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TMyApp 03-31-2002 02:25 PM

i CANNOT stress this enough, 0.3a is a BETA version of the 4 player mode, thus, it is full of bugs/problems.. so, go easy... post bugs once.... then WAIT for them to be fixed

over the next few weeks, the version will be touched and re-touched until it is semi-perfect... until then, feel free to use the "quick challenge" option, it should be just like the old versions.. same 1 on 1, tag-free (and less-buggy) action :biggrin:

also, a LOT of the features have been either disabled or not included in this release... some of these include:

-observers (disabled for now)
-game timer (set to OFF no matter what the options are)
-lag compensation (has NOT been tweaked for the 4 player mode)

and so on...

some of the known issues are:

-player control (somtimes the player does not respond right, or is "frozen" on screen)
-various graphic glitches (random graphics displayed or not cleared properly, palyers landing BELOW the ground, or some sounds NOT being played when they should be)
-various problems with the "Tag"
-rematch option may NOT always work
-various problems with joining/leaving/starting the new chat system (it is always a good idea to talk to the other players, to make sure they are there b4 starting the game, )

and so on....

after all said and done.. just... give it time... and all should be well :biggrin:

Dan Hibiki 03-31-2002 03:15 PM

Even in practice I can't achieve a FPS rate of over 9 frames per second. All windows closed other than the game, no tasks running. Usually I get a rate of 18 frames per second or 20 frames per second, so it is about half as fast (FPS-wise).

Maybe that wasn't noticed 'cause you guys have computers that are nice and fast with plenty o' resources :cheesy:. If it'll help, I'll post tomorrow what the processor speeds and such of this computer is (don't know it offhand; gotta ask my older brother on that one and he is out right now).

TMyApp 03-31-2002 04:49 PM

yes... let me know what type of system u have...

as for performance, i will see if i can tweak it a bit more to speed things up :biggrin:

1 on 1 tag-less games however, should run @ about the same speed....

LuminaWolf 03-31-2002 04:53 PM

I don't even see servers...

manontherun 03-31-2002 04:59 PM

Hey TMyApp sorry to bother you but I notice that the select a character time limit is not working. Some guy name(drog2000185) is trying to make me quit he is continuously cursoring all three characters. I don't know if it was always like that but if should be fix in the future....good bye

BTW he was player 2

manontherun 03-31-2002 05:08 PM

Also everybody is getting kicked for flooding when the didn't do anything. I just saw TurkeyX get kicked for nothing weird.

fear tetsuo 03-31-2002 05:16 PM

Well i just got done with a 2 on 2 tag match with:TarkanX and Lordcyris vs fear_tetsuo and Nferno666. It wasnt too bad, but it is alot harder to get out supers. The ping was usually 1000+ the whole game. I played 1 on 1 tag-free, and it still seems harder to pull off supers for some reason. And some guy can make chun li fly, literally. He hade her stay up in the air for atleast half the game. Well thats it for now. *tips hat, good job tmyapp*

Nferno666 03-31-2002 05:24 PM

the game ran fine with me...i got a fps of 37 on 4 player with them and supers were easy to do like usuall and i couldn't go in practice but i closed the game window and reopened it and the game inproved even more and it goesd as fast as it use too...i get from 33-39 fps in practice now

TarkanX 03-31-2002 05:30 PM

Well I have an average of 11 fps(which should mean thats its 2-3 times slower than the previous version). And sometimes, when we start a 4 player match, it stops at the char. screen, it's probably due to high lag.

manontherun 03-31-2002 06:09 PM

Or maybe you didn't listen to TMyApp... By not having the timer on (off) or having observers trying to watch.

UnKnOwN2002 03-31-2002 06:28 PM


UnKnOwN2002 03-31-2002 07:08 PM


TMyApp 03-31-2002 08:16 PM

manontherun: yes, there is a problem with the timer, still.. you can leave the selection screen and it will NOT count against you (atleast not yet), as for "kicked for flooding", it is just a msg, no one is getting kicked :biggrin:

fear tetsuo: 1st, do NOT trust the ping (since i had not time to "calibrate" it for the 4 player mode) ... as for the supers being harder to pull off, yes, it is a problem (and will be dealt with asap).. same goes for Li :biggrin:

TarkanX/Nferno666: yes, the game is a lot harder on the CPU now (new effects have been added, not to mention you now have to do 4 times as many calculations) but, all will be tweaked.. soon enough :biggrin:

UnKnOwN2002: how does the game freeze ?? just "locks up", with you not being able to move your character, and them standing in "idle" mode on the screen ?? (screenshots would also help QUITE a bit)... as for a "shake" (or "quake" as i call it), it is a brand-new effect.. NOT a bug :biggrin:

UnKnOwN2002 03-31-2002 08:21 PM

Ok, that's one less thing I need to worry about. :p
_________________________________

What I mean by frezing...

Means that the two players, me and the oponent don't connect...

He's hitting me while I'm not moving, I'm hitting him while he's not moving...

On both sides the oponent isn't connecting, and there for, doing no damage and forcing to leave the game, all four players.

I don't know how to explain better

(Edited by UnKnOwN2002 at 11:24 pm on Mar. 31, 2002)

Player53 03-31-2002 09:20 PM

I think this might be a problem. I did a ryu and ryu tag team super against someone twice, and it did 99 hits both times. Shouldn't it only be doing like 46? :D

Player53 03-31-2002 09:30 PM

Ohh yeah, I forgot. In that same game. We were lagging horid, but I'm absolutely sure that the opponents first guy was dead (unless for some reason it quit synching on supers). Anyway, he was ryu and wolverine. I killed his ryu and started working on the wolverine. WHen I did my tag team super, his ryus dead body would appear on the screen and bounce around as if getting hit. Then one time when I did a tag team super (two ryus), one ryu was on the left side of the screen,f acing left, firing off his shinku hadoken at the dead opponents ryu while my other ryu was on the right side of the screen facing right firing his shinku hadoken at my oppoenents wolverine..

Geeze, that's hard to explain, hope ya understand.


Also, this is unrelated, but I've had the pleasure of playing the real XMvsSF a few days ago, and noticed some major differences. Are you ever going to change these?

Ryu is not affected by gravity while doing his air Shinku Hadoken

Ryu's Super combo hurricane kick (forget the name), doesn't pull in opponents unless they're already fairly close.

I don't think wolverine can has that heal super combo. If he doesn't, I haven't been able to pull it off. :)

And then theres throws, tech hits, and ryu's super combo dragon punch which you're completely missing. I assume that's coming in the distant future though. :)

EDIT: One more bug I just found. Doesn't really matter since it's impossible unless you're in practice. But if I did two ryu and ryu tag team supers in a row, the second one while my other ryu was on his way off the screen from the first tag team super. Anyway, he doesn't come back out to do another one, so it's like doing a plain old shinku hadoken... And then the ryu who does it goes off the screen and you're left with no characters for about 10 seconds until one of the ryus jumps back out with his slow motion kick :)



(Edited by Player53 at 12:42 am on April 1, 2002)

Kingryu1 04-01-2002 01:06 AM

It wont even let me select a character!!!!! I tried it with my keyboard and the mouse and it still didn't work!!!!
I cant select a character on anything,not even on practice!!!!

Kingryu1 04-01-2002 04:36 AM

It's ok ppl I know what 2 do now. Sorry!!!

Dan Hibiki 04-01-2002 04:58 AM

For my computer's specs, TMyApp... this is a 500 mhz machine with about 262 megs of RAM.

Elena 04-01-2002 08:35 AM

Tmy i dont mean to add to ur problems but it wont let me practice i go to practice chose the characters and then nothing happens do u know how i can fix it i really need to practice

Lancer Px 04-01-2002 09:30 AM

guys i posted a strategy on general comments and strategy
it worked on me 4 times for tag team mode
try it
it might not always work
but its something that i did and worked
bye now

PROfessor 04-01-2002 09:32 AM

1. When I go to practice, sometimes it makes me second player and I cant start the game cause Barney can't select the speed mode to start practice.

2. I beat someone in regular one vs. one (quick game), when I KO'ed him the red Ryu pop out and was KO'ed too (black Ryu was KO'ed on the left side and the red Ryu was on the right side).

3. The game is UNPLAYABLE in LAG team mode, I can't do nothing but punch and kick ( I can't even do super jump ).

UPDATE:

I had Chun-li and Ryu, When Chun-li got KO'ed Ryu was able to do Infinite jumps. Once again I couldn't do ANY moves. I could'nt get one special out during the whole match but I managed to super jump once.

I figured out how you can end up as second player in practice. If you fight a match as second player then go to practice right after you'll be second player in practice.

(Edited by PROfessor at 1:15 pm on April 1, 2002)


(Edited by PROfessor at 1:16 pm on April 1, 2002)


(Edited by PROfessor at 1:20 pm on April 1, 2002)

Lancer Px 04-01-2002 09:36 AM

professor ill see if i can figure out any other strategy
i only got one for now and thats posted in the general comments a strategies

PROfessor 04-01-2002 10:19 AM

PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OLD VERSION... PLEASE!!!

**PROfe&#36&#36or drops to his knee's begging... eye's start to water :( **

Lancer Px 04-01-2002 10:25 AM

PROFESSOR!!!!
NO MAN
TMYAPP WLILL FIX EVERYTHING
REMEMBER HES THE BRAINS ON THIS GAME
(WELL I THINK)
LOL
J/P

Gothic Archangel 04-01-2002 10:27 AM

Quote:

Quote: from UnKnOwN2002 on 12:21 am on April 1, 2002
Ok, that's one less thing I need to worry about. :p
_________________________________

What I mean by frezing...

Means that the two players, me and the oponent don't connect...

He's hitting me while I'm not moving, I'm hitting him while he's not moving...

On both sides the oponent isn't connecting, and there for, doing no damage and forcing to leave the game, all four players.

I don't know how to explain better

(Edited by UnKnOwN2002 at 11:24 pm on Mar. 31, 2002)
Poor hit Detection....Wolverine's regular Bezerker Barrage connect's and then passes throught the opponent. Wolverine's Spinning Claw Does not go all the way up, He goes up and stays up there spinning for a short time.Then he goes BELOW the screen and floats right back up!!!! Like a Ghost!!!!! LOL :biggrin:

Lancer Px 04-01-2002 11:13 AM

I CAN NOT GET IN THEM
AND WHEN I DO....
ITYPE SOMETHING IN IT AND IT TAKES LIKE 20 SECONDS TO SEE IT ON THE SCREEN
TOO MANY PEOPLE GETTING KICKED FOR FLOODING
AND THEY DONT EVEN TYPE
PLEASE FIX THIS

deathstrike23 04-01-2002 11:17 AM

i can't get the practice match started:cool:

deathstrike23 04-01-2002 11:26 AM

i can't do any of the supers sometime or special. some time i'll do way more damage on the other player but it there life doesn't go down.:cool:

Gothic Archangel 04-01-2002 11:33 AM

Quote:

Quote: from Lancer Px on 3:13 pm on April 1, 2002
I CAN NOT GET IN THEM
AND WHEN I DO....
ITYPE SOMETHING IN IT AND IT TAKES LIKE 20 SECONDS TO SEE IT ON THE SCREEN
TOO MANY PEOPLE GETTING KICKED FOR FLOODING
AND THEY DONT EVEN TYPE
PLEASE FIX THIS
TmyApp already stated that no one is being kicked. It just says they are, but they are NOT....

deathstrike23 04-01-2002 11:51 AM

[quote]Quote: from PROfessor on 12:32 pm on April 1, 2002
1. When I go to practice, sometimes it makes me second player and I cant start the game cause Barney can't select the speed mode to start practice.

2. I beat someone in regular one vs. one (quick game), when I KO'ed him the red Ryu pop out and was KO'ed too (black Ryu was KO'ed on the left side and the red Ryu was on the right side).

3. The game is UNPLAYABLE in LAG team mode, I can't do nothing but punch and kick ( I can't even do super jump ).



(Edited by deathstrike23 at 2:53 pm on April 1, 2002)

DX Zero 04-01-2002 12:38 PM

there is still the quik match like the old version.. PROFESSOR! dont u feel dumb...:biggrin:

PROfessor 04-01-2002 01:08 PM

Quote:

Quote: from DX Zero on 3:38 pm on April 1, 2002
there is still the quik match like the old version.. PROFESSOR! dont u feel dumb...:biggrin:
How do I fell dumb? huh? I know there's a quick match retard.
My problems are concerning the LAG team mode.

Selvin 04-01-2002 01:20 PM

Tag Team Mode doesn't really lag for me.

Lancer Px 04-01-2002 01:38 PM

tag team works 75% perfect to me
25% is screwed

fear tetsuo 04-01-2002 02:14 PM

Actually this isnt so bad, i have gotten used to 1 on 1 tag and for the most part it seems ok ( i still have some troubel getting out hadukens and supers). I am not gonna use 2 on 2 tag yet until tmyapp fixes the problems in it. Although i might use it for fun and try to work around the problems in it. So all in all this aint so bad.

04-01-2002 03:04 PM

ya but game freezes alot ..

DX Zero 04-01-2002 08:57 PM

then why did u say this??
Quote:

Quote: from PROfessor on 1:19 pm on April 1, 2002
PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OLD VERSION... PLEASE!!!

**PROfe&#36&#36or drops to his knee's begging... eye's start to water :( **
retard.. the new version has more features and u can still use the old ones why would u want to go back?

TMyApp 04-01-2002 10:11 PM

well, 0.3b JUST went live...

a ton (or more) of bugs were fixed... so many that i won't even bother posting a list (mainly because i'm lazy and tired) :biggrin:

but, there are still quite a few (a lot which HAVE been mentioned here) that were not even touched (i am after all ... *counting*... just one man) :biggrin:

but... just know this... i hear ya... and everything is being fixed as fast as it can... so, again, just hang in there....

fear tetsuo 04-01-2002 10:23 PM

Holy shit tmyapp thank you soo much for this new update. *fear tip's hat* I just tried out this new version .3b and let me say it is alot better. Pulling off supers and hadukens are much easier then .3a. You are the man tmyapp, keep it up.


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