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Old 04-29-2005, 04:45 PM   #27
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Oh lord your getting on my nerves...you speak about shows you know nothing about...if they put a guest star in a show they do it for a reason.

All of the guest stars the put on friends added to plot....they weren't there as stand-ins. THEY ADDED TO THE PLOT. I could tell you the reasons for each of the guest-stars but I won't it will take too much time. But I recommend you stop using shows you know nothing about. There was 6 friends btw.
Who cares? Because what I do know is the plot stayed the same: "6" friends living in new york, sometimes they fall in love with each other.

There. How exactly do these "guest stars" change the plot? Oh yeah, they don't.

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I said nothing of the such. I said that script writers stick to the race they knowbest because...when they don't they usually turn to sterotypes, which i think is way worst then there being an all whatever cast. Atleast that way they are not spreading bad sterotypes.
There are more than one writers for a show, you know. And if they aall are the same race *coughracismcough* could they atleast TRY not to make a show that fits them, but fits AMERICA since the show isn't their's but AMERICA'S?

If I write a show, does that mean i'm gonna make it about meixcans, since i'm mexican? Or make a show that represents AMERICA, since AMERICa will be watching it, not just the mexican-american populace.

Even your greatly "friendly" reality TV isn't safe from racism.

Dave chappelle made a VERY funny skit about the real world, saying "They always put one black guy in the house and make him look crazy. No poop! You try being the only black guy in the house and see how you feel." He then went on to showing a skit of "The madd real world", where there 7 black people and 1 white guy.

Very funny. Very true.

I read something very interesting which helps my point that TV is reinforcing racial prejadices:

"Interestingly enough the pattern is protected by the following concept: if you notice this you yourself are racist because no-one's supposed to notice colour. Which goes to show how dangerous being politically correct is, because while everyone's saying they don't see colour, deep down - subconsciously - a continued persistent pattern has to have some kind of psychological impact. Not only on those who aren't black, but also to those who are.

Representations give these contestants few redeeming features and make them one dimensional. There's casting and editing. In fact, the editing of Omarosa has gone overboard. The camera's so desperate to get those shots of her mug being iffy it'll actually cut the rhythm of the main action just to show how terrible she is.

Omarosa is thus disliked because of the type of person she is, and obviously disliking her for this reason is not being prejudiced. But what are the effects on large numbers of audiences constantly not liking the characteristics of a particular type of contestant time and time again?

Michael Moore would suggest that constantly focusing on representing a particular group of people in particular ways gives a distorted social view, and because I agree I would put forward the argument that in many instances the depiction of black contestants in reality TV could be reinforcing racial stereotype and ultimately prejudice."


http://www.tapoopagg.com/tv/racism.asp

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Ok, I don't know what planet you're from but televison hasn't been around for 400 years...we are talking about television not segration in general. And if you haven't noticed...shows are slowing changing they're no longer the same as they were many years ago where there were perfect little white familys in perfect little white houses. I'll use Desperate Housewifes for example. The people on that show or nowhere near the normal and the richest family on that street is HISPANIC. You see it's slowing happening as I said before it takes time. If it happens to fast it might leave as fast as it came.
400 years of racial prejadice, reinforced by film, liturature (not so much, thank god for books), music, plays and most of all, TV.

That "shows slowly change" poop is bullpoop. Shows addapt, they don't change. If they were to change you would see things as they truley are, how things are true to life. The prejadice that exsisted on TV that was there when TV first started was.

When MOVIES first got their accademy awards, in 1927 blacks were not aloud to get awards. That rulling was quickly over turned.

So you'd expect black people to be getting awards left and right, right?

Wrong.

Of the 78 best actor and best actress awards given, 4 were to african americans.

That's 5%.

Wanna know why?

1) Racism in the accedmy
2) Racism in those who choose who to pick in movies.

There can't be more minorities winning statues if they arn't picked in movies.

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Uh, no. Successful scripwriters write about things that PEOPLE want to see or they think they want to see. It's not the other way around. If they didn't their show would soon go on hitatus and we'd never see them or their show ever again. I'm not saying that this is a good thing that a black person wouldn't be willing to watch a "white" showbut this is the scriptwriter's job and if they want money then they write what people want....
So, what you're saying is making money is better than doing what's right?

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And uh how come you never answer my question:
Why don't you write a successful script that people want to see on screen? As you see, it's not happening fast enough for you so why don't you do something? Stop complaining about this on forum and go to someone who can do something...or do it yourself.
Hey, lady i'm not the one arguing with ME. If you're so sick of me "complaining" (even though all I did was write my own thoughts down on a peice of paper and see what you guys thought of it, you're the one trying to change my oppinion, i'm merely deffending my stance), why don't you stop posting?

It's very hypocritical (and this ALWAYS happens) how when people are pushed up against the wall, and can't defend themselves they jump out with the "If you're so eager to change things, go out and do it isntead of complaining on a forum!"

That's hypocricy. Becuase what are you doing? You're opposing me. If you're so tired of it, quit opposing me. Don't tell me what to do.

And another thing, I can't change the entire nation, for god sakes. I wanted to see what would make a good topic for discussion since this god forsaken forum is in desperate need of one.

If YOU'RE so passionate about YOUR stance on this, why don't YOU go out and make more whites-only shows, blacks-only shows and keep pushing the views of segregation into everyone's faces?
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