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Old 06-18-2002, 07:40 PM   #98
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*looks at agenda*

oy man these people will never give up....


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DBZ will murk SF. I don't want to argue because it's way to obvious.
Tell me how its obvious? You cant say how it's obvious, you need reasoning.

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Look Street fighter could beat everyone in the Dragonball series.(remeber that Street fighte is one series I think)
Not all SF characters can beat DB characters.


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Sf characters doesn't have that much dissapearing abilities .........

Dbz characters can dissapear ........they have more attacks than sf characters ...........

DB characters don't disappear, they just move faster than the human eye can see(only the top DB characters). And your right about DB having more moves, but SF has more signature moves(hadouken, shoryuken, etc...)

Some SF characters move just as fast as DB characters(oro, akuma)



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Sf wont stand a chance ..thats just impossible ..and there is no Doubt.
Again you exaggerate the DB characters and de-exaggerate SF characters. Some SF characters would own the DB characters(for like the 5th time I said it).


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You know my man Ryu could beat most the fighters in the Dragon ball series
....That's not true, The DB characters would own ryu, but ryu "might" stand a chance against Yamucha. But if Ryu were to turn into evil ryu, ryu would own many DB characters.


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Hmm good point i'll think about that.
HOLD ON AKUMA CAN DISAPPEAR SO CAN M.BISON
Akuma and Bison don't disappear, they teleport, disappearing is when you cloak yourself, and no one can see you, you dont travel when you disappear. The only SF character that can dissapear is twelve.



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you know Ryu's move and Goku's signuture move are the same with differnt names.???
No they are both different moves. shinkuu hadouken is ryu's, and the kamehameha is goku's. shinkuu hadouken is like an orb the size of ryu's hip, to ryu's neck, and the width of ryu's shoulder to ryus other shoulder. The kamehameha is much bigger.


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Actually, Furiza planned to blow up Planet Namek, because he can breathe in space.
True


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As far as Ground Hypers/specials/supers go, DBZ characters can take out any SF character.
Nope.....

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Teleportation? Nothing is better than Goku's Shunkan Idou and Janemba's "Cube Fade" teleportation.
Janemba isnt in the manga so he doesn't count.


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And about your saying that street fighter characters "can shoot huge fireballs, and others use their speed to finish off their opponents," goes, have you ever heard of Goku's Kamehameha wave? Vegeta's Final Flash? Piccolo's Makankosappo

its kamehameha, not kamehameha wave, that proves you watch the dubbie show. vegetas final flash wouldve destroyed the earth, but he was aiming at sell. I doubt piccolos makankosappo would destroy the earth. It just pierces through the opponent. And Gokus kamehameha could destroy the earth at the time when he was in the Freiza saga.



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Tarkan, if Radditsu can go speed of light, then Cell most definately can. Remember when Radditsu dodged Piccolo's Makankosappo? Piccolo said, "That's impossible. He can move faster than light." Sure, Kuririn can't blow up earth, but I'll bet that Tenshinhan during the Cell Saga could come damn close if he wanted to.


Raditz can't go at the speed of light. Piccolo never mentions Raditz going at the speed of light, he just says he moves way faster than us( us meaning piccolo and goku).

When Raditz dodged the makankosappo, piccolo didn't say that was impossible, he said "damn" because he charged up so much energy, and wasted most of it. Piccolo doesn't say raditz can move faster than light. No one except SSJ Gotenks and above is recognized to be faster than the speed of light.


No Tenshinhan can't blow up the earth, even with the shink kikohou, when at his max, he can't blow up the earth, just mountains.



[quote[To conclude, I'd like to say that Furiza Form 1, with a power level of 530,000 could easily destroy a planet.[/quote]

True, but thats freizas max, freiza can't ever go max or he'll kill himself due to the stress.



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At the end of DBZ, most of the major characters had a power level of around 300-500 million.
actually most of the major characters have a PL over one billion.


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I sincerely doubt that a Street Fighter character could come anywhere close to destorying a planet. Also, with the speed and skills of the DBZ characters, they would reign supreme over SF

A SF character doesn't have to destroy a planet to beat a DB character. Ryu fought Hugo, and Hugo's strength is way higher than ryu's, but ryu still beat him. hugo even survived a shin shoryuken, and shrugged it off after he was hit with it.


Some of the most powerful SF characters move just as fast as the DB characters, and the probably have just the same, if not, more skill than the DB characters.



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However, if it is as the Title of the Topic says, and we're comparing Street Fighter to regular old Dragonball (when Goku was a kid), then Street Fighter would kick DB ass

When I say DB, I mean DB in general, Do I have to say DBZ? I listen to the manga, the manga says Dragon Ball, in the Buu saga, the cover says Dragon Ball, not Dragon Ball Z.





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btw: SF doesn't have power levels. So it would be impossible to say if they were stronger. And Sf characters can move around those blasts. Anyone can do that.

SF characters do have PL's, just not in terms of DB wise.


Some SF characters can't move around blasts by DB characters, Look at when Gohan and Krillin fought Goldo, Gohans bad accuracy kept making Goldo flying, and Goldo was on the run, but Goldo isn't that fast.



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Dragonball would definetly win the only person from sf that might actually manage a minitue is ryu

Don't act like an idiot... Like I said before some SF characters would own the DB"Z" characters. Ryu is no where near the strongest SF character.



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nankuto: if raditz could move at the speed of light and goku said that his instant transmission thing also moves that the speed of light, then wouldn't that be contradicting it self. then why would goku use instant transmission at all many times during his fight with cell.

Goku's intaneous movement teleports him, he doesn't have to move, he just "teleports"


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tarkan: if piccolo can only regenerate if his head is intact, then how would you explain cell's regenerations(from one cell, and surviving goku's kamehameha in the face) considering that cell got his DNA from piccolo.
Cell doesn't have a soul, Piccolo does, and Piccolo is being, but so is Cell, Cell is both android, and bio at the same time, you have to completely destroy him like Buu.




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yes, kaioken decreases power, but it's the power for that instant that counts. plus, that spirit bomb doesn't necessarily need powers from living things. it can just draw power from a black hole or supernova(no one can survive getting sent into a supernova or black hole).
yes the kaio-kens power used that instant counts, and Kaio-sama(king Kai) stated that the spirit bomb needs powers from living things, like water, animals, people, etc...

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ryu's dark hadou has never been confirmed that it is unlimited. there is also no confirmation about how limited it is therefore, it is not valid proof. if you always say sf characters own dbz, name a few.

I didn't say it was unlimited, I just said Evil Ryu can beat many DB"Z" characters. And I said some SF characters, and I'll gladly name some, and how they would own them.



Akuma: Akuma can destroy mountains, using the kongou kokuretsuzan technique. The Kongou koku retsuzan only takes a few seconds to be charged, and used. the power is gathered from the heavens. So if Akuma uses the kongou kokuretsuzan against Gokus stomach, Goku = R.I.P. any form of Goku can goku would die. But saying this is a ground battle since Akuma can't fly, but he can jump very high.

The Shun Goku Satsu(raging demon) destroys the soul. If you get in a shun goku satsu, opponent= R.I.P. The Shun Goku satsu is too fast, and saying this is a ground battle, it's going to catch goku if its a hand to hand combat fight.

The Tenshou Kareki Jin can destroy a huge ship in one attack. It's not as strong as kongou kokuretsuzan, but more than enough to kill Goku.


Akuma can stay under water for days, he can stay as deep as 3,000 feet below sea level. I don't see any DB"Z" character staying in that long. Goku can only stay underwater for about 5 minutes tops. Akuma can sink an Island with one blow.


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Gill: Gill has so much power, he has the powers of fire and ice. he can control fire and ice anywhere, so Gill can freeze your ass or burn it from thousands of miles away from where you're at. Gill can bring fire and ice out of the heavens, Gill can change the temperature by making it really cold, or really hot, and Goku is like any above average human when it comes to temperature.

Gill's Seraphic Wing destroys anything in site. You'll disinigrate(sp?) is you are in range of it. Gill grows angel wings(angels represent god-like powers), Gill can fly with angel wings, and much better than the DB characters fly.


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Oro: Oro 's variable kishin Riki lifts people up to the skies(clouds) from ground level, and drops them like a nuke.

Oro's tengou stone lifts up any debree in the world, and he can control it. Oro can lift huge things with his psychic powers, he can even lift up people!

Oro's variable Yagyou Dama is so Huge that it's almost as Huge as the Genki-dama thrown at Freiza. The varable Yagyou Dama sucks you in, so theres no escape from it.

Oro has lived to be 150 years old which is a really high feet. Krillin at the end of DB"Z" is in his late 40's-early 50's and already has grey hair growing, that shows he getting old. Oro can fly like and DB"Z" character can.


Oro can move so fast, that super strong humans like Yamucha, or Krillin, when they move is only slow motion in Oro's eyes.


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Shin Bison: Shin Bison has huge psychic powers, he can fly as good as any DB"Z" character can, and maybe even better, Bison has powered up ki like the DB"Z" characters.

Bison can teleport anywhere in the world, and his psycho crusher is so devastating that it kills above average humans.

Bison has all the the negative energy from people in the world, and put into him. Now the farmer which is a regular human, his PL is 5, now every human has negative energy in himself, now lets say 2 of is levels are negative, and theres 6 billion people in the world. 6 billion times 2 = 12 billion, so add 12 billion to bisons standard PL, and you got a super strong character.

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Twelve: Twelve is like Buu basically. twelve can turn his hands and feet into weapons like an axe, knives, needles, etc... Twelve can disappear, so you can't see him, and since twelve was created, he doesn't have ki, so you can't sense where twelve is.

Twelve can fly, but not as good as the DB"Z" characters can, Twelve doesn't take damage if you punch or kick him, only ki power can damage him. Twelve can split himself, strech himself from every part of his body(so if your 1,000 miles away, he'll grab you). Twelve can turn into his opponents and use the opponents attacks(but if he turns into goku, he cant use the genki-dama).

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Evil Ryu: Evil Ryu can destroy osuld using the shun goku satsu, and teleport, but thats the super natural powers he has.



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i now persent another fact for you to analyze. many times, the dbz characters have been able to send others through mountains and deep into the earth. and many times, those characters being crushed have survived. which sf character can do the same thing or take the same punishment

No, there was never a time where a DB character was sent through a mountain, or deep into the earth, the just fought in mountain sides, but this is all the manga.
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