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Old 05-13-2003, 07:15 PM   #19
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2kwarrior: do you really think BUGS can proove that tiers exists ?
do you really thnk that that super that makes you freeze is really suppose to be in this game ?

if you said no, then you are thinking like myself !
but if you said yes to one of the two or even the two then you are not seeing this like it really is suppose to be seen !

i know a game's not perfect...
but if you had to make a fighting game, would stupidly make a very strong, agile, fast character that beats all the others ? i wouldn't do that kind of thing, so why would any game designer make a character that is playable by all that can easily vaporized all others ! what you are implying is that a higher tier is not capable EVER to defeat a very lower tier ! which is totally false !

a character in a fighting game is done while looking at the others !
if ryu is very strong, then chunli will be very fast. if wolverine is a hand-to hand character then he will have some move that will make him go pass thru the opponents attack so he can be what he is good at !

its always been like that in every single game i know !
example:
ZANGIEF against RYU
knowing all of you, you would all say that ryu is sure to be the winner while i sure knows that it is a false statement !
zangief can as easily avoid an hadoken as he is easy to pull out moves while jumping !
he has moves that can pass thru hadokens and basically all other all other long range moves.
why ? because he is made to attack and grab at close range, never have they made him there just to be beaten by all other chars !

other EXAMPLE:
SERVBOT vs RYU
again, all you'll be saying is that he is a so lower tier that he can easily be beaten by ryu anytimes... but must i remind you that servbot is fast and hard to hit !
see, they all have their counter parts against characters stronger then them which make em more balanced !

if a game has tiers, then i simpoly say that the game is very very very poorly made !

also, what i said, is that if you want to prove tiers to me, you'll have to get rid of the human variable cause it has to much random effects on the outcome !

example:
one day you have 300 person that you pull out stats of, the next day you have 300 different persons and you'll notice that your actual stats have completely changed !

also, your statistique are based on things that we all know is not equally made ! the number of people that actually use the char ! if on 200000 users, 100000 uses ryu and the rest is divised on the different 5 other chars that are in, you'll understand that you statisques are based mainly on the number iof users that actually plays a character which really doesn't make the character a better one !

its not because 100000 users uses ryu that he is better and have better tier then sentinel who has a mere 10000 users !

anyway... by now, i have already told everything i needed to say, nothing much can be said in here cause we all know that statistique says what we want them to say ! i will stop, cause for all i know, you are all so hard believed on tiers that you willl just not aknowledge somthing that goes completely against your sayings !

final word from me, it doesn't exists, cause there is no way to actually prove something like that !
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