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Dan Hibiki 06-05-2002 04:10 PM

Is it possible for a human to travel at the speed of light, despite absorbing millions of joules of energy which would make the person spontaneously explode, by the reference point of an individual standing still on Earth?

SSJKarma 06-05-2002 05:42 PM

Mentally yes...
physically no...

Dan Hibiki 06-05-2002 06:36 PM

Mentally yes? What?

Jr 06-05-2002 08:38 PM

i think that it is possible........ :dontgetit:

gotenks007 06-05-2002 09:25 PM

who kno's

Warmor 06-05-2002 09:26 PM

Hmmm...good point.....

Roll 06-05-2002 10:02 PM

It pretty much depends on how the being traveled. Could you at least clarify that?

MacDougall 06-05-2002 11:21 PM

I don't think it's possible.......but will we ever know????? probably not.......

Dan Hibiki 06-06-2002 04:52 AM

The person is traveling by conventional, get-from-point-a-to-point-b-by-traveling-inbetween-them-method.

Does anybody know Einstein's theory of Relativity, or do I need to post it?

Roll 06-06-2002 01:16 PM

Well, I have a hypothesis. You can go at the speed of light, if you have the right acceleration, balance, control, and direction and angle. If your going down a very steep hill approximately 2,000 miles high (which is possible) and your going on a bus/car/motorcycle you can reach the speed of light as soon as you are 1 mile away from the ground (if you go perfectly straight), and as soon as you do, Like you said before Dan, The person would explode. Although, my real hypothesis, is that the person would only appear to explode, but instead, the person would break up into tiny bits of material, that would travel through the space and time holes, until it stops moving at the speed of light, in which that current moment, the being would end up in another period of time depending on how fast they went, and how long they went. Either that, or the person would be lost forever, but would be living his/her life in emptyness. That's just a hypothesis, though.

Physicals r scary 06-06-2002 01:22 PM

mass falls until it reaches a certain speed appropiate for mass and then cant accelerate more than the current velocity

Roll 06-06-2002 01:29 PM

Well, I didn't specify a specific weight now did I?

Physicals r scary 06-06-2002 01:58 PM

http://www.gamerz232.org/images/dumbass.jpg

the weight doesnt matter period, a object thats a ton couldnt reach the speed of light falling two thousand miles straight down, it would gain velocity, and then stay at the max velocity when it gets to it

Dan Hibiki 06-06-2002 02:38 PM

physicals, quit making a dumbass out of yourself.

Okay, here is Einstein's theory of Relativity, because nobody seems to know it.

Speed and time are connected. The faster you go, the slower time progresses to an outside observer of you. This means that effectively what is one day to you if you travel near the speed of light is actually 1 year to them, making you effectively travel forward in time, and by the perspective of others not actually travel at the speed of light.

Also connected to this is that the perception of objects is connected with speed. As one goes faster the perception of objects is stretched, making objects appear much longer than they are.

Now can we have a serious debate?

TarkanX 06-06-2002 04:00 PM

It's not possible, I mean it doesn't take long before you have to take a good breather. Imagine traveling at the speed of light. *goes a short distance* *heart attack*

And imagine a test rocket used for training to go in to speed. These things travel so fast they make you dizzy. This is no where near the speed of light. Imagine what would happen if you traveled at the speed of light.... Your brain would melt, your blatter would burn due to oer-calorie burning.

I don't know though. It could happen. Not likely.

Dan Hibiki 06-06-2002 04:39 PM

I just used a person in the example, but let's make it inanimate so that there are no nauseating problems with it. Is it possible for an object to reach the speed to light (other than light itself) by the perspective of an outside observer? Also not taking to account it would explode from the energy absorbed?

SSJKarma 06-07-2002 02:19 PM

i think it will be possible someday near the 5xxx year future ! :lol:

otherwise i think it is simply not possible...

by mantally, i was meaning the miind of an individual can travel at that speed !

TarkanX 06-07-2002 05:05 PM

Well of course you can think of traveling at the speed of light, anyone can.

*thinks of a topic to follow through*

Dan Hibiki 06-07-2002 09:35 PM

:plain: Did anybody read my explanation of Einstein's theory of Relativity, or are you all effectively ignoring me?

06-07-2002 11:23 PM

Just a question, how fast are gallexies moving appart?

fear_tetsuo 06-08-2002 04:35 PM

Nice topic. I think it might be possible to travel at the speed of light, just as long as we have the technology to do so. It would also depend on if the person could survive the ride at the speed of light. If there was an invention that would prevent you from feeling and being effected from the g-forces of accelerating to the speed of light then I dont see why it wouldnt be impossible. And 2000warrior, our galaxy and another galaxy are traveling towards one another. So in about 3 million years we will be colliding with another galaxy and one of 2 things might happen:1) If we are on the opposite side of the galaxy then we will be thrown into the black emptyness of space 2) if we are on the side of the colliding galaxies then we will be caught into the black hole of the colliding galaxy. Since every galaxy has a black hole, our black hole and the black hole of the colliding galaxy will merge to form an even bigger more destructive black hole and earth will be sucked into it. First the oceans will evaporate into space then wel will burn from the heated gases from around the black hole and eventually get sucked into the black hole. Well I got alittle off track but why not mention it.

weezer 06-08-2002 04:43 PM

einstein?....pfft........


i'm on summer vacation........well anywho....... anything can go at the speed of light but only for a short time......how long does it take for sun rays to reach the earth? i forget.....8 seconds or eight minutes? but things would melt or explode or desinegrate.......its impossible for matter such as these to go at such speed........how fast is the speed of light anywho? 93,000,000 miles a second or something?.......oh well........ when's the next time one of us is gonna be traveling at the speed of light?

Dan Hibiki 06-09-2002 06:36 AM

:plain: Yep, I'm being ignored.

06-11-2002 09:03 PM

I just realised i didn't log in, but meh....

Ok, here's what i don't get.

Speed = Distance divided by Time, Right?

Therefore how can speed affect time, if speed itsself is a measurment of time? You are changing the very thing it's being measured by.

It's like saying the longer something is, the more an inch is worth.

skate919 06-15-2002 07:55 PM

Since this topic hasn't gone anywhere, I'm gonna say something.

A neutron star weighs 1 billion tons per teaspoon, and is only 10 miles across. A black hole is infinitely more dense. So basically what we are made up of is space and gamma rays can pass right through our bodies and the rest of the earth for that matter, because of our miniscule amount of density compared to other matter. So, that means that basically, we do not exist compared to other matter. This is a fact. I'd like people to discuss this.

Ready?


<span style='font-size:24pt;line-height:100%'>DISCUSS!!!</span>

06-15-2002 09:11 PM

It may be a miniscule amount, but that dosn't deny us existence. Even if something is infinitely small, it is still there.

DX Zero 06-15-2002 09:48 PM

we are bacterias to the world!! :0 :D

oO_HoTSauCeOo 06-15-2002 09:50 PM

Argh my head....I need tylenol so much calculations...so much to read :(

fear tetsuo 06-15-2002 10:20 PM

[quote:post_uid0="DX Zero"]we are bacterias to the world!! :0 :D[/quote]
I wouldnt say we are bacteria, i would say we are more like a virus.I am gonna quote the matrix "We move from one area to another consuming all the natural resouces until there is nothing left."

fear tetsuo 06-15-2002 10:23 PM

Dude you guys think about this, in about 3 million years the earth will most likely be destroyed.

viper2040 06-16-2002 06:20 PM

Fear, i believe the word ur looking for is parasite. Viri (the plural of virus, and also the plural latin word for man :D ) are basically particles which have not been classified as either living or non living. They cannot perform any functions of the living on their own, but arent quite inanimate :p .



[b:post_uid1]BACK ON TOPIC[/b:post_uid1]
I believe that Dan Hibiki is hitting on an interesting point. How can one appear, to observers, to go the speed of light, when the faster he goes, the slower time goes? Most likely the rate at which time slows down is exponential, meaning that the higher the speed, the faster time is slowing down.
So theoretically, time would slow down enough at the speed of light so u would not appear to go the speed of light.


as for you skeptics about this time slowing down thing, Humans are arrogant, and that is why u are baffled. Humans will never be able to understand things, and that is because we are human.


[b:post_uid1]FOR EXAMPLE: say a person can walk 5 mph. a train can go 300 mph. so a person walking on a train would go 305 mph relative to observers. a beam of light travels at 186,000 mps. So, now put a lantern on top of that train. How fast does the beam of light go, relative to observers? NOT 186,000 mps+300 mph, but rather 186,000 mps. time has slowed down.[/b:post_uid1]

skate919 06-17-2002 07:53 AM

[quote:post_uid0="itssounfair"]It may be a miniscule amount, but that dosn't deny us existence. Even if something is infinitely small, it is still there.[/quote]
I didn't say it denied our existence. What I DID say, was that we are just matter to other matter. We exist as beings, but your computer in front of you does not exist when you compare it to other matter. It is just space.

skate919 06-17-2002 08:00 AM

Oops sorry. Delete this post please.

skate919 06-17-2002 08:06 AM

[quote:post_uid0="viper2040"]Fear, i believe the word ur looking for is parasite. Viri (the plural of virus, and also the plural latin word for man :D ) are basically particles which have not been classified as either living or non living. They cannot perform any functions of the living on their own, but arent quite inanimate :p .



BACK ON TOPIC
I believe that Dan Hibiki is hitting on an interesting point. How can one appear, to observers, to go the speed of light, when the faster he goes, the slower time goes? Most likely the rate at which time slows down is exponential, meaning that the higher the speed, the faster time is slowing down.
So theoretically, time would slow down enough at the speed of light so u would not appear to go the speed of light.


as for you skeptics about this time slowing down thing, Humans are arrogant, and that is why u are baffled. Humans will never be able to understand things, and that is because we are human.


FOR EXAMPLE: say a person can walk 5 mph. a train can go 300 mph. so a person walking on a train would go 305 mph relative to observers. a beam of light travels at 186,000 mps. So, now put a lantern on top of that train. How fast does the beam of light go, relative to observers? NOT 186,000 mps+300 mph, but rather 186,000 mps. time has slowed down.[/quote]
(sorry for doubling, but)
Silly Viper. The lamp is on top of the train. When we say speed of light, we mean that the light ITSELF is traveling at that speed, the light is not traveling with the train inside the lamp (even though it probably is inside of it for a little bit). The train would not make any difference at all. Besides, usually trains only go 40 miles an hour, not 300. Arrogance has nothing to do with it. It is just that humans sometimes don't have the capacity to comprehend some things. For example: At the center of the universe, there is said to be a black hole containing a neutron star. This used to be what contained all of the universe before the big bang. Another example: Other organisms are oblivious to us because they don't know we exist. What if we are oblivious to some bigger or smaller universe. There could be a tiny universe in your french fry or we could be tiny organisms in another huge realm. What is the universe contained in? These questions we will probably never comprehend in our brief lifetime.

fear tetsuo 06-17-2002 10:19 PM

I dont think there is a black hole at the center of the universe, but I know that there is a black hole in every single galaxy in the universe. And that there is a relationship between the size of the black hole and the size of the galaxy, the bigger the galaxy-the bigger the black hole. There is a black hole in our milky way galaxy that has recently become active again.

Jhteck29 06-18-2002 03:00 PM

Ah, but one must remember that with every black hole, there is a white hole somewhere that expels out whatever it sucks in. So, the question shouldn't be if there is a black hole at the center, but rather, if there is, where would the wormhole connecting it to the white hole expel it? For if it's at the center, it's only possible for it to be connected to a separate universe, in which case, the black hole would only be the center of a universe, not the universe.

SBYRD5 06-18-2002 03:08 PM

SERIOUS TO TRAVEL AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT YOU WOULD NEED A BODY THAT COULD TAKE HIGH LEVELS NEWTON G's. MEANING GRAVITY. SUCH AN ACCLARATION WOULD CAUSE A HUMAN BEING TO DETEARTE. (SO THE FORUMALA FOR MOTION IS MASS TIMES ACCLERATION) ALSO INTERIA WOULD HVE TO BE ON YOUR SIDE. THAT IS A TOUCHING SUBJECT. ;)

SBYRD5 06-18-2002 03:17 PM

OH UNIVERSE MATTERS OK! A SUPER NOVA OFTEN IS THE CAUSE OF BLACK HOLES. THE STAGE BEFORE THE BLACK HOLE IS THE WHITE DRAWF. WHICH HAS AMAZING HIGH GRAVITY.
SCIENTIST GUESS TH SUN WILL INPLODE AN FROM A GAINT BLACK HOLE THAT WILL SUCK IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM. BUT THIS EVENT IS FAR OFF. IN ABOUT 3.4672222......TRILLION YEARS THIS FUTURE WILL BE. BUT BY THEN THE WORLD POPULTION WILL HAVE DIED OUT FROM THE SAME EVENT THAT KILLED THE DINOSAURS ,OR POLUATION ,OR MAYBE THE POEPLE WILL MOVE TO ANOTHER PLANET. THINK ABOUT IT A REAL LIVE STAR TREK. :p

ZeroEna 06-18-2002 04:38 PM

On the sibject of Black and White holes So basicly there is or hypotheticly speaking another universe paralel to ours and again hypotheticly Black holes would be the gateway to another dimension in which would be the total opposite of ours like for example other alien life forms would be on Earth and we would be the ones observing it and abducting people for research. So if we were able to survive the straining effects of a black hole and exit out the white hole safely we would be able to meet different intellegent life yet we would be stuck there because white holes only shoot out the exit into the other universe but lets just say there are black holes in that dimesion too so in actuality these extraterestrials could be comeing from a white hole in our universe so basicly these Black and White holes are more like gateways to and from our dimension of course this is only a theory. So.........
WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE THINK? :D :p

SBYRD5 06-18-2002 06:22 PM

Well said!! :0 , but sounds like the plot to the movie "THE ONE" ???


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