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TMyApp 12-26-2002 09:39 PM

you MIGHT have seen him... u were probably playing what you thought of as "normal" game... you saw a VIP or a MOD come in... so u'r prob thinking "ok, lets see how good they are with their green char"... u get into the the game.. and BANG !!! ... Black Spider-Man ...

so u prob though .... noffin' special ... until u saw his moves :biggrin:

.. ok ok.. so maybe what u were thinking wasn't THAT lame... but hey... i got this asked 50 times in the last 24hours.. so i thought i might as well start this thread.. and tell ya'all once and for all... who exactly is this "Black Spider-Man" :biggrin:

it all goes back to the comics... as u all remmemba' ... BEFORE Venom, Spider-Man wore the alien Symbiote which gave him a lot of what now known as "Venom abilities"... that is... until Parker got rid of the damn thing and the REAL Venom was born...

while some of u labled him as "armored spiderman"... that is simply not true... (the MvsSF looks are very superficial) ...

being Spider-Man with the Symbiote, u'll notice that he will have a few "new" moves than the "regular" Spider-Man (two moves to be exact)... "Symbiote Attack" and "Death Byte" ... (yes they are a Venom rip.. but hey.. Parker DOES have an excuse this time ) :biggrin:

... now.. the "confusing" facts...

in version 0.7a you ALL had the "Symbiote Attack" (down, forward + kick) ... and it was GREAT (wasn't it ?? ) and now.. it is gone ?? well.. lets think about that... u had the REGULAR Spider-Man, yet u could do a "Black Spider-Man" mover ?? ... down in "XvsSF Land" we call that a bug (which was fixed in 0.7b )

now.. one last thing... "how can you play as Black Spider-Man" ... well... as many of u know, he is a VIP and MOD only char... thus, u "normies" can't pick him (yet... but who knows what the distant future will bring )

there u have it :biggrin:

sk8erfox805 12-26-2002 10:32 PM

can u tweak his special?? it takes like half of ur energy if it gets u ...

pip99 12-26-2002 10:34 PM

he more ******* powerfull than wolve......and hes 3 times quikcer and he can shoot..tmyapp hes totally screwing up the game

AXE 12-26-2002 10:47 PM

.... Im not gona say anything this time.

SSJKarma 12-26-2002 11:00 PM

pip99: well, since only VIPS and MODS can have it... i think it is good that way... he is like onslaught !

anyway, VIPS are like 15 on 210,000 users, and that include MODS... so how come you have been fighting him that lots of time to know he's powerfull and stuff ?

after all, it could just be LAG you know !
for my part, i never saw him except in pictures !

keep it up TMYAPP, perhaps we'll have a very good game after all ! :biggrin:
joking, it is the best i have seen on the web !

sk8erfox805 12-27-2002 12:11 AM

well i fought some vips and i beat them.. like tupac , nosoul, and someone else that i dont remember .. but anyways

it takes to much and its not fair..

nosoul4evr 12-27-2002 04:48 AM

I'm with SSJKarma on this one.
There are about 15+ VIP/MODS that can use the Symbiote Spiderman.
Compared to the rest of you 215,000+ regular users.

Thats only 15 people out of hundreds of thousands of users....Thats ONLY 15 people you need to "look out for" if your worried about your win/loss average,or highscore.

Plus...We the VIP's, have donated money to help keep this game FREE for everyone.
So I beleive that..YES! WE DO deserve special moves, characters and perks, that the average non-donating member cant use.

You want Symbiote Spidy?..You want special moves?..You want behind the scenes info? You want special perks?

Then donate some money to become a VIP member,and receive these and many more special XvsSF benifits.

ULT1MATEWAR321 12-27-2002 04:59 AM

PIP ISNT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE BLACK SPIDER MAN HES ON ABOUT ME AND MY RED ONE LOL I BEAT HIM 4 TIMES IN A ROW AND HE CANT HANDLE IT HE THINKS ITS CHEAP LOL U DECIDE HE HAD SPIDEY TOO LOL IVE ALSO PLAYED ALONG SIDE AND AGAINST TYMAPP SYMBIOTE SPIDER MAN AND YES HES GOT SOME DEADLY MOVES BUT HE AINT INVINCIBE YET I WOULD SAY IF UR GONNA FIGHT THE BLACK SPIDER USE UR RED ONE SENTINAL AND CYCLOPS ARE USLESS VS HIM AND SO IS CHUN BEST CHARACTER TO USE IS SPIDEY OR RYU

EACH CHARACTER HAS A WEAKNESS PIP FIND IT AND EXPLOIT IT THATS WHY U DIED VS ME I FOUND UR CHARACTERS WEAKNESS SO ALL I CAN SAY ON THE SUBJECT IS SPIDEY IS COOL AND PIP U GOTTA GO WITH THE TIMES MAN NO OFFENCE AND I AINT HAVING A GO AT U OR ANYTHING SO DONT TAKE IT PERSONNALY MY FRIEND :buttrock: :alien:

marvel911 12-27-2002 08:47 AM

Well I think that the black spidey should be left to the VIP's and Mod's..cuz they deserve it, and besides I've never played the VIP's, because I know I'll get a whoopin. :alien:

2003Warrior 12-27-2002 09:27 AM

Ok, I am going to work as hard as I can to become a moderator.

MIG 12-27-2002 09:54 AM

i think that its good for the mods and vips to get extra stuff like this since they help the game loads, and i see that u fixed the bug where normal members could use those attacks cos i pulled them off yesterday

KidKrazyShit 12-27-2002 09:56 AM

[quote:post_uid0="2003Warrior"]Ok, I am going to work as hard as I can to become a moderator.[/quote]
You'll be waiting a lonnnnnnnng time. Especially with a user name like that.

Scorponok 12-27-2002 10:17 AM

[quote:post_uid0="KidKrazyShit"][quote:post_uid0="2003Warrior"]Ok, I am going to work as hard as I can to become a moderator.[/quote]
You'll be waiting a lonnnnnnnng time. Especially with a user name like that.[/quote]
<font color="blue">Lol, that name sounds sort of familiar.. ;)

ssj2trunks52 12-27-2002 11:01 AM

hehehehe that was funny but anyways

Tmyapp I think it would be great if sometime pretty soon you could put in spidey triangle jump when you can make him hit the wall and jump off it cause spidey will never be complete without it...

When I play marvel vs capcom with him triangle jump is a main part of my stratagy...

TMyApp 12-27-2002 11:51 AM

KidKrazypoop: lol... true :biggrin:

in any case... there WERE some issues with balance in 0.7a, but the "Death Byte" has been tweaked in 0.7b ... so... after ALL of the tests i did, i never saw the hyper take off more than 40% ... and most of the time, it stays @ around 30%... (compare that to Logan and his 50% health-be-gone hyper )

... i really don't see the VIP/MOD players taking over the top-scores with him... but if they do (god knows why) ... i'll tweak him a bit more... :biggrin:

sk8erfox805 12-27-2002 12:24 PM

im not complaining about rank.. and $hit like that
i dont care.. most of the time i only play ppl that i kno

or ppl from the forums.. and yeah im not complaining about the color its alright .. just tweak a lil bit the move like to take at least 25 % .. not 2 much

XtremetheZealot 12-27-2002 03:56 PM

Oh Tmy, is he gonna stay like this, or are you gonna give him the colours like he actually had them (black with the white spider in front). I'm guessing no, cause you're not an animation or anything.

Although, someone could do it, and recieve the perk. Since it is a 2d game, the colours are more definite, so u can just use the colour replacer or magic wand to sort of replace the colours. You could just look at venom.

MasterX05 12-27-2002 05:00 PM

how u become a mod?

Bunmi 12-27-2002 06:04 PM

pip you complain too much aren't you ever satisifed

they'll be here anyminute
....................... :)
*looks at watch*

SSJKarma 12-27-2002 07:36 PM

well...
like i said, no need to tweak him, unless all the person you're gonna fight are VIPs and MODS which isn't really asking for fights !

we always never see them online, we almost never see a VIP or mod getting a real fihgt and we certainly never really be able to fight them because they have so much things to do !

so why bothering in changing what doesn't need to be changed ?
BTW, why tweaking spiderman when wolverine gives more damage then him ?
i don't see you asking to change him !

DanYankees 12-27-2002 07:48 PM

I've had many a spidey fight with tupac. I think the special that is given to the black spiderman's awesome, and will get more people to donate money :). it definitley does give VIPS the edge, but tupac would be able to beat me anyway.

I don't think you should tweak spidey at all...he's awesome as it is.

tupac2westsider 12-27-2002 08:17 PM

So much hate towards VIP's!!!!

Ive been fighting alot with spidey these past days, and i have to say that almost everyone that has fought me has said "Stupid VIP", "You had to be a VIP", "You cheated", "thats not fair", "you lucky you got armored spidey" and stuff like that.

People have wanted to kill me because of spidey. Oh well, they cant really do anything about it. But still its pretty stupid when they call you all this stuff and its because of you that this game is still going(which i doubt).

Tupac will get to rank one before i go to Mexico for a month and leave you all behind. Reason why im fighting alot, trying to get the best out of the game before i leave. :biggrin:

Undernet1 12-27-2002 08:36 PM

how do i become a MOD? ??? cause i reeeeeeeeeeeeaaaally like the spider man(black) or can u make it 4 everyone? ??? iim really good w/ the regular one plz![img:post_uid9]http://www.gamegen.com/fightgen/cool.gif[/img:post_uid9]

voitz 12-27-2002 10:41 PM

[quote:post_uid0="tupac2westsider"]So much hate towards VIP's!!!!

Ive been fighting alot with spidey these past days, and i have to say that almost everyone that has fought me has said "Stupid VIP", "You had to be a VIP", "You cheated", "thats not fair", "you lucky you got armored spidey" and stuff like that.

People have wanted to kill me because of spidey. Oh well, they cant really do anything about it. But still its pretty stupid when they call you all this stuff and its because of you that this game is still going(which i doubt).

Tupac will get to rank one before i go to Mexico for a month and leave you all behind. Reason why im fighting alot, trying to get the best out of the game before i leave. :biggrin:[/quote]
that's sick.

but why don't u fight back at them? i know thats rude especially if you're one of the mods or vip's. but sometimes they get carried away. at least they could also learn their lesson... er.. if there is :D

sk8erfox805 12-27-2002 10:57 PM

now i wonder why i see tupac in the game a lot lol

btw .. since spiderman got here i have only lost like 5 matches..
and i have won like 70 or something like that.. hahah spiderman is awesome

2003Warrior 12-28-2002 08:43 AM

[quote:post_uid0="KidKrazyShit"][quote:post_uid0="2003Warrior"]Ok, I am going to work as hard as I can to become a moderator.[/quote]
You'll be waiting a lonnnnnnnng time. Especially with a user name like that.[/quote]
Ya, I know but I am a very patient persone :p

(R)Dragon(R) 12-28-2002 08:56 AM

No sweat. I'll still kill all of you even if you got black spider man. :D

Bunmi 12-28-2002 10:42 AM

ITS NOT UNSTOPPABLE ALL IT TAKES IS A RIGHT ANGLED MAXIUM SPIDER TO EVADE RIGHT THROUGH IT AND CLAIM YOUR VICTORY IF IT HIS ON A BAD SLANT AND YOU GET CAUGHT IN THAT DEADLY ATTACK ALL I CAN SAY IS YOUR OWN YOUR OWN UNLESS YOUR A PRO AND BLOCK FAST BUT HEY RARELY PEOPLE CAN PULL THAT OFF :(

DanYankees 12-28-2002 11:27 AM

[quote:post_uid0="tupac2westsider"]So much hate towards VIP's!!!!

Ive been fighting alot with spidey these past days, and i have to say that almost everyone that has fought me has said "Stupid VIP", "You had to be a VIP", "You cheated", "thats not fair", "you lucky you got armored spidey" and stuff like that.[/quote]
haha I think I've used the "curse you VIPs" after I lost to you :D

Undernet1 12-28-2002 11:43 AM

hey ya'll join my forum plz its cool and the other members are from xmen vs streetfighter :buttrock: :D plz join it its all message boards and u can instant message like this forum :) im the admin !(COBRA)!'s the other one and Chalenger is the Co-admin plz join!!!! the site is Undernet1's

XtremetheZealot 12-28-2002 01:00 PM

Undernet1: If you can afford to run your own site and everything, then all you have to do is send TMyapp 5 or more dollars through paypal, and you'll become a VIP. Then, you'll be a VIP for life - unless you specifically ask to be "Un" VIPed (but who would want to). You'll receive the black spiderman as well as many other cool perks. Check out the "vip member info" thread for more information.

Gothic Archangel 12-28-2002 02:31 PM

[quote:post_uid0="TMyApp"]KidKrazypoop: lol... true :biggrin:

in any case... there WERE some issues with balance in 0.7a, but the "Death Byte" has been tweaked in 0.7b ... so... after ALL of the tests i did, i never saw the hyper take off more than 40% ... and most of the time, it stays @ around 30%... (compare that to Logan and his 50% health-be-gone hyper )

... i really don't see the VIP/MOD players taking over the top-scores with him... but if they do (god knows why) ... i'll tweak him a bit more... :biggrin:[/quote]

Well like SSJKarma said twice, there are very few Vip's and personally I don't care about rank, so it's not like I'm using Spidey to get up there.
Yet the people who play this game like almost everday such as Nferno666 and Dark-Link are in the Top 5 and use a non-vip Spider-Man so it's not like there's a need to tone down the Vip's special moves.




Edited By Gothic Archangel on Dec. 28 2002 at 18:46

SSJKarma 12-28-2002 09:41 PM

let me get this straight !

two thing makes maximum spider an almost none dangerous move !
1 - it got a very big bug in it ! (do it, then push the forward key before spidey get to the edge of the screen. spidey just cancel his super)
2 - so easy to block ! (you just need to see spiderman coming)

with this known...
believe it or not, i'm better with spiderman then i was with sentinel. now i can kick butt without even trying ! but i think its just that i know him well ! anyway... keep him like he is and stop complaining !

XtremetheZealot 12-29-2002 09:13 AM

Well, I have an idea that would make Maximum spider alot easier to handle, it wouldn't drastically change it.

Maximum spider is pretty easy to block. How bout making maximum spiders blocked damage a tiny "sliver" of damage. That way, if/when you block it (which is pretty damn easy), it's very little damage.

As for when the damage connects, leave it as it is. If you can't block it (which is pretty easy), then you should receive that damage.

Gokan 12-29-2002 09:31 AM

[quote:post_uid0="KidKrazyShit"][quote:post_uid0="2003Warrior"]Ok, I am going to work as hard as I can to become a moderator.[/quote]
You'll be waiting a lonnnnnnnng time. Especially with a user name like that.[/quote]
How do u become a mod?

viper2040 12-29-2002 10:52 AM

well, while some of you said that he's screwing the game up, i think that the other characters need to be improved, rather than weakening spidey. Why? well, because with lag, many of your attacks dont go through. But with spidey, those that DO go through do some damage. Before, if you were playing a high lag game, it could go on forever, and even when your moves went through, it didnt do very much. Spidey handles lag really well.

oh, and about maximum spider being easy to block?
if youre in the middle of the screen when he does it, you have to rapidly change the direction you're holding to block--to block you hold away from the enemy, but when he's going from one side to the other...
Also, it has ENORMOUS reach. I was doing chunli's lightning kick, and maximum spider was doen. It went straight through my lightning kick without stopping. You pretty much need a projectile to stop maximum spider


About VIPs being able to exploit black spidey--it isnt gonna happen. Noone wants to pay $15 to become a VIP, and risk losing it because of "misconduct" or whatever; and if they paid the money in the first place, then you have no place in bitching at them--theyre helping to fund the game. Plus, most of the immature ones who WOULD exploit spidey dont seem to have a checking account or the money to spend.



Edited By viper2040 on Dec. 29 2002 at 13:59

Warmor 12-29-2002 05:43 PM

[quote:post_uid0="sk8erfox805"]well i fought some vips and i beat them.. like tupac , nosoul, and someone else that i dont remember .. but anyways

it takes to much and its not fair..[/quote]
If your winning why is it a problem?

Nferno666 12-30-2002 02:34 AM

well i haven't use him once for fighting but have in practice(the correct way..not cheapness) well tmy since spiderman has a new move that only vip can use why not let ryu have his *shin Shouryu-ken* for vip's i'm sure there would be more than just 15 after that :laughlong:

Bunmi 12-30-2002 05:31 AM

ahh yet the bitching lives on :biggrin:

DanYankees 12-30-2002 06:45 AM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]let me get this straight !

two thing makes maximum spider an almost none dangerous move !
1 - it got a very big bug in it ! (do it, then push the forward key before spidey get to the edge of the screen. spidey just cancel his super)
2 - so easy to block ! (you just need to see spiderman coming)

with this known...
believe it or not, i'm better with spiderman then i was with sentinel. now i can kick butt without even trying ! but i think its just that i know him well ! anyway... keep him like he is and stop complaining ![/quote]
Sure Karma...you just keep thinking that :D


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