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believe in a higher being because without one...the world doesn't really make sense...well, at least to me it doesn't. My mom is a Roman Catholic and my dad is an atheist. So I've been pretty confused throughout life...but let me tell you something.

How doesn't it make sense? Religion doesn't hold the world together, if anything it's keeping the world appart.

If anything, with religion the world makes even LESS sense.

"How does sun come out and go back in?"

Religion - "It just does, okay"

None-Religion - "It's the gravitational pull that causes the world to go around the sun, so it's the world that's spinning and not the sun"

Religion has it's flaws but it also has the good things about it. It teaches people discipline like Abdoun earlier had said and gives hope as asshole said. Religion at least Roman Catholicism does not say kill all the Muslims and anyone who is different. Individuals say things like that and people begin to get confused as to what is real and what is not...and to make what they're doing seem good they say I'm doing this for my religion when we know most religions don't say go kill anything that is different from you. They say this so they feel better about what they are doing. Let's not get religion confused with the individual that preaches it.

Let me tell you a little something about most every religion. It's not based on hope as I want it to believe, it's based on fear, as most christians are trying me to believe.

It's not "hopefully i'll get into heaven for being good," it's "I better be good or else i'll go to hell."

The entire concept of heaven and hell is based on FEAR.

Many people donated to the tsunami disaster because of church. My mom's church gave the money that they were going to use for the church to the tsunami disaster. Any many people sustain from doing some bad things because of what their religion teaches them. Some is better then none.

That has nothing to do with church and religion, it has to do with humanitarianism and good will. Why is Live 8 on the TV right now? It's not because god said so, it's because HUMANS got together and said they wanted to raise awarness and try to help other HUMANS.

There was no god involved.

religion creates values and the entire law system was created from religion.

Exactly! Like when your wife cheats on you, you're supposed to throw stones at her untill she dies.

And that slaves are okay, that if somone kills your daughter, you're allowed to kill theres.

Don't forget to control your women and hate gays!

Yes, these values are keeping our society together.

again and again, i should say that religion topics have tended to always turned to flame for too many people takes thigns too seriously around here... so why not try to keep it down a bit ?

How about no?

This is flaming:
# Informal. An insulting criticism or remark meant to incite anger, as on a computer network.

What has done that here? NOTHING. So please, shut up with your "talking abotu stuff creates flames! Don't think!" attitude. I'm tired of seeing every single good topic go to hell because you close them prematurally, sighting your faulty "Thinking creates flaming" rules.

i mean its us human who said 2+2=4 its no convention... for me it can also be 22 but everyone tells me i am crazy everytimes i say that to them. thus it prooves people minds are stuck and widely not openned like they were supposed to. that is due to the fact that they need to think they knows everything and they need it to be rational and understandable. for if they can't understand it, then they simply start acting crazy and mad !

Not only are you crazy, you're stuck in some "I'm smarter than you because I can randomly defy laws of mathematics" mind set.

The only way you can do some bullpoop like that is if you can prove it. Can't prove 2+2=22? Then shut up.

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