Roll's Friend: And who would you classify as the "best" Chun li user? Troy88? Dark Masta? Black_Rob? There is no best with ANY character as long as lag remains.

wrestlemania: Please... we all know Wolverine's survival depends on lag, and lag alone. Without it, keeping his "drill claws" from getting anywhere near your Ryu would be nothing. When you hadoukened him in mid drill claw, and it actually goes through, he wouldn't have a chance at touching you. Berserker barrage is just as useless. It takes a lot of damage but is slowed. Slide claw's awesome response time was taken from it, so that's no use either. Tornado claw can both be easily avoided and captitalized on when Wolverine is left helpless coming down at a slow rate. Berserker Slash is probably the one/only useful move he has, and even that can be blocked and shoryukened.

But in spite of all that, he still needs lag to even give him a shot at winning. Just think... why would Wolverine's supers take an enormous chunk off the opponent AND be only broken by helpers/projectiles? Just think.... why is it that Wolverine users who match drill claw against hadouken waste 10+ regenerations per match and STILL lose? And why do you think Wolverine has had so many tweak "ups" while Ryu has been made gradually crappier with each new version?

There's one simple answer too all of this... he sucks, plain and simple. Without combos, without grabs, without Weapon X, the only thing that will ever keep him winning in this game is lag. Stop decieving yourselves... when/if lag is ever dealt with to a point where it's almost un-noticeable, you won't (ever) be able too get in close on good Ryu users again.