fighting Nappa. At his max power (after powering up), he was around 8,000. That would indicate a 850% increase in his power (if my math is correct).

Now, not counting Kaio-kens during this period, his max was around 8,000. The next level we have for him is at 90,000 on namek. Going from 8,000 to 90,000 would indicate around a 1,100% increase in his power. Now, we can't determine the next time Goku maxes out without using the Kaio-ken, because he was using it the entire fight with Furiza. Therefore, the next max level we would have for Goku would be SSJ Goku at his max. Since you have Furiza listed at around 20 million, let's assume that Goku was also at 20 million (they were pretty evenly-matched during the fight. That would indicate a 22,200% increase in his power. 22,200%! In about a day! For Goku to increase the 850% to fight Nappa, it took a whole year. To increase the 1,100% increase it took I think a month, while training under extremely harsh conditions (100x earths gravity). Now, for someone to make a 22,200% increase just by being healed and transforming in a day or so seems extremely unrealistic, even compared to normal DBZ growth levels.

If you see any big errors in my calculations (and I'm sure you will), please feel free to support your own calculations and correct me where necessary.

06-25-2002, 10:50 AM	#190
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): Thanks (Received): Likes (Given): Likes (Received): Dislikes (Given): Dislikes (Received): Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Tarkan, I was just about ready to accept your pls for Furiza (that at 100% power form 4 he was around 20 million), but then I remembered something: Goku was at 90,000 max while fighting Ginyu. After he healed (and went SSJ), then he must have been at 20 million to combat Furiza, right? So, how the hell could Goku go from a 90 thousand max to a 20 million max in the matter of a few episodes? Here, I have charted Goku's various growths during DBZ: Goku Vs: Radditsu (w/o weighted clothing): 416 Goku's Kamehameha: 924 Now, we can consider his power level using the Kame Hame Ha as his max power. Now, the next level we have for Goku is while fighting Nappa. At his max power (after powering up), he was around 8,000. That would indicate a 850% increase in his power (if my math is correct). Now, not counting Kaio-kens during this period, his max was around 8,000. The next level we have for him is at 90,000 on namek. Going from 8,000 to 90,000 would indicate around a 1,100% increase in his power. Now, we can't determine the next time Goku maxes out without using the Kaio-ken, because he was using it the entire fight with Furiza. Therefore, the next max level we would have for Goku would be SSJ Goku at his max. Since you have Furiza listed at around 20 million, let's assume that Goku was also at 20 million (they were pretty evenly-matched during the fight. That would indicate a 22,200% increase in his power. 22,200%! In about a day! For Goku to increase the 850% to fight Nappa, it took a whole year. To increase the 1,100% increase it took I think a month, while training under extremely harsh conditions (100x earths gravity). Now, for someone to make a 22,200% increase just by being healed and transforming in a day or so seems extremely unrealistic, even compared to normal DBZ growth levels. If you see any big errors in my calculations (and I'm sure you will), please feel free to support your own calculations and correct me where necessary.