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blanka09 02-02-2005 11:22 AM

Yes yes, we ALL know the importance of doctors and of course medicine in our daily lives... medicines are created here and there to stop God knows what sorta disease (with a name only a boolean equation can quantify :biggrin: ) that our so-called bodies get.

but think about this for a second. If there was a cure... say for diabeted, that would, in 3 months, eliminated the need for shots. A cure that would dramatically drop the sugar level in a diabetic person's blood stream so that he/she would not need insulin shots anymore. Wouldn't that be a great idea ??

The unfortunate thing is, "the big name agencies" wouldn't let it be public. Why ?? Cause it'll "harm" the profit oriented scheme that the agencies that put out the insulin shots have in mind.

A healthy person doesn't need drugs. Ill and sick ppl need drugs. So if there were to be a natural or herbal supplement that would totally cure a life threatening disease... say cancer; one that would remove the need for any sort of chemotherapy... do you think the drug industries and medical institutions that give out these treatments would like that ??

It's just something for us all to think about... still thinking, well read on :biggrin:

What's the one thing most ofus wish for and pray about ?? To be in good health. However, if every single soul in America were to be in good health, a LOT of drug companies would be shut down. Why ?? A health human does NOT need drugs.

Then there's the point of producers making food and so-called "diet foods" that in fact make you hungrier. These producers aren't for the agenda of a eat less excercise more therapy. Cause they know that if you eat less, you wouldn't buy more food from them. So they put in ingredients that make you addicted to the food, so that you want to buy more. They make catchy slogans and call the food all sorts of names so that you can buy more.

It's quite disturbing... yes I know... and to think they'd do this all for the sake of making "more" money :biggrin:

but there's also the deal that if we're all healthy, then the doctors would loose their jobs. I don't know what your stand is... but it's quite difficult to make a stand.

Would you rather prefer a world where herbal supplements were produced at a higher rate; ones that would heal us quicker and easier. Ones that would eliminate the fear of long term life threatening illnesses such as cancer and AIDs. Of course, don't forget that this world would put a LOT of people out of their jobs. Doctors, pharmacists and even some janitors would loose their jobs if we didn't need the drug companies anymore.

Either that, or the world we have today. Where some herbal supplements are suppressed so that they do not sway the consumer's need for a constant supply of drugs that would put money in the pockets of the drug agencies.




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y_09 02-02-2005 12:09 PM

Stem cell research can help alot with research for curing diabetes, paralysis, and a number of other diseases regarding re-growth of cells that have died of that are damaged,and different types of research are taking place investigating new cures for all sorts of diseases such as nasal sprays that can apparantly reproduce insulin cells in the pancreas,which can help repriduce insulin cells that ''could'' help the pancreas re function once again,

There is always something new out its just to do with testing it and seeing if it is sustainable, and if it can work without any awkward after effects..... :biggrin:

I just recenty read in the paper that curry is considered a cure for cancer, (the british media comes out with all sorts of ''odd'' info at times) :biggrin:

Herbal supplements aren't really as reliable as lets say
antibiotics to cure lets say cold, but a down side to herbal medicines is that if it were to be mass produced it would result in destroying rainforests, i mean how do you think the natives of the amazon rainforest for example deal with illness, they would use natural and herbal remedies, now if that were to be implanted upon the world it would end up cleaning out the rainforests and there would be less crop that can be used to create these ''special remedies'',

However the herbal medicines at times are stronger and quicker at curing certain pains or diseases, but i guess it all comes down to whether you would be willing to experiment and see what suits you best, if you are willing to try it then it could work for you, if not stick to the doctors, and prescribed drugs

blanka09 02-02-2005 01:48 PM

Of course Herbal medicines are good. They rarely involve side effects. It would even sometimes lead one to believe that the side effects the drugs have are just a way of making you come back to the hospital to get some drug or the other for THAT side effect.

Abdoun_bacK 02-02-2005 02:35 PM

ya...For example..I do not know if you have heard of an Acne medicine called Acutane...but many...many, people want it off the market. Even though it takes off the acne, it promotes very strong side affects, VERY strong side affects, such as depression, insomnia, balding, mood changes, verry irritated skin+very dry skin. Depression is a big factor in that medicine because many patients who took it became some what depressed

y_09 02-02-2005 03:27 PM

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blanka09 Posted on Feb. 02 2005,9:48
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Of course Herbal medicines are good. They rarely involve side effects. It would even sometimes lead one to believe that the side effects the drugs have are just a way of making you come back to the hospital to get some drug or the other for THAT side effect.
but you could use that same theory for herbal medicine aswell, despite having taken it and curing what ever problem they person had, it could leave them with a new problem, such as a body reaction to the herbal medicine itself or even a skin reaction, which could end up breaking out into a very bad skin reaction where it would have to be treated by most probably a prescribed cream, or a chemically developed cream

And certain herbs as Abdoun back has said can have pretty bad side effects
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Abdoun_bacK Posted on Feb. 02 2005,10:35
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For example..I do not know if you have heard of an Acne medicine called Acutane...but many...many, people want it
it promotes very strong side affects, VERY strong side affects, such as depression, insomnia, balding, mood
changes, verry irritated skin+very dry skin

need i say more ? :biggrin:

Abdoun_bacK 02-02-2005 05:09 PM

but if your talkin about herbal and only herbal no other medicine, because they may have some side affects that may help with the "stronger sickeness"...what i mean by this..and lets take this part serious for a second..Lets say you have a feeling that your goan throw up, and huuuuge stomach ache, if you take Sage..which is an herb
(That i take when this happends)...it mixes up the affect in your stomach and it makes you poop all that stuff that you were goan barh...which i would highly take, instead of throwing up

SBYRD5 02-02-2005 05:11 PM

speaking of janitors being replaced...

I've heard word of.......this robo ball device...that can clean floors........well yeah....

My goal Blanka09..is to find the cure for mental retardation....

.....oh yeah the man that cures STD's and HIV..and AIDs oh man legend..for alifetime..

but there is no cure for AIDS...there never will be...

I assure you that.. :dozingoff:

blanka09 02-02-2005 05:26 PM

Open your eyes man... there are already supplements that you can take that would suppress the Virus. Look at Magic Johnson... he's not dead yet and he's quite healthy for someone with the HIV virus.

It's the sense that... oh if we come out with this cure right now, and these ppl take it, then we don't make any profits off our supplementary pills that help reduce or suppress the disease anymore. Think along those lines.

I'm not saying there's a cure... but you never know. With the way the society is, you just never know.

Abdoun_bacK 02-03-2005 06:37 AM

@sbyrd...there are medicines that strongly nuetralize the virus, but the problem is and always will be...ss$

y_09 02-03-2005 08:40 AM

[quote:post_uid0="blanka09"]Open your eyes man... there are already supplements that you can take that would suppress the Virus. Look at Magic Johnson... he's not dead yet and he's quite healthy for someone with the HIV virus.

It's the sense that... oh if we come out with this cure right now, and these ppl take it, then we don't make any profits off our supplementary pills that help reduce or suppress the disease anymore. Think along those lines.

I'm not saying there's a cure... but you never know. With the way the society is, you just never know.[/quote]
Of course there are ''supplementary pills'' for diseases such as hiv, aids, but there are also cures for those diseases being made like i had said its all down to research, and people volenterring to be apart of those investigations..
Most ''supplementary pills'' consist of vitmains and minerals that have chemically been merged, and the problem with those is too get the balance right otherwise addicition can become another problem

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SBYRD5 Posted on Feb. 03 2005,1:11
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but there is no cure for AIDS...there never will be...

I assure you that..
Respect yourself protect yourself :biggrin:



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Abdoun_bacK Posted on Feb. 03 2005,2:37
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@sbyrd...there are medicines that strongly nuetralize the virus, but the problem is and always will be...ss$
You can never have money problems with regard to health if your with the NHS over here in the Uk, the government pays for it, a downside thought is the waiting lists and having to wait to get specific medicine within a certain period of time, otherwise the patients are given the oppertunity to go to private clinics and the government pays out for that, but if your not with the NHS you got to cough out the cash :biggrin:




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