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SBYRD5 01-09-2003 10:25 AM

It's an open discusion if you feel smart just type something smart.If you feel special just Say something a special kid would say.

Let's begin with the Big Bang Theory.How much do most of you forum junkies know about that.

01-09-2003 10:40 AM

[i]The Big Bang Theory is the dominant scientific theory about the origin of the universe. According to the big bang, the universe was created sometime between 10 billion and 20 billion years ago from a cosmic explosion that hurled matter and in all directions.
In 1927, the Belgian priest Georges Lema

Jr 01-09-2003 10:43 AM

copy & paste.......*cough* :D

I feel special

01-09-2003 10:53 AM

lol :D

SBYRD5 01-09-2003 10:59 AM

Oh and what measurement of speed is each galaxy traveling at away from this once so called small point?

Also there was once nothing else out there but one small point.Hmm the gravity of that point must of been amazingily dense.

Since this is "Formation Of The Universe".What are Quasars?

MIG 01-09-2003 11:42 AM

i think that the big bang theory was only about our galaxy since dosent the universe apply to everything whearas our galaxy was created by a massive reaction which caused all of the planets and the sun to be formed

SolidSnake76 01-09-2003 12:13 PM

quasars. extremly fast spinning star that only shines on one side, causing it to blink.

anyone can explain red shifts?

MIG 01-09-2003 12:40 PM

red shift, in astronomy, the systematic increase in the wavelength of all light received from a celestial object; it is observed in the shifting of individual lines in the spectrum of the object toward the red, or longer wavelength, end of the visible spectrum. The effect was discovered by V. M. Slipher of Lowell Observatory. Some red shifts are the result of the Doppler effect, i.e., of the relative motion of the earth and the object away from each other. However, all distant galaxies show a red shift proportional to their distance from the earth as a result of the general expansion of the universe (see Hubble's law); the most distant known galaxies have red shifts that indicate they are moving away from the earth at speeds approaching that of light. Red shifts are also produced by gravitation in accordance with the general theory of relativity. Because of the strong gravitational field, the frequency of the light emitted by atoms in a dense, compact star will be lower and the wavelengths consequently longer; such effects have been observed in white dwarfs. See cosmology.

:D

SBYRD5 01-09-2003 12:52 PM

Not bad....

Now explain Stellar Magnitude....

Unknown666 01-09-2003 01:20 PM

Muahahahahaha... :laugh: What are you talking about, man!
The world is still in its earl 6000 years, MAN!

SolidSnake76 01-09-2003 01:26 PM

the brightness of stars. goes like this:

+10 [dimmest]
+9
+8
+7
+6
+5
+4
+3
+2
+1
0
-1
-2
-3
-4
-5
-6 [brightest]

now explain the life cycle of a star.

SolidSnake76 01-09-2003 01:35 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Unknown666"]Muahahahahaha... :laugh: What are you talking about, man!
The world is still in its earl 6000 years, MAN![/quote]
so stupid.

thw world is 4.6 billion years old. sun: 5 billion. universe: 15 billion.

do sum research for once guy.

Unknown666 01-09-2003 01:36 PM

What the freakin hell are those numbers suppose to mean! MAN! hehehe... :laughlong:

Unknown666 01-09-2003 01:37 PM

If you did your research, those numbers aren't accurate, muahahahaha... :laugh:

Ludacris 01-09-2003 04:19 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Unknown666"]If you did your research, those numbers aren't accurate, muahahahaha... :laugh:[/quote]
hum.......first of.....don't double post and second.......what Snake said gotta be right cuz Dinosaurs have been here since millions of years ago........6000 thousand years?......plz....... your number ain't accurate :biggrin:

SolidSnake76 01-09-2003 04:34 PM

unknown do u even go to school or have a tutor?

those numbers are the magnitude of a stars level of brightness. and explain how those numbers aint accurate. scientist said on PBS and in school textbooks that those events happen at the periods listed. i dont know what ur reading[or if u read at all] but i know i right.

MasterX05 01-09-2003 04:34 PM

I am in biology1 Honers :biggrin: and our teacher said that humans and Chimpanzee are almost 98% alike. We have the same ancestors but bout Millon of years ago they splited in evloution. Meaning one path rose to be man and the other Chimpanzee. Weird stuff I know but back to the topic we all know the big bang was nothing but gas and stars forming the sun itslef and the other nine planets. They say during the process of cooling and forming earth was hit smashed by......anyway that piece fromed in to a small ball of dust and rock knowing as our moon. And if I am wroung then forget u :angryfire: j/k :biggrin:

SolidSnake76 01-09-2003 04:43 PM

that one i strongly believe too but its uncertain if it happened. what else u pple know?

except unknown666.

01-09-2003 05:06 PM

Sun is 5 billion years old...

and its not the biggest star..it looks like but it isn't..there used to be two more planets in the universe but they blew up and then sun was born ....


:buttrock:
btw my surgery on monday :laughlong:

coolplayer2K2 01-09-2003 07:00 PM

i feel specal

"mwhahahahhaha"

SBYRD5 01-10-2003 02:49 AM

The Universe in age ranges from 15-20 billion years old so snake is correct.

Life Cycle of Stars=
Nebula
Protostar(opitonal Brown drawf)
Sun
Red Giant
White Drawf
Black drawf(Black hole...intense gravity)

How much do you kids know about Brown Dwarfs.(Cool Stars...not black dwarfs in the "Wizard of Oz")

Tantum 01-10-2003 09:28 AM

I find it hard to believe that the universe was created that way.

two 4 dimensional brines collide and create a 5 dimensional universe? sounds kinda uneventful to me. :dozingoff:

And anyone who believe the load of crap the bible tells you is even more rediculous.

oh yeah, dwarf stars are not black holes.

when a star collapses, it creates a large gravity field. the more massful the star, the more massful the gravity.

when Sol collapses, it will just become a puny little dwarf star. A bigger star, like Vega, or Rigel, would create a much more massive gravity field.

bloodpack 01-10-2003 09:45 AM

[quote:post_uid0="Tantum"]And anyone who believe the load of crap the bible tells you is even more rediculous.[/quote]
maybe ridiculous but the question as to what omnipotent force made all fo these events to happpen remains a mystery...

what is the cause of the big bang?

scientists only gave the technical process of THE BIG BANG but not the main initiating cause

ponder on that .... :buttrock:

Unknown666 01-10-2003 11:42 AM

Oh bullshi.t! The world a billion years old, that's your belief, man. But the World is really about 6000 years old, man. The reason why you guys think that it is about billions or millions of years old is because of science. They only accept sciene. Well, let me tell you booooys, science is a Son of a Pig. Don't believe everything science tells you, Mon. I heard that they use carbon whatever to study the earth, and sometimes that carbon whatever isn't accurate. Notice how they say, millions or billions. They're not sure. Heck, man, they probably studied those asteriods that fell here on earth. And you know that those asteriod are billions or millions year old. But I agree strongly with what zanrel once told me. He said when God created heavens and earth, the trees and everything else in it were made great. Meaning, they were huge and probably of old. And that is what I think too, man. But billions and millions year old, that's your belief. But the only thing that is for sure, is nothing's for sure. hehehe... :laughlong:

SolidSnake76 01-10-2003 12:18 PM

A SCENARIO FOR THE BIRTH OF CIVILIZATION
About 12000 years ago, climatic shifts created open woodlands with nuts that could be harvested and grasses that had the potential to be manipulated and eventually domesticated - dependent upon human influence. Warmer winters would have made year-round settlement in lower areas where grasses grew in abundance possible. Technology toward plant processing equipment such as sickle blades and grinding stones were adopted. At this time, permanent settled hamlets and villages began to spread as well paving the way for the emergence of agriculture. The earliest settlements were found in the Levant and the western foothills of the Zagros Mountains in Turkey. Wild wheat and barley grew particularly well in these regions.

By 9000 years ago people in these regions subsisted on a variety of plants and nuts. These increasingly became more important in the diet and the dependence upon these resources was well established. The transitional phase during which people lived in small yet settled villages is considered to the Natufian Culture. Villages with circular, stone-walled structures with increasing populations were typical. Circular houses and circular arrangements of houses can indicate an egalitarian society. Kent Flannery has addressed the significance of circular architecture in contrast to rectangular types of buildings. Yet, some of the latest and largest Natufian sites and cemeteries contained considerable evidence for the emergence of hierarchical structures. Seashells, obsidian and stone bowls were apparently part of an emerging trade system in the region as well.

By 7600 B.C. to 6000 B.C. sites with evidence of horticulture were present in an ever expanding geographic range. Sites such as Mureybet and Tell Abu Hureyra as well as Jericho can be thought of as the earliest known truly agricultural villages. The remains of domesticated einkorn wheat at Mureybet are of particular note. Hunting of animals such as gazelles was still important at sites such as Abu Hureyra until 6500 B.C. when people there began to herd sheep and goats and rely heavily upon cereal crops.

The earliest farming community in the Zagros Mountains was Jarmo in northeastern Iraq. Barley, wheat and several large-seeded annual legumes were cultivated and sheep and goats were herded. Dating at Jarmo is problematic but it appears to be relatively around the same time as that for the previous two sites.

Agriculture is also evidenced in the area of Khuzistan at a site known as Ali Kosh. This villages was occupied between 7200 B.C. and 6400 B.C. These was evidence that winter-grown wheat and barley were exploited. Ali Kosh supported about 100 people so represents a small village. Pottery has been found at Ali Kosh dating to the period between 6000 B.C. and 5500 B.C.

A more substantial type village type can be identified at Cayonu and Catal Huyuk in Turkey (Anatolia). Cayonu was occupied from about 7250 B.C. to 6700 B.C. and consisted mainly of residential buildings in rectangular plan. At least three of the room were larger and are suggestive of public functions rather than purely residential use. Catal Huyuk is clearly much larger and may have supported a population in excess of 4000 people. It was flourishing by 6000 B.C. and consisted on a honeycomb maze of mud brick houses. Most of these were of a standard size while others were much larger. Catal Huyuk was arranged as a series of house clusters, each with its own plaza or court (courts). Of particular interest are groups of rooms that were significantly distinct from residential structures. These shrines were associated with storerooms and elaborate murals and wall decorations. Black and red coloration was found throughout the site. There may be as many as 40 such shrines within the Catal Huyuk complex.

The crafting of specialized artifacts illustrate an emerging economic system within Catal Huyuk. Many of the raw materials found at the site had to be brought in from distant sources. Obsidian, which was locally available in large quantities, seems to have been an important mechanism to establish trade relationships outward from Catal Huyuk.

Following 6000 B.C. a cultural phase known as the Hassunan emerged. This phenomenon was represented by a distinct style of pottery and an assemblage of stone tools. With the elaboration of pottery styles, a new phase is recognized by 5600 B.C., the Samarran. It is at this time that stamp seals can be found. Stamp seals suggest private ownership. It is clear that craft specialists also are emerging as a well established part of Samarran lifeways. Shortly thereafter, a new phase known as the Halafian became more widespread. Construction techniques improved in buildings and cobbled streets between houses were constructed.

Between 5000 B.C. and 3750 B.C. the first cities emerged in the southern plains of Mesopotamia. Sites such as Ubaid and Eridu were followed by Ur-of-the-Chaldees and Sumer. The need for some form of centralized control must have been present as population dynamics changed. There was increased urbanization and concentration of wealth based on a mercantile trade during this period. Urbanization continued as a theme as the first true cities of Ur and Sumer arose along the banks of the Euphrates River. A real cultural explosion had brought us to the point of civilization where people sought to live together in larger and larger numbers with a measure of happiness.

anything else can be answered here: http://www.mc.maricopa.edu/dept/d10/...ilization.html

MasterX05 01-10-2003 01:42 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Unknown666"]Oh bullshi.t! The world a billion years old, that's your belief, man. But the World is really about 6000 years old, man. The reason why you guys think that it is about billions or millions of years old is because of science. They only accept sciene. Well, let me tell you booooys, science is a Son of a Pig. Don't believe everything science tells you, Mon. I heard that they use carbon whatever to study the earth, and sometimes that carbon whatever isn't accurate. Notice how they say, millions or billions. They're not sure. Heck, man, they probably studied those asteriods that fell here on earth. And you know that those asteriod are billions or millions year old. But I agree strongly with what zanrel once told me. He said when God created heavens and earth, the trees and everything else in it were made great. Meaning, they were huge and probably of old. And that is what I think too, man. But billions and millions year old, that's your belief. But the only thing that is for sure, is nothing's for sure. hehehe... :laughlong:[/quote]
U....are..a ....fu*cking....idiot :withstupid:

princevegetam 01-10-2003 02:04 PM

overly religious retard......

and SBYRD, don't forget those helium stars, i forgot what they were called, helphoid or something

SolidSnake76 01-10-2003 02:24 PM

red gaints.

princevegetam 01-10-2003 02:36 PM

uh... no, red giants are not helium stars

in a helium star, the there is no more hydrogen left and the helium fuses with itself to form carbon

SBYRD5 01-10-2003 07:00 PM

Remeber the universe use to be just a small point and nothing else...hmm I think heaven is past space.....

Science is nothing but proven fact...no one can deny science and be intelligent.

Princevegetam, you mostly insult me but I must admit I didn't know much about that...or maybe I forgot that information.If you find more information on those stars please share.

SolidSnake76,seems you are very serious in class to recall the early civilzation of man kind.

Since we have some how went into a subject of mankind.

What are Homosaipan's suppose ancestors.(No not monkeys)

princevegetam 01-10-2003 07:24 PM

if not monkeys, it's god, just as most religious ppl would say

SolidSnake76 01-10-2003 07:29 PM

sby, i just trying to explain to that jackass that the world is 4.2 billion years old. not 6,000, humans were around 35,000. if he thinks a planet is made in one day, like what pple said about rome, lord help him.

can we get back to space? name one star that is the closest to sol. and the light-years too.

Tantum 01-10-2003 07:30 PM

this is how it works.

a star starts off as mostly hydrogen.

EVERY SECOND in sol (our sun) the hydrogen that's being turned into helium, let's off explosive radiation 1,000,000 times greater than the strongest nuke we've ever made.

when the star turns all of it's hydrogen into helium, it then radiates by turning helium into oxygen. and that's when a star starts getting very large.

when the star is done burning the oxygen, it implodes on itself.


currently, sol is about 75% hydrogen, and 25% helium. so it will be around much longer than us humans. and personally, i really don't care, since 90% of the humans on this planet don't deserve to be here in the first place.

Tantum 01-10-2003 07:31 PM

Alpha Centari Double Star is the closest star to Sol. And it can only be seen from the southern hemisphere.

Can you name the closest Nebula to the Solar system?

SolidSnake76 01-10-2003 07:43 PM

damn. and i can see polaris in the northern hemisphere. alpha-centuri is also 1.6 light-years.

anyway tantum, about the hydrogen in stars, sol burns 2,000,000 tons of hydrogen every second. i forgot how much it was exaclty, heard it from that sunkis comercial. the sun's gravity forces the hydrogen to fuse together, causing nuclear fire. nuclear fire fights against gravity by keeping the star from collasping on itself. when it runs out it will fuse whatever other element it has before dying. scientist say that 5,000,000,000 from now, the sun will bollon into a red gaint, swallow mercuary and venus, and cook earth' surface to 2,500 degrees.

closes nebula is....................horsehead nebula?

AXE 01-10-2003 08:02 PM

Smart ass..... j/k

princevegetam 01-10-2003 08:04 PM

when helium fuses with itself, doesn't it turn into carbon? why oxygen?

Tantum 01-10-2003 08:16 PM

The Orion Nebula is the closest. but the Horse head is in the same field, so I say you are correct :)

Tantum 01-10-2003 08:23 PM

vegeta, the sun burns up almost all of the elements on the chart up until iron, when it turns to iron, it becomes a dwarf.

Mickey Mouse 01-10-2003 09:04 PM

Constellation:group of starts together makes a shape/design
Nebula:formation of something i forgot
sun:5 billion year old
Lives on earth wont exist in next 5 billion years


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