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*cracks nuckles*

Okay... first off welcome Nantuko joe... I see your green texts haven't lost their valour :biggrin:

In any sense, you'll know the only reason I'm posting here and now is cause I in fact do not agree with ur concepts about rap and rock being totally different in their production.

Of course, there're both 2 different genre of music.. but that does not mean they have nothing in common. If my memory serves well, one piece in fact CAME from the other one. I won't jump into any conclusions as to which came first, but I'll give you the scoop when time and brain power permits.

You said and I quote...

Songs usually have a period without vocalization, which is used solely for instrumentals, possibly guitar riffs or drum solos.

i.e... an adlib so to say... Now go listen almost all recent rap songs that feature an R&B duo... or just plain rap songs... hmm, lemme think of a good one.. ah better yet, an old one... Thug mentality by Krayzie bone. It has a spot where you hear nothing but the "beats" as you all call it. Whether it's at the beginning of the song, at the middle part (just before the R&B singers take over).. or at the tale end.. there's always (for the most part) an adlib to a rap song where the talents of the producer is being "showcased".

Song lyrics and references vary drastically, and sometimes or usually require a firm intellectual understanding to grasp their true meanings.

You know that's not 100% correct. Both genres have their share of idiotic lyrics that just spawn from the shallowest portion of the minds of these individuals. Sometimes, rappers say/rap about nothing more than what they have and what they can do to you... as for rockers, Well, I don't really want to go through the trouble of looking for "senseless" lyrics to some rock songs out there.

Of course, most of them are meaningful, and as for rap as well, you'll have a lot of meaningful lyrics to some of the songs. There's a few of them... but I won't bore you by listing them.

In any case, the point I'm trying to bring is that you'll always find some of the elements from one genre in the other and vice versa. Something about rap would be in rock.. and something about rock would be in rap. That's why the joint venture by Aerosmith and Run DMC was a success.

You could basically mix up both worlds and come up with something lovely. Check out Linkin Park's In the end. I still find myself struggling to categorize that song as to whether it's a rap song or a rock song. Why?? Just like you say.. it has repeatitive beats... care to argue?? I'm listening to it right now :biggrin:

And then you have this show on MTV (can't quite get the name) that feature Snoop Dogg freestyling to the instrumentals by a rock group.

So no matter how you look at it, there'll always be similarities :biggrin: