[Elena]

I would much rather have some theif stab me than have a bullet go through my head.

Uh, I would prefer neither, but atleast if they didn't ban guns I would have a chance of shooting the person dead before they shot/stabbed me.

*Prove

"self protection, 32 percent of firearms
owners, or 21,000,000 individuals; followed by target shooting, 13
percent or 8,500,000;

See? "Protection" is greater than target shooting.

Yeah, prove oopsies.
And you said more times then none these guns were used towards others then target practice. Protection doesn't necessarily mean towards others. Protection could be an animal. And "towards others" doesn't necessarily mean protection it could mean revenge.

That's an assertion, which mean it's a statment which I intend to prove through the course of the debate. That's what i'm trying to prove, it's not a fact I claim.

How about you try to DISPROVE IT?

My assertion is common sense. If jimmy shot timmy, what should you do to prevent this from happening again? Get rid of the gun.

Don't put it on a top shelf, don't make timmy pay 50% more, just get rid of it and it's the guarenteed way to get rid of the problem.

Deleting guns from america's identity will only have a posetive effect. If we don't have guns at all, (I'm not talking about increasing the scrutiny of buying a gun, even though that would help. I'm tlaking doing away with them entirely.) we don't have your situtation becaus there will be no guns to steal.

Well, I believe it's a bad assertion to say that if we delete guns from America it will work this time. Like Nerco said they tried to ban drugs and such from America but don't you still here about people smuggling drugs from Columbia, Mexico and Cuba. Laws rarely stop people from getting what they want to get and for you to ask that all guns to be banned is really stupid because what if this law were to go through and everyone were to get rid of their guns but the bad people. Now, what would protect those good people without guns from those bad people with guns.

Are you kidding me? dubya tee eff are "iraqis" gonna do? Are they gonna buy a boat and go all the flip over here?

I said and all the other countries that hate the USA. And that's a lot. Let's replace Iraq with N. Korea. Is that a better example for you? N. Korea may not be very big but when teamed with Japan or even China what's stoping them from invading the US. China is one friggin 3rd of the world population. And N. Korea and Japan have the technology to blow us up. Not to mention Japan has been building subs since their contract from wwII is almost up. Don't even tell me something like "China would never harm us." N. Korea has China wrapped around it's little finger and if they wanted to team up with N. Korea they would especially if forced.

Oh yeah, what'll we be fighting with, sticks and stones?

1. What makes you think people will give up all their guns?
2. What makes you think people will stop making homemade guns as they do homemade bombs?
3. What makes you think that people won't buy guns illegally?

Don't put it on a top shelf, don't make timmy pay 50% more, just get rid of it and it's the guarenteed way to get rid of the problem.

Ok, let's get even more specific with the probelm at hand. Ok, you get rid of guns...what's stoping kinds from still watching shows like RAW and attempting the moves. So because this is killing people also would you get rid of wrestling? How about football? I hear lots of people die from that and when kids attempt the tackles people also die. And oh no Timmy witnesses a Ninja show. Timmy decides to take a bucher knife and attempt the throwing knifes move. Ok sure banning guns may lower the death rate by a lot but what is stopping kids from modeling after another bad violent behavior such as the knife throwing act. Kids will always model themselves after another person. It's what they do. It is up to the parent to teach them not to touch this and to keep the gun away from the child and have a gun lock on it at all times. To do this Bush should pass a law like Clinton wanted to give a gun lock with each gun sale. I don't think we should ban guns but maybe make it more strict to get one.

That's a bleak guess on what MIGHT happen. We have no evidence of this happening already, as all types of guns are already accesable to the public.

Let's take a page out of Elenas's book:

Proof it.

Hehe...you said Elenas's...
No problemo. Did we not try to ban drugs? And you still see people doing/selling drugs?
Don't you see people still smoking under 18 and drinking under 21? How about making it illegal to even jaywalk but don't you still see people doing it? Ok, so you see people will usually still do something regardless of a law. In fact, sometimes it gets even worst if you do try to ban something because of the high of doing something you know your not suppose to be doing...if you know what I mean. What's even worst is that it's in the freakin' consitution. If you actually ban guns people will really loose hope in the goverment. Which again is why I said the government should make it harder to get a gun. Because as Americans we are somewhat spoiled and to try to take something completely out of the consitution no matter how good the cause is nearly impossible. It was tried once before the NRA stood against it and won.

If other countries have done it so well, why can't we?

Because they never had the thing to begin with. To start without something is easier than to try to take away something that has been with us fro more than century. And damn right we fear each other.



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