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milestails 06-16-2003 03:47 PM

i have one question... ive been to the Battle Grounds and seen these clans that represent diffrent people who would join something like a group and would join the groups refferred to as clans. are they needed for something?

SSJKarma 06-16-2003 04:52 PM

as far as i am concerned, i have been asking th esame question for the last 2 years !

in two years, the only thing i have known that needed clans was the CLAN WARS which is actually just another tourney but for clans !

so if anyone ever have a good reason that makes clan good to join, then let me know !
not many gave a good reason to me, and its not that i want to stay alone absolutely, its just that none could give me a good reason for me to join any !

feel free to try anyway...

Xicer 06-16-2003 06:58 PM

Lol Clans can be very helpful in the point that you can learn from other members experience. Every clan usally has atleast one good vet that know his stuff and of course the new members would want to learn from him/her. You can make tight bonds in a clan and learn a little bit more then you would know from being by your self.

Just ta say, Im not in a clan. :D

SSJKarma 06-16-2003 08:41 PM

i have been given that argument before !
here is what i answered...

i have friends around the forum, if i want to learn techs i can ask them and we gladly share our knowledges !
as for practice and skill getting acquired easier by being a clan, well, i fight the whole world, as far as i know... i don't have to fight with the same clan members all the time to get better, i just have to fight my way thru the users who actually this game !

anyway...
except for clan wars, i don't see any reason to make clans !
FRIENDS = i have them around here and i am not in a clan !
TOURNEYS = we have WTs and lots of thers that are done by many other users !
BONDs = told you, i have friends and i'm not in a clan !

those are one of the few arguments they have been talking to me !
also, they say...
one diss you out, the whole clan KO HIM int he battle field !
i answered...

10 against 1, one more reason not to be in your clan ! :biggrin:

Scorponok 06-16-2003 08:54 PM

Why not just join one Karma, try it out for a while, and see if you like it...

tupac2westsider 06-16-2003 09:29 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Scorponok"]Why not just join one Karma, try it out for a while, and see if you like it...[/quote]
Yeah, you never know if you dont try it.... So mostly is made up of ignorance. You really dont quite know what it is until you see it first hand. I know, because i tryied it first hand and i feel in love with the idea :D

Trust me.... When your in a clan you play much better..... Cause when your around a clan, what keeps it alive is fighting eachother and other clans. So you can only get better not worst...

When you play alone you practacly get tiered of the game. You play in one tournament and you played in them all..... Its not really much different from the rest. You also meet more people more faster than just playing around in the servers.

Karma, i havent seen you in the game in along time.... I would think that you dont have much interest in playing the game alot, theres nothing to tie you down and play. Theres nothing to really keep you that interested in playing.....

I dont either :D

But i have a clan..... Having a clan game me that thrill i usto get when i first started playing this game. If it wasnt really for clans i wouldnt be here today.

Clans arnt for everyone....

Why have Football teams when i can play with my friends?

I think its much more challenging with Teams :D

pip99 06-17-2003 04:04 AM

its adds more 2 the game ive been in missfits for like a year and a half...and im a respected member. Bieng in one can gain u respect...ive stuck with my clan...through the best and #### times...and ive bein offred 2 go to better clans but meh i stuck with my old clan.also clans battles are good......much better then randomily playin.

doommachine 06-17-2003 06:04 AM

why cant we just play the game and not have these clans/clubs i rather just have fun than these battling "clans"

Fried_Ricer 06-17-2003 06:07 AM

plus alot of ppl join purposely for clan wars :corky:

doommachine 06-17-2003 06:13 AM

o well my clan would constantly lose cuz my comp causes lags so i have no wins in quick match and the only reason why i have 1 win is cuz my team mate won for me other than that i would make a clan called "THE LOSERS CLAN" it would be the worst clan around lol

pip99 06-17-2003 06:17 AM

[quote:post_uid0="doommachine"]why cant we just play the game and not have these clans/clubs i rather just have fun than these battling "clans"[/quote]
its more fun...with teams.

SSJDan 06-17-2003 08:06 AM

[quote:post_uid0="pip99"][quote:post_uid0="doommachine"]why cant we just play the game and not have these clans/clubs i rather just have fun than these battling "clans"[/quote]
its more fun...with teams.[/quote]
pip is right. For me anyway a clan made this game more fun, if i wasn't in a clan i prolly would have left a while ago. Untill you have actually been in one you can't say they are good or bad. Its like saying i don't like sushi even though you've never tried it.

Also i don't think clans are NEEDED the onlt thing that is really needed is the game and some users, actually if you really want to get into what is needed and whats not neededyou may want to think about if your own existence is even needed. Will the world not be able to survive with out you, i doubt it, wil the game die without clans i doubt it.

bloodpack 06-17-2003 08:53 AM

although KARMA made a valid argument, the clan thing can also be compared to a family

its like...WHY DO WE NEED FAMILIES or WHAT FAMILIES FOR? WHY CANT WE JUST LIVE ON OUR OWN?

pip99 06-17-2003 11:26 AM

[quote:post_uid0="bloodpack"]although KARMA made a valid argument, the clan thing can also be compared to a family

its like...WHY DO WE NEED FAMILIES or WHAT FAMILIES FOR? WHY CANT WE JUST LIVE ON OUR OWN?[/quote]
im not pionting the finger at any1 but....people who liv on there own are streotypical...losers. A social who cant pulll or cant even make convo with there own sex.........nah.

and you CANT compare real life to a VIDEO GAME...meh.

G_GUNDAM 06-17-2003 12:11 PM

well all i can say is this. joining the samurai clan was and always will be a great experience in this game for me. we are no ordinary clan. we are a clan that thrives on quality not quanity. we actually help each other get better. my good leader haohmaru2 actually helped me gain extra skillz even though i thought i couldnt get any better. we train each other, enter tourneys, make banners for each other, give out helpful info, and more. and if u dont believe me about training each other then take a look at me and aftermath. i actually helped him gain more skillz and experience. now some people say that his skillz rival mines.


so basically clans are and arent needed. it depends on the type of person you are.

SSJKarma 06-17-2003 10:50 PM

i read all your posts... and still, i don't see the need for clans !

i see the needs for this forum, caus ei got friends thru it !
if i wanna fight people, i just get in the game and ask for fights,and believe me, i have lots of them !

i just don't see the need for clans !
tag matches lag like hell, i can't even compete in tag matches !

example:
MY PING (hosting) = around 60-100
MY PING (joining) = around 300-600
MY PING (TAG, HOSTING) = ? don't know i never did it !
MY PING (TAG, JOINING) = over 1500 at all time !

i ask you, how can you love that kind of game ?
no wonder that all clans says there are tons of lag in the game !

like i said, CLANS being like FAMILY ?
i doubt it... i actually need my family and i don'T know what i would do without them.
CLANS, its far from being a family and i don't see what is so cool in having clan friends ? compared to FORUM FRIENDS who happens to play the game as much as myself !

also... i don't play that game much, why because i like it, and even tho you people think i lost interest in it. i assure you that i didn't ! i was playing a lot more when i started, mainly due to the fact that i wasn't passing an hour before playing in the forum !

but interest in the game is still the same cause the game is different from any other game i've played !

all that mater is finding a way to love things around here !
if you guys love clans and that's what makes you happy with the game, then i say that its not the game who makes you happy, its having friends and nothing else !

anyway...
i'm not saying anything about clan members.
you are happy with your things and that's all that mater !

just to know...
which clans there are and who is the masters and members of them all ?
give me links to their web pages and i'll look into it, but i doubt i will ever join one !

pip99 06-18-2003 04:01 AM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]i read all your posts... and still, i don't see the need for clans !

i see the needs for this forum, caus ei got friends thru it !
if i wanna fight people, i just get in the game and ask for fights,and believe me, i have lots of them !

i just don't see the need for clans !
tag matches lag like hell, i can't even compete in tag matches !

example:
MY PING (hosting) = around 60-100
MY PING (joining) = around 300-600
MY PING (TAG, HOSTING) = ? don't know i never did it !
MY PING (TAG, JOINING) = over 1500 at all time !

i ask you, how can you love that kind of game ?
no wonder that all clans says there are tons of lag in the game !

like i said, CLANS being like FAMILY ?
i doubt it... i actually need my family and i don'T know what i would do without them.
CLANS, its far from being a family and i don't see what is so cool in having clan friends ? compared to FORUM FRIENDS who happens to play the game as much as myself !

also... i don't play that game much, why because i like it, and even tho you people think i lost interest in it. i assure you that i didn't ! i was playing a lot more when i started, mainly due to the fact that i wasn't passing an hour before playing in the forum !

but interest in the game is still the same cause the game is different from any other game i've played !

all that mater is finding a way to love things around here !
if you guys love clans and that's what makes you happy with the game, then i say that its not the game who makes you happy, its having friends and nothing else !

anyway...
i'm not saying anything about clan members.
you are happy with your things and that's all that mater !

just to know...
which clans there are and who is the masters and members of them all ?
give me links to their web pages and i'll look into it, but i doubt i will ever join one ![/quote]
whats tag got 2 do with clans lol? and my tag...is so quick.

bloodpack 06-18-2003 07:41 AM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]like i said, CLANS being like FAMILY ?
i doubt it... i actually need my family and i don'T know what i would do without them.
CLANS, its far from being a family[/quote]
about clan

so, you were saying about FAMILY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH CLAN?

SSJKarma 06-18-2003 09:49 AM

Quote:

A traditional social unit in the Scottish Highlands, consisting of a number of families claiming a common ancestor and following the same hereditary chieftain.
you refered to that one...
definitely not my brother,dad,or mom, nor my sousin, nor a close friends, nor a neibors !

definitely not part of my family !
CLANS are very unlike FAMILIES, if you call that family then its because you got a big problems with yours and you need a replacement one !

bloodpack 06-18-2003 10:50 AM

karma, youre basically combining the concept of CLAN of this game and the word CLAN where it actually originated from

of were talking about clan of this game then DEFINTELY not my kinda family

but the CLAN im talking about is the REAL clan
i dont even know why the WORD CLAN is used in this game bcoz in reality, CLAN is really about long dynasty of families that has very deep roots and role in their community

btw, i dont need replacements on the family that i have right now :sarcasm:

marvel911 06-18-2003 11:19 AM

[color=red:post_uid11]I'm not in a clan...nor have any intention of joining one... See to me, the clans are made for fighting in the game and makin a name for themselves...and I can simply do that alone and get well known as a good fighter.. But i dont need some other people to help me do that.. It's just kinda stupid to join together and call yourself a clan when the members usually fight one on one battles anyways...So i see no way a clan could help me do anything..Because where I fight...I can easily do it alone..[/color:post_uid11] :alien:

pip99 06-19-2003 08:20 AM

[quote:post_uid0="marvel911"]I'm not in a clan...nor have any intention of joining one... See to me, the clans are made for fighting in the game and makin a name for themselves...and I can simply do that alone and get well known as a good fighter.. But i dont need some other people to help me do that.. It's just kinda stupid to join together and call yourself a clan when the members usually fight one on one battles anyways...So i see no way a clan could help me do anything..Because where I fight...I can easily do it alone.. :alien:[/quote]
serious in forum u known but in game...u are no1 so how can u say that...i dont need a clan for that...and thats NOT why people jion them...u havent grasped the whole piont of jioning one.

SSJKarma 06-19-2003 10:26 AM

[quote:post_uid0="pip99"][quote:post_uid0="marvel911"]I'm not in a clan...nor have any intention of joining one... See to me, the clans are made for fighting in the game and makin a name for themselves...and I can simply do that alone and get well known as a good fighter.. But i dont need some other people to help me do that.. It's just kinda stupid to join together and call yourself a clan when the members usually fight one on one battles anyways...So i see no way a clan could help me do anything..Because where I fight...I can easily do it alone.. :alien:[/quote]
serious in forum u known but in game...u are no1 so how can u say that...i dont need a clan for that...and thats NOT why people jion them...u havent grasped the whole piont of jioning one.[/quote]
i think you didn't understood what we've been talking since the start pip99 !

let me give you example...
NFERNO666: he got to top of th erank like 3 times in a row, never have been in a clan at that time, he's pretty well known among the game AND forum !

TARKANX (aka clan destroyer) : same as above, he got rank #1 like three times in a row for more then a year and so. he got well known for even before any clans were made and he got declared as a legend. int he game, and in the forum !

see, where i go, you don't need to be in a clan to be known as a fitgher, as long as you play the game much and get wins against everyone !

and, how many times have i heard your name being on a winning trip ?
none, what i hear is that the CLAN is on a winning trip !
so basically, when you win, you don't get that win, the clan does and that's what i'm against !

when i play i get the glory myself, i am the one who gets the fun of winning and i know that when i'll talk to someone he will say that i'm better then him !

and i don't need anyone to kick the ass of the moron who insults me. unlike clans who dare to say one for all, all for one !

see, we can do exactly the very same when being alone. so why would someone need a clan ?

and if you gotta know, why do you think many clans get dissolves so fast ?
because they don't offer anything that aloner like myself can get !

as for TARKANX and some others... they were in DRUNKEN SMASHER. but the clan nebver really gave anything, and got dissolved after a while !



Edited By SSJKarma on June 19 2003 at 12:28

pip99 06-19-2003 10:43 AM

lol what a waste of 10 minutes....ok he says he known in the game....but hes not. ( read that over...then read his)...u blagged on 4 nothing..

SSJKarma 06-19-2003 05:27 PM

[quote:post_uid0="pip99"]lol what a waste of 10 minutes....ok he says he known in the game....but hes not. ( read that over...then read his)...u blagged on 4 nothing..[/quote]
errrrrr, he maybe not known by you, but marvel911 has been one of the best fighters around the time one year and half ago !

i say he's pretty well known around the place !
PIP99, its not because a certain group doesn't know him that he isn't known that much !

i'm a nightwarrior, it means i acxtually during night in here, lots of those i play with are like already in bed or are working at their own job. that's mainly why i'm not known. because the people don't see me in because i'm playing when they are at work or already in their bed !

believe me, he is known !
just like MANONTHERUN, SELVIN, INCLUSIVES and lots more that i'm sure you never heard of before !

iTALY 06-19-2003 08:56 PM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"][quote:post_uid0="pip99"]lol what a waste of 10 minutes....ok he says he known in the game....but hes not. ( read that over...then read his)...u blagged on 4 nothing..[/quote]
errrrrr, he maybe not known by you, but marvel911 has been one of the best fighters around the time one year and half ago !

i say he's pretty well known around the place !
PIP99, its not because a certain group doesn't know him that he isn't known that much !

i'm a nightwarrior, it means i acxtually during night in here, lots of those i play with are like already in bed or are working at their own job. that's mainly why i'm not known. because the people don't see me in because i'm playing when they are at work or already in their bed !

believe me, he is known !
just like MANONTHERUN, SELVIN, INCLUSIVES and lots more that i'm sure you never heard of before ![/quote]
ok now you just making #### up karma....lol



Marvel what is your name in the game??

And karma how can you judge something if u have never tried it before??

SSJKarma 06-19-2003 10:23 PM

iTALY: i never judged the different clans, nor the whole concept !

all i asked, was a proof that clan could do something for me, something that i couldn't get while playing on my own ! sadly enough, none could give me that reason, so i stay on my point, why are clans good, if all the reasons to be in it that you give me are all things i can easily get on my own ?

that's all i ask, give me a GOOD reason, and i'll join !
last answer someone gave me, was because i was good, he said join my clan !

i said you want me to join because i'm good ?
sorry, not interested !

see, all the answer i've got all have the same thing in common... i don't need to be in a clan to do them !

clans make you better...
as far as i know, i don't need clan to do training and fights !

clans gives you friends...
as far as i know, i have a lot already, why would i need more ?

clans give you respect...
how ? i had respect by respecting the people, not by being a great fighter !

clans have tournaments that clan only have...
why would i join a clan for that reason ? i don't care about tournaments specialized or not. if i want to join a tourney, i'll have the choice of all other tourneys including the WTs !

Clans able you to learn more startegies by talking with other members...
have you ever looked in the forum ? how many STRATEGIES topic do i see every months ?

see... all reason that have been given to me, are all bad reasons for me. cause everything they said to me, i can have it while being on my own. so again, why would i join a clan ?

give me a reason to join and i'll try... but its gonna be something i can't normally have !

don't say CLAN WARS... its called a tournament, if i was interessted by tourney, i would have join many months ago !

mastaq 06-19-2003 11:37 PM

Some people like clans, and others don't like clans. Why can't we just leave it at that... Some people are so closed minded and arguementitive..

pip99 06-20-2003 02:38 AM

Quote:

errrrrr, he maybe not known by you, but marvel911 has been one of the best fighters around the time one year and half ago !

i say he's pretty well known around the place
#


lmfao...serious NO!!! not at all...theres like 20 - 30 vets u still make an impact on the game...then theres new players like chicken wing and da vipa etc etc....karma...lmfao u know ####..even italy commented on that...dude thats pure BULLpoop...and karma...i was on shenk since..feb 02..and played game in jan02..and he wasnt even a good fighter then...dont come back....cause he wasnt simple as take the FACT that your wrong..this isnt personal opnion...the fact is your wrong..u hardly play the game anyways.


Quote:

just like MANONTHERUN, SELVIN, INCLUSIVES and lots more that i'm sure you never heard of before !

lol..i know them all u want me 2 pull out and oldskool printscreen of me whooping manontherun....lol man karma....serious dubya tee eff are u BLAGGING on about...do you think im a noob?? dude...were u even at shekation forum...i was at there since feb...maybe jan..but i know i was there at feb cause i learnt how 2 take printscreens then..i still have 4 or 5 old ones...with dates of feb02....when i learnt 2 man. sometimes u really chat poo.

SSJKarma 06-20-2003 06:07 AM

seriously pip...
i know what i know, and i know marvel911 is known a lot.
you know why ?
because those who knowns him th eforum knowns him around the game also and there are like more then 20-30 persons who knows him.

i am known a lot and i know it fromt he number of users that knows my name and talks to me when i join the chat rooms !
new players coming all the time so sure, in that case even you isn't known, you wanna go intop details like vets are too old and since they don't play they aren't known. well, a new player doesn't even care about talking and knowing someone, all they want is play the game !

we all have our fame in a way or the other and we are known among their friends who they made of.
so yeah, i know he is known about, so have you, so have i, so have italy, so have evryone else !

so don't say #### about me !

castone_86 06-21-2003 12:07 AM

[quote:post_uid0="mastaq"]Some people like clans, and others don't like clans. Why can't we just leave it at that... Some people are so closed minded and arguementitive..[/quote]
very true


karma, i used to think like you.... thinking that a clan so would only slow me down... but then haohmaru2 spotted me out of the crowd and asked me to fight in clan wars for him. ever since, i've been in samurais. now i've made a name for myself... not in this forum, because i rarely visit here.

this is the path i have taken... i'm not telling you that it is the only right one to take. i'm simply trying to say that either way can bring a promising future and all you people are fighting over this for no reason... there is no right path, as long as it ends up in the same place....

pip99 06-21-2003 12:26 AM

Quote:

i know what i know, and i know marvel911 is known a lot.

false lol serisly ive been playing here since jan02..and dude..NO!!!!

SSJKarma 06-21-2003 01:57 PM

you didn't understood what i said huh !

example:
i've been here since september 2001 and i didn't knew who was DARK-LINK untill very recently when i first met him !

if that example doesn't show you what i meant then you gotta learn to think before saying stupidites !

if he wans't known, then no one would be discussing about him in here as well !
so if he's known here, he is in the game !

you're stupid if you think otherwise !
why ?
because people here are actually players in the game !
i may be known a lot in the forum, but i'm also known a lot in the game, even tho i don't play much... i'm still known a lot !
if you don't want to understand the facts, then don't understand them... but at least don't tell me i'm wrong cause i'm really not ! you are !

DanYankees 06-21-2003 02:04 PM

Having clans is just a plus to the game. It adds excitement and gives people a reason to play.

That also goes with the top scores. Not to get off topic, but the top scores also keep many people interested in the game.

AdmRivera 06-21-2003 05:52 PM

Using clans is personally pathetic...you don't need other people to make yourself better, if you think your good you don't need other people...like me i play alone, i can't stand anyone

KidKrazyShit 06-21-2003 06:13 PM

[quote:post_uid0="AdmRivera"]Using clans is personally pathetic...you don't need other people to make yourself better, if you think your good you don't need other people...like me i play alone, i can't stand anyone[/quote]
...and just from that post I can tell your a moron who hasn't read one post in this entire thread. I bet you just clicked the thread link, and posted away. You might just wanna try reading before posting.

G_GUNDAM 06-21-2003 11:20 PM

lol kks everytime u post about somethin a noob said u make me laugh. it sounds like that man has some personal issues. he says that you dont need other people to make yourself better. ever since i joined the samurai clan my skillz went up dramatically. i wanna fight u to see this so called lone wolf attitude u have.

SSJKarma 06-22-2003 10:14 PM

its true that talking with people gives you better chances of not getting surprised by other users. its a good way to learn !

but being a lone wolf make you understand the deeper meaning of losing and winning !
that's what counts for me.
that's why i now play for the fun of it and not for the ranks, skills and all... cause after all, its just a game and nothing more !


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