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Airlock 09-09-2001 07:15 AM

I've noticed some problems with the Helpers:
1) They arent succeptable to hits from the enemy player
2) Sentinel wont hit Ryu standing on the ground
3) you can call them while being hit with a Super Move
4) you can call them while hitting with a Super Move

ewalk 09-09-2001 11:50 AM

1) would there be a point to having them succeptable to oponent hits?
2)Sentinel is an anti-air dude, not suppose to hits ryu if he's standing
3)i find that the most useful, thats prolly why the helpers exist to cancel be used to kinda counter attack the opponents hyper move..
4)makes way for sweet hard hitting combo's :)

Token 09-09-2001 02:33 PM

Quote:

Quote: from Airlock on 10:15 am on Sep. 9, 2001
I've noticed some problems with the Helpers:

-We all have...
1) They arent succeptable to hits from the enemy player

-...No, really? they dont have health, they attack and go back..simple as that.
2) Sentinel wont hit Ryu standing on the ground

-Your kidding, right? Ryu-Short, Sentinel-Tall. He is for anti air and larger fighters. Use him when the opponent is doing a hurricane kick, knock em the fuck out, or when they do a dragon punch...
3) you can call them while being hit with a Super Move

-Thats the main point of a helpr. To help.
4) you can call them while hitting with a Super Move


-More help, from our helpers.

Necro2k1 09-09-2001 02:38 PM

I hate the sentinel, hes too slow to catch someone in the air jumping and once he lands and starts to do the attack the other person knows not to jump. You have to hit them in the air before or after he comes, and then its still hard to catch them with it because the attack is short. And I find myself being stuck with him alot.

Guile and Blanka seem to be the best.

If someone is ducking the super hurricane kick you can send in blanka and it might hit them causing them to stand up and get hit with the hyper move and you can use guile nicely with the shin kuu hadouken.

Just my two cents, improve sentinel, hes worthless.

ewalk 09-10-2001 04:39 AM

yup i keep repeating myself over and over on this one SENTINEL IS TOO #### SLOW!!!

(necro i never thought of the sending blanka in while doing the hurricane hyper kick thing... good move, hmm.. might come in handy during the tournament!!!) :)

Airlock 09-10-2001 08:04 AM

In MvC, Helpers are not invincible. If you hit an enemy's helper, it cancels that helpers attack. Guile's Sonic Boom should be cancelable with a Fireball. Blanka should be able to be knocked out of the air. Sentinel is Useless. Venom's attack is too short-ranged and slow to be useful.

Lordcyris 09-10-2001 08:25 AM

i agree with airlock
venom is also a bit slow
and only hits 1once it doesnt cancel the hyper moves it just delays it for a sec
now blanka with his 3 hits and guile also hit enuff to cancel the hyper
im guessing the 3 hits is useful against the lag in the game.. so 1 hit is no use against the lag =)

ewalk 09-10-2001 09:49 AM

good point lord... but im kinda braindead... venom's hit doesnt cross the screen? oh right i remeber now... yea he kinda sucks. I think guile + blanka kinda beat out venom and sentinel by a long shot!!! something;s gotta be done to even them out no?

Lordcyris 09-10-2001 09:54 AM

yes they can be evened out

ewalk 09-10-2001 11:29 AM

Quote:

Quote: from Lordcyris on 12:54 pm on Sep. 10, 2001
yes they can be evened out

well no shit dude... i know they CAN be evened out, lol

but will they and should they!! was the opinion im looking for...
:):):)

Selvin 09-10-2001 04:06 PM

SENTINEL SUCKS
SENTINEL SUCKS
SENTINEL SUCKS

He is to slow
He is to predictable
He has the worst move

SWITCH SENTINEL WITH SPIDER-MAN

and by the way airlock is right
helpers should be able to be hit

SENTINEL IS NOT A HELPER HE IS A DISABILITY

ewalk 09-10-2001 10:17 PM

heheheh i'de agree with you selvin but i promised to stop bitching about sentinel so... SENTINEL RULEZ *cough*

Selvin 09-11-2001 04:57 AM

ATTACK OF THE CLONES WILL BE THE ULTIMATE STAR WARS MOVIE YET!

"cough" nothing to do with this game "cough"

CptnAmerica 09-11-2001 11:22 AM

what the friggin heck ?!!! do you all have colds? is your house being filled w/ toxic gas?! what's with all the coughing?! jk anyway yea sentinel sux but that's not my beef exactly...heres what i mean:how does the helper work exactly, as far as getting one of the four? what i mean is , is it random?does it cycle through according to how many times you play you get a different one?i'm just wondering cuz i get sentinel all the stinkin time! and i've only had guile maybe 3 times...i played 4 games yesterday and every game i played i got sentinel , after that it switched between blanka and sentinel. i'd like to get guile more often as others are getting major combos on me. plus i dont like how you can stop a super with your helper, and i think that yea your helper should get sent away when attacked but at the same time i like how they dont get affected by attacks.so - there you go , that is caps take on the subject , but something has to be done with the helpers,maybe you can add more, but not spider man!! he needs to be a player!!! not a helper! (spidey freak-catch the movie next year in may 2002!!!)CAP OUT!

Warmor 09-11-2001 12:02 PM

YES that movie is going to rock!! But uh anyway...

Spider Man will be a player for sure! The cool thing with Helpers is he can make them anything he wants, and I kind of vote that they stay not getting attacked, since all they do is help. Like in the first MvC, helpers come and can't get hit, but in the 2nd one your helper is also your partner so yes he can get hit, so it's good to not let them get hit, and if they did they would be useless because they would get hit alot.

I think we need to wait and see how sentinal works out, and if he has any tweeking it will probably be his speed. Right now he may be the worse but to me he looks the coolest ;)

Lordcyris 09-11-2001 12:10 PM

yes the sentinal does look pretty kew1
i agree

Selvin 09-11-2001 01:14 PM

"cough"

CptnAmerica 09-11-2001 01:34 PM

hey selvin i hope you feel better, and for sw ep II , it's gonna rock , count dooku is gonna rock, the clones are gonna rock, and bobba fetts' pappy is gonna rock!:D

ewalk 09-11-2001 09:31 PM

my cold is gettign better aswell!!!

*cough*

Selvin 09-12-2001 01:20 PM

darth maul should have never died

"cough"

CptnAmerica 09-12-2001 01:38 PM

hey how do i get more dots next to my name like you guys? basically how do i become a junior member..etc.?

09-12-2001 01:58 PM

get 50 posts

CptnAmerica 09-12-2001 03:30 PM

hmm sounds simple enough...

CptnAmerica 09-12-2001 03:31 PM

maybe i'll give that a try considering i have 43 posts... where'd you get this info from by the way?

ewalk 09-12-2001 04:11 PM

50 posts = junior member **
100 posts = member ***
150 posts = full member ****

i dont know if anything happens at 200

CptnAmerica 09-12-2001 04:55 PM

oh thought it was club that i couldnt join or something!haha

ewalk 09-12-2001 09:17 PM

#### nothing happens once you hit 200 posts!!!

:(

Selvin 09-13-2001 04:29 AM

ewalk friendly question

do you spend more time fighting or trying to respond to ever #### article to beomce a Jr. Member, Member and Full Member. I am just wondering cuase I have never facced or seen you

ewalk 09-13-2001 09:53 AM

well right now im mostly on the forum because of the brawl and shit, so i got tons of crap to reply to, so i reply to everything.... you'll see me soon in the ring dont werry :)

Selvin 09-29-2001 12:06 PM

Um, I have faced 3 people and been unble to use my helper. I can do all other moves, but my helper won't come out. Please help.


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