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God is the Creator, he doesn't have a craetor..., if he did, then he wouldn't be infinite, or eternal. He doesn't have a begining or end. Things that have a begin and an end exist in time, but he is eternal, time doesn't apply to him.
Then where did he come from? There has to be a bigginning, and an end. This rule applies to everything. He had to come from somewhere.
Things don't exsist just because they do.
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About the 20,000,000 people, your wrong. Many christians and non-christians have testified of being healed of their sickness because they believed in God. Lol, it's funny how some people only believe in God, when their sick, or on their death bed in the hospital. There's been people healed of cancer, malaria..., and so many other disease. God can't just heal you if you don't believe in Him or know him.
That's because there is a cure for malaria, it's been known since the 1800s. There is treatment for cancer, and many people have beat cancer NOT because they prayed, but because their lives were in the hands of proffesionals.
Aids has no cure and no one has ever survived from it.
If you credit god with everything, it just means you have no will. Instead of saying "I got this award because I practiced hard and did my best!" No, isntead, you de-credit yourself and say "God did it. It was all him, I had no part in it because I suck."
Also, the human mind works wonders. It's been known that if you believe you're getting better, you're going to get better. That's why people use placebos to cure their ailments, even though it was all their own will.
No, it wasn't some magical force, it wasn't some dude on a cloud, it was yourself. You did it. You and medicine. That's all we know, and that's all we can base anything on.
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God has always healed people who had faith in Him, and believed him. There was once some old lady up in Arizona, who was infected with some brain disease..., and she was at the edge of dying. Doctors did everything they could, but then they told her husband that she would die. fortunately for her, she "believed" that God lives, and that he is capable of healing her.
First, quit making stuff up. Unless you have a link, unless you have a picture, unless you have PROOF, this story never happened.
Second, i've seen peope on the edge of dying, too. They lived, too. You know why? No, it wasn't magic, it was the fact they believed not in god but in them SELVES. In their power to control their own body, and in their beliefe in the wonders of modern medicine.
If I were to shoot you in the brain, there's no god that will save you, you would die. That's just how things work.
Now, if you're going to quote a story, or an incident, give me a link so we can know is actually happened?
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Things looked hopeless..., the doctors, her husband were in the room with her, when all of a sudden the room was filled with some strange light hanging over the lady and immediately her brain was well functioning at a 100% and there was no sign of the disease. The room was filled with silence..., everyone, including the doctors were speechless. She was "healed", why?! Because she knew who she believed in. So many people have experienced Gods healing due to their faith.
Did you read that in your bible? -_-
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There is no way someone can truly prove God. Only God himself can..., and he does it in his own way. Lol, God doesn't think the way you think, for him to come down and hi. His face his brighter than the sun,
Pfft. And what's with this bullpoop about Everyone in the bible being white. That's bullpoop. I was watching the church channell's cartoons today, and the virgin marry, the angel, and everyone else they met were all pale as poop.
They live in the middle east. Now, unless you wear alot of sun screan, you're going to be dark as night.
Jesus was brown, had brown eyes and had short hair. The first image is the "traditional", blond haired, white skined blue eyed "aryan" jesus, the second is the historically accurate jesus:

"And Jesus probably did have some African links - after all the conventional theory is that he lived as a child in Egypt where, presumably, his appearance did not make him stand out."
Even in Latin America and other parts of the non-white world, where Catholecism and christianity are the #1 religion, Jesus and all of his people are white.
[i] "The hair was the easiest - there's a reference in Paul which says it's disgraceful for a man to wear long hair, so it looks pretty sure that people of that period had to have reasonably short hair. The traditional depictions of Jesus with long flowing golden hair are probably inaccurate."
"Jesus, the Annointed One (Kristos), was a Jew, a member of the Semitic peoples. The historical record is very clear, unequivocal actually, that 2,000 years ago the Semites were a brown, dark brown or black people with tightly curled to woolly hair. The one phenotype that Jesus the Annointed One (Kristos), or any of the disciples for that matter, would not have been was a Caucasian, a white man."
But why would the church lie to you? I don't know, are they racist, too?
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The people who wrote the bible did not make it up. It was written by rabbis, of scrolls found sometime in 1700's or earlier in the greek and hebrew languages before translated in English and french.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
The final book, the book of revelations was written in 90 CE AT THE LATEST. That means, 90 years after jesus was born. NOT in the 1700s.
For flip's sake, you don't even know when or who wrote the book you've dedicated your life to!
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Lol..., this arguement is a waste of time. The subject of the topic itself is not debatable.
Looks like someone is backing down because he doesn't believe...
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