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Nantuko Joe 10-30-2002 07:41 AM

Tark, there is only one thing I don't know about DBZ. That is, the ages of the characters at various points in the story. Therefore, could you supply me with the ages of the characters at the conclusion of the Buu saga? Those, and the age of Vegeta when Planet Vegeta was destroyed (i think he was 5, but I can't be sure

stjames 10-30-2002 04:05 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]Tark, there is only one thing I don't know about DBZ. That is, the ages of the characters at various points in the story. Therefore, could you supply me with the ages of the characters at the conclusion of the Buu saga? Those, and the age of Vegeta when Planet Vegeta was destroyed (i think he was 5, but I can't be sure[/quote]
well vegeta is 7 when its detroyed and goten is 6 and trunks is 7 one year older then goten see and ithink son goku is around 34 or 35 i saw in a japan movie i no some japan and crean so i no and iam a beaner well GH is 15 and picalo well i dont no vedial 14 chi chi is 34 or 35 caus well shes like the same age of goku pan if your wadering is 12 in the gt series and BUU is about 2 millian years old well i dont no korin or king kia or shin or kabito or denday well GH and denday were the same age in the vegata series so that means hes probly 15 ???????? :laughlong: well we may be freaks of DB DBZ DBGT

princevegetam 10-30-2002 04:08 PM

use grammar

QUIET_KILLER 10-30-2002 04:18 PM

[quote:post_uid4="princevegetam"]use grammar[/quote:post_uid4]
[color=blue:post_uid4]Vegetam how come's you did say something about this dbz topic :shocked:

Also how old is majinbuu?

Also would he be as old as bobidi or was it bibidi?

Or would he be simply as old.

As the magic itself that was used to make him?

Sorry to ask that but I just wondered.

I don't think any one has ever asked that ? before

Is he really around the age of 1 or 2 million year's.

How old is really old.

I mean does any body know the age of the Kai's

If they had I would have probably read it and remembered it
:biggrin:

I apologize if has been asked before ok forgive me :(

Hey vegetam what about my grammar is it still bad.

Not including the ZzZz....... :biggrin:[/color:post_uid4]

princevegetam 10-30-2002 05:05 PM

yes it is still bad, but kind of improving, how old are you anyways?

Nantuko Joe 10-30-2002 05:50 PM

Great. My serious question topic has turned to spam.

Can someone who speaks english tell me the answer?

stjames 10-30-2002 08:00 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]Great. My serious question topic has turned to spam.

Can someone who speaks english tell me the answer?
[/quote]
sorry iam new to this country ??? if you did not understand go to dragonballmaster.com and you will no the answer i made the page with better grammer

sk8erfox805 10-30-2002 09:41 PM

isnt this question for tarkan??

SSJKarma 10-30-2002 11:32 PM

nantuko: i think vegeta and goku are much approching the 40th and there is a fact that vegeta is 7 year older then goku !

yes goten is born one year after trunks.
you don't actually knowing the age of those characters as their age isn't really mentionned in the serie.
thus making this an incrdible question indeed, but i think there is not much of an answer who could be done.
it is just like those power levels thing.

Nantuko Joe 10-31-2002 04:26 AM

I heard from somewhere that Goku is in his 50s or something at the end of DBZ, while Vegeta was in his 60s, then I heard something else.

And where teh hell is tarkan?

And stjames, that site sucks. No offense.

TarkanX 10-31-2002 05:50 AM

Buu Saga or end of DB"Z"?

Buu saga:
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Goku: 38
Gohan: 16
Vegeta: 44
Krillin: 38
Tenshinhan: 41
Yamucha: 41
Goten: 7
Trunks: 8
Piccolo: not quite sure, probably 16-20


End of DB"Z"
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add 10 years to each one of them.

Nantuko Joe 10-31-2002 05:53 AM

This is the beginning of the Buu saga? That can't be right. At the end of the Cell Games, Gohan was 12 (remember, + 1 year for the ROSAT training), then I think there was a 7-year period of time between Cell games and Buu saga. Wouldn't that make Gohan 19? Then Goku would have to be a little older, because at the beginning of DBZ, wasn't he into his 20s?

I'm not trying to start a debate, don't get me wrong. I'm just trying to clear up some confusion on my part.

TarkanX 10-31-2002 05:21 PM

In the Anime, at the Cell games, he's 11, in the manga, he's 9. The Buu saga is 7 years later.

princevegetam 10-31-2002 05:24 PM

so gohan turned SSJ 2 at age 9?! that is disturbing

stjames 10-31-2002 05:48 PM

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]so gohan turned SSJ 2 at age 9?! that is disturbing[/quote]
there is a lot of series of states there all divrent words but i think tarks right but gohan is in high school so well in the american series in japan he's in college

Gotenks13 10-31-2002 08:19 PM

Hhmmm...where can I get the magna? Remember, my town sucks. I don't have much of a choice on what to debate on because all I can get is the English version.

Piccilo is quitre a bit older than Gohan. I think about 6 years. Piccilo Daimou was defeated by Goku when he was...13 or 14...or 12. :biggrin: So, if Goku and Chi Chi had Gohan when Goku was...18 or 19 (help me...), and it was four years afterwards, then Gohan would be 4 and Piccilo would be 9 or 10.

That means that during the Buu saga, if Gohan was 16, then Piccilo was 24, and Goku was...umm...nevermind.

SSJKarma 10-31-2002 10:55 PM

i'm asking a really big question here ok !

9 year old ? that cannot be true even in the manga !
why ?
reason:
1 - in the serie, he is in "COLLEGE" at the begining of the buu saga ! COLEGE = minimum 17 years old

2 - "IF" he were in HIGH SCHOOL, that still doesn't make sense. HIGH SCHOOL = 11 years old.

do the math on your age and calculate the time it took you to be at HIGH SCHOOL and you'll know why this isn't possible for him to have 9 !

i would believe that 18 years old would be a good answer !
let me try and calculate from start...
beginning of DBZ = 4
sayien saga = 5
2 year after namek saga = 7
3 year training before androids = 10
1 year training hyper bolic time chamber = 11
7 year after CELL = 18

no, he's definitely 18 year old at the beginning of the buu saga !
well not exactly...
REAL AGE = 17
PHYSICAL AGE = 18

that's about it.
if you think my calculs are wrong you tell me it !

EDIT:
in the 9 movie, GOHAN IS 9 year old... but since this movie doesn't fit in the serie then we cannot use that to determined his real age !

Nantuko Joe 11-01-2002 04:38 AM

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in the manga, he's 9.
Is that including the time he spent in the Room of Spirit and Time?

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hyper bolic time chamber
OMG, that's funny :laugh:

SSJKarma 11-01-2002 12:19 PM

sorry, i didn't use the real name !
i use the one in the serie !
sorry i meant ROOM OF SPIRIT AND TIME
but you must admit that my calculations are correct !

except for one point !
exactly how much time passes before everyone like krillin, yamcha, tien, chaozu got revived afetr the NAMEK saga ? i putted 2 years but i doubt it was exactly that ! i am sure it is more then 1 year thoo !

Nantuko Joe 11-02-2002 11:51 AM

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but you must admit that my calculations are correct !
No, you made some mistakes

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1 - in the serie, he is in "COLLEGE" at the begining of the buu saga ! COLEGE = minimum 17 years old

2 - "IF" he were in HIGH SCHOOL, that still doesn't make sense. HIGH SCHOOL = 11 years old.
If you're 11 years old, you're not going to be in high school. You're gonna be in 5th grade. 99.9% of ppl aren't in high school until age 14-15. And you're not in college until at least age 18.

And Gohan was not in College in the series. I'm sure he was in High School.

You see, your calculations are going by the Anime/English series. However, I believe that Tarkan is getting them directly from the Japanese Manga, which is the OFFICIAL source of everything DBZ.

However, I'm still waiting for Tark to answer my Q

princevegetam 11-02-2002 12:28 PM

and SSJKarma is gonna go crazy next, cause he thinks nantuko is saying that he doesn't know anything

Nantuko Joe 11-02-2002 02:50 PM

Bah, that's the last thing I need, Karma yelling at me that I think he doesn't know anything. Don't instigate him princevegetam

Gotenks13 11-02-2002 07:24 PM

Nantuko Joe and the rest of you are constantly ignoring my posts and its very annoying. You may not be doing it on purpose, but I get enough of this outside of my internet life. Please help me.

SSJKarma 11-02-2002 09:32 PM

my calculation are all corrects except for this one...
afetr namek where they takes the nameks dragonball to revive everyone one by one. you know the one where they try to revive goku but the dragons doesn't revive someone who is dead !

except for that, it is CLEARLY said !
next, i was in high school at the age of 12 !
college would have been at the age of 17 if i would had pass my my fifth high school class !

just one question...
i'm based off my own age to find these !

i think i am very right as 9 isn't possible either !
think...
begining of DBZ gohan was 4
fight with nappa, gohan was 5
after namek saga, gohan was 7
at the androids saga, gohan was 10
after ROSAT, gohan was 11
it is all that correct. unless that reviving thing with the nameks DB, never happened. there is just no way gohan could have been 9 !

i really think i am RIGHT this time !
TarkanX: do us a favor and PROVE US how you got to 9 !
just don't tell the manga said so, cause i doubt they said he was 9, or they made a very big mistakes !
do what i did and calculate it...
unless you ripped out the whole nameks saga, there is no way he could had been 9

Gotenks13 11-02-2002 10:23 PM

Just shut the f!@# up and look for the ages on the net...

Please ignore what I have just said above. I'm ticked off right now, so no flaming...please continue debating.

I'm not sure, but Tarkan might be right. I have heard that Gohan was 26 at the end of DBZ, that means that he was 16 during the Buu saga, and 7 years before that he was 9, not 11. I still need proof...

Nantuko Joe 11-03-2002 06:22 PM

Quote:

next, i was in high school at the age of 12 !
college would have been at the age of 17 if i would had pass my my fifth high school class !

just one question...
i'm based off my own age to find these !

What the hell state do you live in that you got into high school at age 12? What are you, some kind of super-genious that skipped two grades? Normal ppl don't get into high school until age 14/15 (without staying back a grade).

I also think that Gohan was 16, but can't be 100% sure.


Quote:

Nantuko Joe and the rest of you are constantly ignoring my posts and its very annoying. You may not be doing it on purpose, but I get enough of this outside of my internet life. Please help me.
Sorry man. Tarkan gave me a site that has a directly translated manga, but unfortunately, the entire Saiya-jin Saga is not included. it's http://www.dbz-fan.net/manga/shtml. You need Quick Time to view the files

blossom 11-03-2002 11:27 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]
Quote:

next, i was in high school at the age of 12 !
college would have been at the age of 17 if i would had pass my my fifth high school class !

just one question...
i'm based off my own age to find these !

What the hell state do you live in that you got into high school at age 12? What are you, some kind of super-genious that skipped two grades? Normal ppl don't get into high school until age 14/15 (without staying back a grade).

I also think that Gohan was 16, but can't be 100% sure.


Quote:

Nantuko Joe and the rest of you are constantly ignoring my posts and its very annoying. You may not be doing it on purpose, but I get enough of this outside of my internet life. Please help me.
Sorry man. Tarkan gave me a site that has a directly translated manga, but unfortunately, the entire Saiya-jin Saga is not included. it's http://www.dbz-fan.net/manga/shtml. You need Quick Time to view the files[/quote]
whoa mr Karma..... are you from france or somewhere in canada?

i think they advance in school a lot differently than we do in the US.

TarkanX 11-04-2002 08:22 AM

Oohh... Sorry I haven't been posting lately, I've been doign some personal things lately. Anyways...

Quote:

there is a lot of series of states there all divrent words but i think tarks right but gohan is in high school so well in the american series in japan he's in college
He's in High school in the manga, Orange Star High School, in the Anime, he's in high school, and as well as the dub version.

Quote:

1 - in the serie, he is in "COLLEGE" at the begining of the buu saga ! COLEGE = minimum 17 years old
He was in HS, not college, and I was 18 in HS(graduating)

Quote:

i would believe that 18 years old would be a good answer !
let me try and calculate from start...
beginning of DBZ = 4
sayien saga = 5
2 year after namek saga = 7
3 year training before androids = 10
1 year training hyper bolic time chamber = 11
7 year after CELL = 18
Beginning of DB"Z" = 3-4
Saiya-jin saga = 4
Namek Saga = 4
Trunks arrives =5
Android saga = 8
VS Cell = 9
Buu saga = 16

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no, he's definitely 18 year old at the beginning of the buu saga !
well not exactly...
REAL AGE = 17
PHYSICAL AGE = 18
no

Quote:

Is that including the time he spent in the Room of Spirit and Time
Yes

Quote:

i really think i am RIGHT this time !
TarkanX: do us a favor and PROVE US how you got to 9 !
just don't tell the manga said so, cause i doubt they said he was 9, or they made a very big mistakes !
do what i did and calculate it...
unless you ripped out the whole nameks saga, there is no way he could had been 9
The answer is I got it from the manga, you got your answer from the anime, manga is canon, so I am right.


Quote:

also think that Gohan was 16, but can't be 100% sure
Yes he is 16.

Nantuko Joe 11-04-2002 10:52 AM

Thanks, tark. So Gohan IS 16.

And are you POSITIVE that Goku was 38 and Vegeta was 44? Could you tell me how you arrived at that conclusion?

TarkanX 11-04-2002 12:12 PM

Goku had Gohan at 21, Goku is 25 against Raditz Saiya-jin saga is about 1 year later, then when Goku is on Yardrat is one year, so he is 27, then 3 years later, he is 30, he spends almost one year in the ROSAT, so he is 31, then 7 years later, he is 38.

Vegeta is 5 years older than Goku, and Vegeta spent 2 years in the ROSAT, so Vegeta is 6 years older than Goku.

SSJKarma 11-04-2002 12:23 PM

first: i live in quebec province in canada !
we have 6 years at PRIMARY school and 5 years at high school then we're gone to colege !
we enter primary school at the age of 5, for another reason i entered at 6
then do the maths and you'll know what i mean !

now...
clearly stated in the manga as well !
gohan was 4 when raditz came on earth.
clearly stated in the manga that he was 5 during the vegeta and nappa fight !
clearly stated the the namek saga was about 1 or 2 years
trunks arrive and he gets another 3 years of training
then cells come in and gohan trains 1 more year !
then 7 year later buu arrives !

EDIT:
that is with the same resoning as TarkanX...
he goku had had 21 when he got gohan and then he clearly say he had 25 when fighting raditzs !
now 25-21 = 4 year old
that's the age of gohan
now lets recalc...
4
5
6
9
10
he was 10 when he fought CELL and he is 17 !
but i really think 2 year passed before trunks came in !

princevegetam 11-04-2002 12:43 PM

tarkan, i would like to know what part of the manga states vegeta's age. where does it talk about his age?

TarkanX 11-04-2002 01:51 PM

It doesn't exactly say Vegeta is 5 years older, I just compared Vegeta(kid) to goku(baby), I'd say vegeta would be 4-7 years older than Goku(before ROSAT). But 5 seems most accurate.


Karma: How can I say this, let me explain again.

Gohan is 4 at the beginning of DB

Gohan is 5 in the Saiya-jin saga

Gohan is 5 on namek

Gohan 5 when Trunks comes

3 years later

Gohan is 8

ROSAT training

Gohan is 9

7 years later

Gohan is 16


Though it doesn't make sense...


Gohan trained with Piccolo for 180 days, I believe he is still 4, maybe 4.5-4.7.

Namek saga was only a few days from the Saiya-jin saga, so he doesn't age.

The Trunks arrival was like 270 days, so Gohan would be about 5.3-5.5.

3 years later Gohan is 8.3-8.5

ROSAT training was for about 9 months, so Gohan is 9-9.3

7 years later, he's 16-16.3.

So I am right, and besides, it stats in the Manga "Gohan 16, goes to Orange Star High School" and the Buu saga is 7 years from the Cell saga.

Nantuko Joe 11-04-2002 02:58 PM

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So I am right, and besides, it stats in the Manga "Gohan 16, goes to Orange Star High School" and the Buu saga is 7 years from the Cell saga.
That's pretty much all you needed to say. You got that straight from the manga, and the manga is infallable.

But, could you also tell me how you reached those ages for Goku and Vegeta?

SSJKarma 11-04-2002 11:06 PM

now i am asking you, how do they revived CHAOZU, TENSHIHAN, KRILLIN, YAMCHA after namek in the manga ?

cause you seemed to have NOT COUNTED the time it took them to bring everyone's back AFTER namek !

again...
PICCOLO trained gohan for an entire year !
6 month of SURVIVAL
6 month of training
raditz telled they had 1 year before the saiya-jin arrival !
so gohan trained 1 year not 180 days !
180 days is the time it takes to the namek DB to regenerate !

that is why i say you're wrong about his age !
Quote:

Karma: How can I say this, let me explain again.

Gohan is 4 at the beginning of DB

Gohan is 5 in the Saiya-jin saga

Gohan is 5 on namek

Where's the time they took to revive everyone with NAMEK's DB that didn't allow to revive more then one person at a time ? you forgot to mention it !

Gohan 5 when Trunks comes

3 years later

Gohan is 8

ROSAT training

Gohan is 9

7 years later

Gohan is 16



TarkanX 11-05-2002 07:49 PM

Karma: I did put the time between namek, and when Trunks came, it was 270 days.

SSJKarma 11-05-2002 11:02 PM

270 days ?
there were 4 person to revive ...
if i divise that number by 4 i get ...
67,4 days ?

that's impossible the namek DB take more then that to regenerate !

TarkanX 11-06-2002 02:07 PM

Karma: damn you like to go in depth with useless things don't you....

SSJKarma 11-06-2002 04:20 PM

just forget about it if you don't even want to argu on things !

what i just think is IF you were saying right then there is clearly an error in the original manga. the nameks DB takes more then 64 days to regenerates !

Roll's Friend 05-26-2003 12:22 PM

At the end of Buu Saga Gohan is 18....
Goku was 38 or 39.
Krillen was 40 or 39.

ETC.....

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