[Nantuko Joe]

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No, in DB, they still used their ability to sense the opponent's ki, because when they're pulling off Zanzokens (after-images) and such, they can't exactly see nor hear where the opponent is going to be next. So no, you're not correct.

If they start a battle off with a Taiyoken, the opposition would be blinded for a few seconds, and knowing Vegeta, he'd just powerup a massive attack just to kill them (IE: Bikubang or Final Flash). Or, Kuririn can hit the Taiyoken, and then use a Kienzan, and that would be HIS plan, totally independent from any other plan they would have. Same thing would go if Tien uses a Shinshin no Ken to create clones, each uses a Taiyoken, and then have each clone use a Shin Kikouhou.

And I never said exploiting Goku's weakness for food would be invalid. Hibiki did. Earlier on, Hibiki said that no character personalities are valid in this debate, so Gotenks wouldn't be so cocky, Goku wouldn't be so cautious and forgiving, etc. Hibiki did this, well, because I said that in a NORMAL fight, Kid Buu wouldn't be teaming with Goku, and Akuma wouldn't be teaming with Ryu (etc, you get the idea) so Hibiki rid us of character personalities.[/quote]


If the DBZ fighters have a better fighting power than the SFers why would they use such strong combinations on weaklings........(I mean weak compared to there strongest warriors) ...why would they use such combinations you are explaining.

THEY WOULD NEVER START A MATCH THAT WAY NEVER!!!!! The DBZ fighters would sense there power levels then fight at partial strenght to see if any of the SF fighters are holding back....then if one of them could atleast stand hand to hand with one of the weaker DBZ fighters.....Yamcha,Tien,etc......then maybe those combinations would be used....

(Note:You already know this,but..I'm just restating it...Krillen would never use his signature death move Distructo Disc. Unless his opponent is far stronger than him....(Like almost everone he has battle....he didn't use a Distructo Disc on Guldo of the ginyu force....and his power level was way lower than krillens....besides there personalities....wouldn't allow them to finish someone with a dirty tactic you mentioned....)

I still believe that Tien was far stronger in the series than he was given credit for...[/quote]
You apparently did not understand, or chose to ignore, when I said that CHARACTER PERSONALITIES ARE NULL AND VOID IN THIS DEBATE. As in, you can't say "DBZ would start off at partial strength yadda yadda yadda", because that is their personality. Personalities are a no-no in this debate. As in, you can't say "Kuririn wouldn't use Kienzan etc etc" because, once again, you're talking about his PERSONALITY. This debate does NOT include the personality traits of SF or DBZ. Therefore, in this debate, Kuririn can indeed use Kienzan (what you dubbies call Destructo Disc) without warning.

You also apparently did not understand, or chose to ignore, when I said that THIS IS AN EQUAL-POWERLEVEL FIGHT. If this was not an equal powerlevel fight, DBZ would win within moments. The Z fighters (minus the humans) have powerlevels in the high hundred millions, a couple in the billions, while, judging from the power of the attacks of SF, the SFers have powerlevels far below 10,000 (Vegeta, with a power of 24,000 while using his Gyarriku ho, had the abilit to blow up the earth. None of the SFers have this kind of power.

Because of that, this is an equal powerlevel/range type of fight. As in, all of the fighters are about a few hundred million normally, and then they can increase in power with any transformations they might have. This includes the abilities to go Super Saiya-jin, and whatever power increase abilities that SF possesses.

You should carefully read that post, realize your big misunderstanding/mistake/whatever, and then post again should you choose.