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Weej · 03-11-2003, 10:19 AM

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ost_uid10="SSJKarma"]just to let you know the real deal...

"you do not pay to play"

does that mean you can compare a game like graal... (dubya tee eff is it ? that zelda online ? )
answers no !
you can't compare a game where you have no choice but to pay to actually play the damn game !

a good example of this would be the game RUNESCAPE...
people have an already great RPG game which attracts about the same number of people as this game ! needless to say that the game named RUNESCAPE is actually a PAY TO PLAY game !

IE:
you get UNLIMITED FREE PLAY. you have your character, you can do a lot of quests. you have a certain number of weapons at your disposals ! but the fact is... RUNESCAPE, you have to play if you want the real FULL GAME account ! which gives you even more quests, even more weapons, a lot more quests !

has it made people getting jealous of FULL ACCOUNT against those who doesn't ?
no it never did !
why ?
because people there have already much of the game without paying for it... they just say, you want more, then pay for it !

that's exactly what VIPs here are all about.
they payed for more, why would they have nothing in exchange ?

the facts is... you guys are just jealous and since you lose to people like us VIPs, your giving yourself lots of excuses !

beta test before you ?
yes we do, but would you rather have a GOOD version coming out, or having a LOTS OF BUGS version that people will get you lots more flaming because of ####### bug !

we get upgraded character...
yes, we do, but almost all of the time, you will eventually get the character or better ! so if you could just wait a couple of weeks more, you could see how you will get something !

reason... when tmyapp those something for us VIPs, he actually does something for you. it is already being worked on as we speak, but you seem to only think of what JUST came out and doesn't think of the future !

just be patient... time will repay the time you waited, and this, 10 folds ![/quote

ost_uid10]
Hmm, I already knew that you dont have to pay to play. In Graal, a non subscriber gets access to FULL LEVELS AND SERVERS, can change their appearance just like anyone else by loading GIFS... the only difference is that you can't save your character if you have a non-subscriber account.

And indeed people ARE JEALOUS, SSJKarma, look around you! People are posting about Evil Ryu this, and Evil Ryu that, why can't non-vips get this or that... are they neccessarily jealous?
no!
Do they WANT THE PERKS regardless? Of course!

"the facts is... you guys are just jealous and since you lose to people like us VIPs, your giving yourself lots of excuses !"

This is where I think your going a bit too far, you keep your "facts" to yourself, because I HAVE defeated VIP's AND LOST to them all together. This post wasn't even meant to be an excuse, it was actually creditiing VIP's in the first place. You have obviously blown the topic out of proportion.

And ofcourse it wont become something extreme, but there will be quarrels, and rivialries, it happens to any online game with a similar basis, and this game wont be any different.

And to TMyApp, To Make your Application? Ah, it was worth a try I suppose

I am not trying to post in a negative way, VIPs will get benefits because they help the game the way they do, they help reduce costs for you, and anybody that runs a project like yours knows that money comes into play, money helps, and yes I beleive that most of these people want to help you honestly and genuinely, but I also think that there are people who did it for the perks, ofcourse I think that if people are willing to put money on the table to help you achieve what you want to do they should be rewarded one way another!

But take into consideration, after the game gets even more developed in the near future, that there will be problems like this. No it isn't some Holy War between the VIP's and the N-VIP's, but situations may happen. You making a great game and I think you should continue to do so!

Most of you people have blown this topic off of what it orginally meant to say, that people may have problems with this VIP thing (people aren't PERFECT, you aren't going to get them the way you WANT THEM) so when they starting b!tching and whining and acting like F@ggots, deal with them! Because every game has its fair share of #####, and we have to iron them out! :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

03-11-2003, 10:19 AM	#9
Weej Junior Member New Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 11 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): Thanks (Received): Likes (Given): Likes (Received): Dislikes (Given): Dislikes (Received): Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid10="SSJKarma"]just to let you know the real deal... "you do not pay to play" does that mean you can compare a game like graal... (dubya tee eff is it ? that zelda online ? ) answers no ! you can't compare a game where you have no choice but to pay to actually play the damn game ! a good example of this would be the game RUNESCAPE... people have an already great RPG game which attracts about the same number of people as this game ! needless to say that the game named RUNESCAPE is actually a PAY TO PLAY game ! IE: you get UNLIMITED FREE PLAY. you have your character, you can do a lot of quests. you have a certain number of weapons at your disposals ! but the fact is... RUNESCAPE, you have to play if you want the real FULL GAME account ! which gives you even more quests, even more weapons, a lot more quests ! has it made people getting jealous of FULL ACCOUNT against those who doesn't ? no it never did ! why ? because people there have already much of the game without paying for it... they just say, you want more, then pay for it ! that's exactly what VIPs here are all about. they payed for more, why would they have nothing in exchange ? the facts is... you guys are just jealous and since you lose to people like us VIPs, your giving yourself lots of excuses ! beta test before you ? yes we do, but would you rather have a GOOD version coming out, or having a LOTS OF BUGS version that people will get you lots more flaming because of ####### bug ! we get upgraded character... yes, we do, but almost all of the time, you will eventually get the character or better ! so if you could just wait a couple of weeks more, you could see how you will get something ! reason... when tmyapp those something for us VIPs, he actually does something for you. it is already being worked on as we speak, but you seem to only think of what JUST came out and doesn't think of the future ! just be patient... time will repay the time you waited, and this, 10 folds ![/quoteost_uid10] Hmm, I already knew that you dont have to pay to play. In Graal, a non subscriber gets access to FULL LEVELS AND SERVERS, can change their appearance just like anyone else by loading GIFS... the only difference is that you can't save your character if you have a non-subscriber account. And indeed people ARE JEALOUS, SSJKarma, look around you! People are posting about Evil Ryu this, and Evil Ryu that, why can't non-vips get this or that... are they neccessarily jealous? no! Do they WANT THE PERKS regardless? Of course! "the facts is... you guys are just jealous and since you lose to people like us VIPs, your giving yourself lots of excuses !" This is where I think your going a bit too far, you keep your "facts" to yourself, because I HAVE defeated VIP's AND LOST to them all together. This post wasn't even meant to be an excuse, it was actually creditiing VIP's in the first place. You have obviously blown the topic out of proportion. And ofcourse it wont become something extreme, but there will be quarrels, and rivialries, it happens to any online game with a similar basis, and this game wont be any different. And to TMyApp, To Make your Application? Ah, it was worth a try I suppose I am not trying to post in a negative way, VIPs will get benefits because they help the game the way they do, they help reduce costs for you, and anybody that runs a project like yours knows that money comes into play, money helps, and yes I beleive that most of these people want to help you honestly and genuinely, but I also think that there are people who did it for the perks, ofcourse I think that if people are willing to put money on the table to help you achieve what you want to do they should be rewarded one way another! But take into consideration, after the game gets even more developed in the near future, that there will be problems like this. No it isn't some Holy War between the VIP's and the N-VIP's, but situations may happen. You making a great game and I think you should continue to do so! Most of you people have blown this topic off of what it orginally meant to say, that people may have problems with this VIP thing (people aren't PERFECT, you aren't going to get them the way you WANT THEM) so when they starting b!tching and whining and acting like F@ggots, deal with them! Because every game has its fair share of #####, and we have to iron them out! :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: