[SSJKarma]

HILDERGARN that's it, thanks TJ ! dman my fav movie of them all and yet i forget about the name of the monster itself !

such a great movie, first time i see VEGETA protect people rather then jump in the fight !

ok, now as to why he is stronger !
1 - GOTENKS got almost killed in one shot
2 - SSJ3 GOKU couldn't stand the blows of the creature. well he could the firts hit. so he had to use the advantage of the weakness the monster had !
3 - Gohan, last form, boost to his max but still gets kicked hard. and fell unconscious for a while !
4 - Vegeta, comes in full strenght blast the monster, the monster disappear in vapor and reappear behind vegetea, kicks him into the nearest building... vegeta blocks the FLAMING attack of the monster to protect civilians. and gets tired having lost all of his remaining energy ! (seriously as fast as that, one blast from the monster and boom vegeta blocks and lose all of his energy in the process)

see, that monster rocked, i agree at first it was stupid looking, but when it evolved it was superb, tho its true that it looked as a giant cockroach !

trulky, a fight between BUU, HILDEGARN and BROLY, damn, the whole solar system would shake for each blow who would be given !