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DARKPICCOLO 10-22-2002 07:42 PM

i was just wondering which one is really the most dominant???
is it true that love conquers all? or what?

post your ideas here......and atleast give a reason

SSJKarma 10-22-2002 08:24 PM

in my opinion...

someone cannot HATE anyone, they can be angry at someone, but they cannot hate someone.
reason: a person who say that he HATE another person... will most likely forget about that person later on in his life ! so the person isn't HATING that other person cause is just PASSABLE ANGRYNESS !

so i think LOVE prevails in this cruel world !

sk8erfox805 10-22-2002 11:07 PM

love can forgive everything i think thats the most powerfull weapon in this world :D

SuperSonicX 10-23-2002 11:17 AM

Love is the strongest feeling..being loved or loving someone...can break even the biggest hate in the world..so i say yes love conquers all. I know it conquerd me at one time, heh.

Jr 10-23-2002 11:23 AM

[quote:post_uid0="SuperSonicX"]Love is the strongest feeling..being loved or loving someone...can break even the biggest hate in the world..so i say yes love conquers all. I know it conquerd me at one time, heh.[/quote]
Agreed

Everyone should know that love conquers hatred. There are some situations; however, where it seems that hatred prevails, but it may very well be that love was not present in that situation. Where there is love, there is no hatred

QUIET_KILLER 10-23-2002 11:25 AM

[color=blue:post_uid4][Now I can agree with this that love is a conquerer.Now if there was no love would we be here in this forum today. HmMmMm..........If you don't know what I mean ask me later on :lol: :biggrin:
However for those puzzles lover I just gave a a hint :biggrin: I gave like 4 of them.Well it's true if you love something then you cherish it while you have it.So if you really love something you will try not let anything bad happen to it.Also you will never leave it if you can.Love makes people do the strangest things.In fact love is so strong it would make a person go in a burning building to help his family out.His fellow man out of danger and many other peril's.I have to wonder if there was no love would the world stop functioning.Would the world get more cruel and vicious :shocked:[/color:post_uid4]

sk8erfox805 10-23-2002 12:39 PM

love really hurt sometimes ??? :(

princevegetam 10-23-2002 01:14 PM

hatred will always win.

without hatred, i would have no identity.
without hatred, i would accomplish nothing.
without hatred, i would be weak.
without hatred, i would be a fool.

akuma_forever 10-23-2002 01:31 PM

okkkkkaaaaaaayyyy.................

ZeroEna 10-23-2002 01:49 PM

neither. I feel no emotion. neither love nor hate.
but perhaps love most likely.

TarkanX 10-23-2002 02:31 PM

SNiper shooting, war on Iraq only for oil, gangs, drugs, guns, beer, sides, terrorist attacks, selfishness(someone not giving to another), racism, sexism, religion abuse, homosexual abuse, nukes, weapons, biological weapons....

and Love has...


Hatred is winning, and it seems that way, if this world doesn't come to its senses, and think that everyone is one, that we dont need to be divided intro groups

kingofhearts 10-23-2002 02:33 PM

love and hate are one in the same they are both strong emotions that make u act in a different way :D

princevegetam 10-23-2002 03:27 PM

[quote:post_uid0="TarkanX"]SNiper shooting, war on Iraq only for oil, gangs, drugs, guns, beer, sides, terrorist attacks, selfishness(someone not giving to another), racism, sexism, religion abuse, homosexual abuse, nukes, weapons, biological weapons....

and Love has...


Hatred is winning, and it seems that way, if this world doesn't come to its senses, and think that everyone is one, that we dont need to be divided intro groups[/quote]
exactly, my point.

hatred always prevails and love accomplishes the little things that have little significance.

can love save global warming? can love save those ppl who were killed by terrorists? can love save racism? can love save the weak? can love save the disabled? can love save me?

the answer is of course: no

asking these questions is not too much for love. if love truly prevailed, then it should be able to save everything. hatred will always win. hatred will always drive me towards my goal

SSJKarma 10-23-2002 03:27 PM

[quote:post_uid0="TarkanX"]SNiper shooting, war on Iraq only for oil, gangs, drugs, guns, beer, sides, terrorist attacks, selfishness(someone not giving to another), racism, sexism, religion abuse, homosexual abuse, nukes, weapons, biological weapons....

and Love has...[/quote]
Love as...
PATIONS, JOY, LAUGH, and every other emotions that makes you HAPPY !

example:
SNIPER SHOOTING = hatred for something or is it... it could be him LOVING to shoot people
WAR on IRAQ only for oil = hatred for something or is it... it could be for a GOOD cause !
GANGS = hatred ? we are a community, GANG, are we bad ?
DRUGS = hatred ? those who LOVE that do it for FUN, all synonymes of LOVE
GUNS = on can do it for PROTECTION, i don't think you protect someone you hate !
BEER = same as DRUGS, you love it if you take it !
SIDES = i don't understand that point !
TERRORIST ATTACKS = again, they could have GOOD principles and STILL WE take them as TERRORIST !
SELFISHNESS = again, if you know the person is gonna break it for sure... i too would be selfish !
RACISM = that is pure hatred i think !
SEXISM = if i LOVE the women and i don't want her to be HURT... i'll be sexist for sure !
NUKES = base, it was for GOOD utilisation ! just like the TNT !
WEAPONS = just like GUNS... if i had to protect something i LOVE... i would resolve to weapons !
BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS = that's not a big deal... some biological WEAPON are good !

see, every single thing you'll say is based on people thought... like i say, there is no HATRED for anything ! it is just LOVE for something that makes us do things that HURT peoples.

example:
your girlfriend gets shot in knee, you know the next shot will kill her ! then you get your gun too and shoot the other one before he had time to shoot ! you killed him, even if it's not what you wanted. then what ? are you a murdered ? no, you did what you did, not by HATRED... but by GOODNESS to save the live of one you LOVE !

HATES or LOVE = LOVE win by a long shot !

Sportschick155 10-23-2002 03:36 PM

Well...im gonna hafta disagree one dat wit sonic and Jr cause we all kno dat love always ends up to be hatred..at de end someone is always gonna get hurt..no matter wat..
???

princevegetam 10-23-2002 04:14 PM

*sigh* why do i even bother with these optimists who deny the truth and live in their own fantasies....

QUIET_KILLER 10-23-2002 04:31 PM

If you knowith the answer to the ?s of that are implied.Then do you even bother tis would make sense would it not :shocked: Anyway continue to cry vegetam :biggrin:
Mega spammer I mean come on you have 1000+ already :lol:
J?K ok Vegetam.Also if hate conquers all tmyapp why did you make this game.HmMm.. thats what I though :biggrin: Also if you hated this game would you have made it tmyapp.See the point this topic very general.It can't be answered by any one alright but feel free to keep on trying :lol: 1 day every one is going to get a answer heh*

Sportschick155 10-23-2002 04:37 PM

..?

10-23-2002 04:46 PM

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]hatred will always win.

without hatred, i would have no identity.
without hatred, i would accomplish nothing.
without hatred, i would be weak.
without hatred, i would be a fool.[/quote]
because the point is ..u have no damn life... :buttrock:

you are interested in all the bad stuff .. :p

DARKPICCOLO 10-23-2002 06:58 PM

i agree that love is a strong emotion....but when you think about it hate seems even stronger some times.

some times people just hate you for no apparent reason.
weather it be where your from or what color you are.

some people would argue by saying (what about when you fall in love at first site?)

to those people i ask ( are you really in love with the person or just focusing on outter beauty?)

SSJKarma 10-23-2002 11:50 PM

ever heard of balance guys ?

LOVE vs HATE = 50/50

sometimes hate become bigger but every time that happen love become bigger in another domain !
example:
- you hate maths in school
- but you love when the class is over

- you love shooting at people with a sniper gun
- but you hate getting captured by the cops ! :colgate:

- you love your wife
- but you hate his mistress :biggrin:

you see, it's all in the balance !
now, i agree that those are PURE emotion and EMOTIONs cannot really be compared as it is different for each person !

Ludacris 10-24-2002 07:54 AM

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]hatred will always win.

without hatred, i would have no identity.
without hatred, i would accomplish nothing.
without hatred, i would be weak.
without hatred, i would be a fool.[/quote]
:shocked:

how can U like hatred.........love is better.......yeah love hurts sometimes but still love is the thing that can stop hatred......

pip99 10-24-2002 01:07 PM

love leads 2 hate.. so i think both dpeneding on how they turn out

Ludacris 10-24-2002 01:12 PM

[quote:post_uid0="pip99"]love leads 2 hate.. so i think both dpeneding on how they turn out[/quote]
hum.........that's pretty intelligent and true......... :biggrin:

pip99 10-24-2002 01:13 PM

Quote:

hum.........that's pretty intelligent and true.........
thx... :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

sk8erfox805 10-24-2002 04:01 PM

just doont think about hating.. :D

Ludacris 10-24-2002 04:19 PM

[quote:post_uid0="sk8erfox805"]just doont think about hating.. :D[/quote]
well we can live ewithout wait and we can live without love either.........it's all about balance.......like Karma said 50/50

sk8erfox805 10-24-2002 05:09 PM

noo!! its all about loving hahahaha jk :laugh:

TarkanX 10-24-2002 06:12 PM

This world is built on revenge. If you hit someone, they'll hit you back, and everyone knows it(yes even you Mastaq).

Karma, usually when people say love, they mean like, compassion, not hatred, what you said was towards hatred "love when class is over" that's not love, its more of hate.

Quote:

you love shooting at people with a sniper gun
- but you hate getting captured by the cops
That is both hatred. Hatred is when you do something bad, though you love killing people, that is doing something bad.

Roll 10-24-2002 10:23 PM

I don't know what I can say in this argument. I experienced a lot of love in life, but seen a lot more hatred. Thinking of how people change in decision-making, belief's(mostly lies), and attitude during life; I can only get one phrase into this which supports nothing except the truth. It is this:

Boku-tachi wa ikiru hodo ni, nakushi-te'ku sukoshi zutsu.
Itsuwari ya uso wo matoi, tachisukumu, koe mo naku.

[i:post_uid12][color=blue:post_uid12]As we live on, we lose a little bit more. Shrouded in falsehoods and lies, we stand frozen to the spot, unable to cry out....[/i:post_uid12][/color:post_uid12]

Sportschick155 10-24-2002 10:42 PM

...huh?

DX Zero 10-24-2002 11:11 PM

... i dont think either one of them is stronger
love is just... shadowed by hate
it means.. there is still love in everyone
and.. hate is covering it ???

well.. if i put it that way, love has more volume than hate that is the surface area :biggrin:

SSJKarma 10-25-2002 12:08 AM

TarkanX: we don't understand each other !

you're more talking about GOODNESS VS EVILNESS... the thing is, we are talking about what YOU LOVE to do and what you HATE to do ! that's very different things !

- YOU LOVE shooting people (when you love it, i don't think you can hate at the same time)
- but you hate when you're getting cough by cops as you cannot shoot anymore.

same as you in real life TarkanX..
YOU LOVE that game you cannot hate it more or you wouldn't come in anymore !
but you hate ##### that post stupid sh|t !

what else can i say...
LOVE can be even if you do something bad...
do you think a robber will rob a bank if he hates doing so ?
it's like asking you to HATE your mom and dad when you actually love them !

no, you're more talking about GOOD and EVIL ! that is not the point of this thread !

anyway, everything is a balance. 50/50, you do something then something else come up ! ACTION/REACTION

you hate school (ACTION)
you love when it's over (REACTION)

it all come to this as its YOU the PERSON who decide which will be stronger, but everytime you make one stronger, the second become stronger somewhere else !

DARKPICCOLO 10-25-2002 02:07 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Roll"]As we live on, we lose a little bit more. Shrouded in falsehoods and lies, we stand frozen to the spot, unable to cry out....[/quote]
whoa.. im.............speachless

princevegetam 10-25-2002 02:46 PM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]TarkanX: we don't understand each other !

you're more talking about GOODNESS VS EVILNESS... the thing is, we are talking about what YOU LOVE to do and what you HATE to do ! that's very different things !

- YOU LOVE shooting people (when you love it, i don't think you can hate at the same time)
- but you hate when you're getting cough by cops as you cannot shoot anymore.

same as you in real life TarkanX..
YOU LOVE that game you cannot hate it more or you wouldn't come in anymore !
but you hate ##### that post stupid sh|t !

what else can i say...
LOVE can be even if you do something bad...
do you think a robber will rob a bank if he hates doing so ?
it's like asking you to HATE your mom and dad when you actually love them !

no, you're more talking about GOOD and EVIL ! that is not the point of this thread !

anyway, everything is a balance. 50/50, you do something then something else come up ! ACTION/REACTION

you hate school (ACTION)
you love when it's over (REACTION)

it all come to this as its YOU the PERSON who decide which will be stronger, but everytime you make one stronger, the second become stronger somewhere else ![/quote]
do you HAVE to use all those exclamation marks in your posts? calm down for once

SBYRD5 10-25-2002 03:02 PM

I'm going to say love because love can become a form of fear.

Example=

I was going to lose so one I loved from a fight.If I fight with love to protect that person I could become stronger than when I harness my hatred towards one person.

Example of hatred=

Ok this guy cutted(This means to disrespect from were I'm from) on you everyday then he picks a fight with you.When you think about everytime he looked down on you.You would probaly feel a very strong rage.Hatred only blinds you,and makes you a fool.

If you can keep a focused mind with hatred then that could be a stronger power than love,but if your hatred is focused it's not hate then,but instead becomes a motivative power.

That didn't all make sense,but thats how I feel about the subject.

Really when I fight for something I love I never lose...

Ludacris 10-25-2002 03:17 PM

well I kicked somebody's ass once cuz he insulted my gurlfriend and I was so pissed I fought like crazy........U know sometimes when you're so pissed U punch a wall but U don't fell the pain.........but after a while U feel it and it hurts...... I think love is what control or provoke hatred .......I think that's what Sbyrd said but I just wanted to tell it again in my way

machine1 10-25-2002 04:24 PM

ummm ja rule said it best: pain is love :D

Ludacris 10-25-2002 04:27 PM

[quote:post_uid0="machine1"]ummm ja rule said it best: pain is love :D[/quote]
lol.........and he also says: IT'S MURDA!!!!!!!!

machine1 10-25-2002 04:28 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Ludacris"][quote:post_uid0="machine1"]ummm ja rule said it best: pain is love :D[/quote]
lol.........and he also says: IT'S MURDA!!!!!!!![/quote]
lol ludacris :lol:


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