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For those of you who wish to get the leaked version of
Eminem's album entitled "Encore" due out November 16th, 2004, hit this site up and follow the instructions. Opinions pertaining to the album have been varried. Leave your reviews and comments here. Eminem-Encore.net *Information obtained from HH411 of Gunitworld.com* -Chris |
just copped it, to what i heard so far its okay, im not really a fan of eminen and that just lose it song is frickin annoying.
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I deffinitly agree wtih you on that. I would have to say if you
are going to appreciate this album you have think of Eminem as a child and that most of his stuff is humerous. If you think of Em that way-- and not his demonic alter-ego-- than you may enjoy the album -Chris |
I can't believe no one from this forum wanted to check this
album out. I am very surprised. -Chris |
Again? Jeez his previous album was leaked too...Oh well, I read in the paper that the release date was moved to an earlier date.
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You are correct. November 12th is when the album will be dropping, now. -Chris Edited By Battleaxe22 on 1099722014 |
ha, i had predicted this he will be madd pissed off no doubt.
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I don't have much respect for someone who disses their own mother. I don't care what happened; it's distasteful and wrong. Without her, he wouldn't exist. Now, for my own sake, I wouldn't mind very much if he didn't exist. One less wannabe to worry about...
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:stupid: hmm... blaze ta might have a point :biggrin:
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^ he earned street credit..
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Wow, did any of you notice pip has over 6000 posts? I'm at a
loss for words. And you two are both correct, Blaze is by far the most insightful person in this community, with the exception of maybe Nantuko, where ever the hell he may be. -Chris Edited By Battleaxe22 on 1099840461 |
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yeah im going to have to agree with you he did and he's been doing his "thang" *if we like it or not* for a while now. Hes holding his own and can you really call him a wanna-be if he is achually doin' it? |
Yes, I believe you can. To be honest, I hate rap music. I find it all to be the same. but, I have some respect for Tupac. In fact, I would go so far as to say that I could even show some respect for a few other rappers. but, Eminem does nothing but diss others. His put-downs are getting weaker and weaker by the minute. I've seen wine-coolers that are stronger. He's a half-sane moron who's on the verge of lunacy. At least Tupac spoke about real-to-life things in his songs. You can't say that for Eminem because he's too busy dissing everyone left and right. Eminem will always be just another wannabe, but Tupac and those like him will have their memory to live on forever.
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^^ Half-sane or not he still has his own record company (Shady Records)and has made millions, 3 multi-platinum albums and the shady empire is still growing with that new shade45 channel. ill at least give him some cred for that.
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If riches define who you are, than this world is completely full of pathetic ingrates. Tell me. Does Bill Gates deserve respect when he is a ruthless business man who cares nothing for the small person? Does that Communist Dictator full of wealth and power deserve any respect when he kills his generals for no reason other than his own paranoia (Stalin)? Hmm? The answer is, unequivically, no. It is moronic to say that those 'accomplishments' give Eminem anything more than money and fame. I believe it to be common sense that money and fame don't deserve respect. To be frank, this sounds weird coming from myself, being a wealthy Texan (as VF pointed out), yet it is the truth. Rich people, famous people, and others like them deserve no more respect than the simple garbage man making a living. If you ask me, that garbage man deserves more, for he's busy doing that which most find degrading to simply put food on the table. The same goes for the janitor, the teacher, and the other jobs that most overlook simply because they get paid crap and no one wants to do it.
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U no i never thought a rich person would ever admit to that
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No offense, by why are you people pointing out all the reasons why not to like Eminem in a topic about Eminem's new album being leaked? It's pointless and doesn't really relate to the topic. Anyways...I'm sorta "excited" about the new album that'll be coming out soon. I'm sure there will be plenty of entertaining songs to listen to. Question...Is the song "Just Lose it" gonna be included in it?
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Well, Jerry, Battleaxe said to leave your comments. We're commenting on Eminem, and that very much relates to the topic. It is, after all, Eminem's CD. :unclesam:
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Yup Dangermouse's grey album does own, the beat on encore is truely great..
back on topic. I am too looking forward to his album.. prob get it form irc in the end.. always a couple of kiddy, humourous songs which is great , then you get the real eminem songs, such as sing for the moment.. he is a musical genius, as is michael jackson. good day. :music: :music: |
I was going to post something along the lines of what Vf
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REALLY good song, i'm really really happy how dangermouse intercorperated it into the song. BTW: just to clarify, blaze is anti-eminem, anti-mainstream rap, pro-tupac. i am pro rap, pro eminem, pro-tupac. (even though he was all gagnsta gangsta at the top of the list) |
[quote:post_uid0="blaze985"]If riches define who you are, than this world is completely full of pathetic ingrates. Tell me. Does Bill Gates deserve respect when he is a ruthless business man who cares nothing for the small person? Does that Communist Dictator full of wealth and power deserve any respect when he kills his generals for no reason other than his own paranoia (Stalin)? Hmm? The answer is, unequivically, no. It is moronic to say that those 'accomplishments' give Eminem anything more than money and fame. I believe it to be common sense that money and fame don't deserve respect. To be frank, this sounds weird coming from myself, being a wealthy Texan (as VF pointed out), yet it is the truth. Rich people, famous people, and others like them deserve no more respect than the simple garbage man making a living. If you ask me, that garbage man deserves more, for he's busy doing that which most find degrading to simply put food on the table. The same goes for the janitor, the teacher, and the other jobs that most overlook simply because they get paid crap and no one wants to do it.[/quote]
i give him credit not because of his money, but the fact that he was able too get into the position he could, not everybody can own and produce your own record empire, the "garbage man" you talked about does his job not because he likes it, but because he has to, he hasnt got himself into the position to be a successful businessmen. look its easy to get a standard job picking up garbage* dont get me wrong im not saying the job's easy im saying its easy to get a job like that* but try become the owner of your own record company and sell millions of records, how easy you think that is? for any average joe that would be nearly impossible, for somebody coming from a run down neighberhood c--*spelling* where oppertunity comes around alot less often then i think that is a great achievement in itself...so...that is why i give Eminem respect and credit because he damn well earned it. |
First of all, VF, I'll deal with the Bill Gates issue first, considering I know much more about him than I do rap artists. It has been proven due to sources the news stations have documented that Gates donates money to many different causes, but he does this for two reasons. Number one, he's in trouble for a monopoly. He has to win favor in many people's eyes, and he does this by donating money to various causes. Secondly, he gets tons of tax right-offs for donating money, and this is his second reason for doing it.
Furthermore, I don't really give a poop what Tupac raps about. If I must, I'll get information on him from Masta since Masta is his biggest fan or whatever. Secondly, I'm not exactly pro-Tupac. I'm pro-Tupac is better than Eminem. In addition to that, I got Eminem's The Eminem Show Album, and I remember a line in one of his songs. It's something to the effect of kids wondering if he raps what he does. Later on in the CD (or maybe before, it doesn't really matter), he talks about shooting people and such because he's some sort of soldier. Yes, well, something tells me you won't blatantly admit to criminal acts you've really commited due to this thing we call a law. Oh yeah, and to add to the list of what Eminem tends to diss. I remember that song White America. Now, based on the title alone, it's all about being racist. Oh, does poor Eminem feel sorry for himself because people don't think white people can rap? Too bad. Oh, and then you can move on to the lyrics of the song. After I listened to it the first time, I had to honestly listen to it a second time just to make sure I heard it right. I don't care what anyone says or seems to think they know, that song is completely and utterly anti-America. People like him make me wish this was a Communist Dictator simply so he'd get executed. And, as I said earlier: I don't care what she's done, you don't disrespect your mom like that. Moreover, Eminem doesn't really run his own company. It's been compared before, and I believe it to be accurate. Eminem runs his company like Schwarzenegger (however the Hell his name is spelt) runs California. He has people do it for him; he's the figure head. To be completely honest, Eminem is not that smart. I know for a fact that VF, Chris, The Shiz, Warmor, and I are all smarter than he is. So, his 'company' doesn't really amount to much other than the fact that he's a good figure head. but, then again, so is Tony the Tiger. He runs his business very well, doesn't he? :sarcasm: I know that someone is going to come along and try to prove that Eminem is some genius or whatever, but he really isn't. Now to move on to the whole comparison to rock music. First of all, rock music is completely different from rap music, and the two are impossible to compare. I'm a lead guitarist in a band that plays at one of he local *insert whatever word you want to use that is defined by a place where you hang out*, and the two styles of music are so different, they're almost on two completely different sides of the spectrum. Anyways, I'm way too tired to continue this long post anymore. |
*side note* ya heard? 2-pac got a new CD coming out and its produced by Eminem, the 2 singles i got that will be on it are SICK as hell, this CD gon' be straight FiYa
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Now, I am one of the biggest supporters of Tupac, but I am willing to admit that he advocated violence-- in general-- as much as any lyrics expressed by the Shady/Aftermath/G-unit Crew. These two individuals are very much the same but have risen from different grass roots. They preach to his own and garner respect from all. If you happened to watch Tupac's recently released documentary entitled "Ressurection" Tupac reveals that a large quantity of his fan base is the White Community, and he is gratefull, for their interest in his cause is what puts food on the table for his existing children, today. The same can be said for Em; a large majority of his fans are ethnic minorities. Therefore, you have to put things into perspective and realize that these two individuals are similar in more ways than you can imagine. Em has ceased his excessive drug use and subsequently terminated demonic lyrics pertaining to the rape/murder of his ex-wife-- Kim Mathers. A sign that the angry white boy has commenced his movement towards maturity. He encountered a moment of clarity, or an epiphany. His daughter deserves all the love and attention he can afford to give her at this stage in her life, for a child cannot bear to see their father in jail. Give the man a chance. -Chris Edited By Battleaxe22 on 1099921627 |
I'm listening to the first (not counting the curtains up part) 2 songs and they explain many things of his life. Its like the songs know what Chris and VF are saying. I think I am crazy or something cause I actually understand most of what the songs say the first time. Listen to it first.
I like Eminem cause he doesn't normally repeat the same words 10 times over probably no more than 6. He actaully talks for more than 2/4 of the song without repeating the same words on what the song is about. An example just loose it: that song sometimes hets annoing but he only repeats the Now I'm gonna make you dance more than 5 times. They are sometimes funny, kind of sad, and just plain stupid (the good way as in say out many words and make up a song). Edited By raddaman0628 on 1099932674 |
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this topic has gone on about what Eminem has and hasnt can and cant do has done right and done wrong blaze985 said he isnt smart not by genius standards no but where he fits in hes f***n einstein yea he tlks about his mom did u hear anything vf said? and about white america did u care to stop listenin at the end when he says hes just playin and if anyone has anything else they can point out about how eminem sucks or has done wrong show me ur perfect and ill willing accept everything u say as fact
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VF, I got about halfway through your post and realized something. You didn't pay attention. For instance, you took me talking about the White America song by its title. If you would've paid attention, you would've realized I went into the actual lyrics of the song, as well. Therefore, I didn't judge the song by its cover. I clearly listened to the song. In addition, you repeatedly accused me of only listening to the songs once. I stated very clearly that I listened to that song again just to make sure I got the meaning. Moreover, you discussed the comment I made about him talking about shooting people. I was using what he said in that song to justify my reasoning that in the song where he comments on people asking if he raps what he does, he clearly doesn't. Therefore, he's just 'rapping' about stuff he doesn't even do. I wouldn't go as far as to say he doesn't know about it, for I realize he lived in a bad place. Yet, experience does, indeed, give you a new understanding of what the topic being discussed is all about. To be honest, anyone who raps about killing people is off their rocker unless they actually have killed someone. The same goes for shooting people. Killing/shooting people is not something to take lightly. Oh yes, you mentioned how I said that I don't care what Tupac rapped about. Well, it's true. I should probably care about what he raps about if I take the view that he's the best rapper or better than Eminem. Well, I know what Eminem raps about, and I don't like it. In addition, I've listened to Masta praise Tupac enough that I can have a good estimate of what he does rap about. I trust Masta, and I know he doesn't lie to me. If you want to say he's lying to me, that's your business. That song, White America, is anti-America. He even had to put that part at the end in there to try to save himself. The censorship that we have is based on what, VF? It's based on a government program. Thus, he's pissed at that program and what caused that program: the American government. You can't love America while hating its government. And, yes, he SHOULD thank her for not killing him. In addition, after all the emotional abuse she's had to accept PUBLICLY, I think it's just fine for her to give him some of his own medicine. To be frank, I have three friends who have single parents - moms. Two of those three people's moms say that they were a mistake and they hate them. Guess what. They don't hate their moms. They love their moms and respect them, and they don't condone Eminem's disposition either. Oh, and don't bring my family into this debate. My dad does run my household because that's what the Bible says. Fathers are to lead the household, and that's exactly what my dad does. My mom gives her opinion, but more often than not, her opinion is overriden. And, since you think that Eminem shouldn't love/respect his mom because she didn't kill him or abort him, I suppose his songs and his company share the same bond. Therefore, his company doesn't need to love, respect Eminem. Nor does it need him. One thing you failed to contend with is stock. You can easily buy out a company, and if someone were to buy out Eminem's company, it would run just the same. In fact, it could run even better, depending on the business man who took it over. Oh, and again... Rap and Rock are totally different. Notes don't define a genre of music. In fact, considering notes are in ALL types of music (yes, that includes Country), they can't be a valid point of reference. You must go into tempo, beat, instruments, and things of that nature. To do a rap song, you need a synthesizer, a rapper, and maybe, just maybe, a set of drums and a keyboard. The funny thing is, the rapper is what makes the rap song. Without the rapper, it'd be a version of techno or R&B. Rock music is totally different. What makes rock... rock... is not the singer. In fact, Metallica has proven time and time again that it does not take a vocalist to make a rock song. The simple emphasis on the two genres is enough to point out why they are impossible to compare. Furthermore, you can't take my statement about Communism to mean I'm Anti-American. The meaning behind that statement (you obviously didn't catch it and perhaps others didn't either) is that Communist Dictatorships don't allow such rebelious thoughts. Therefore, he'd be dealt with in a way that would silence him. As history shows, that is usually execution. Sure, Eminem might not deserve something as drastic as execution, but censorship is definitely good. Perhaps we should pass a law to uber-censor him. Oh, and since you love to pick on my "Communism is the best form of government ON PAPER" attitude, I'd like to make two comments about that. Number one, it's the truth. On paper, Communism IS the best form of government. Number two, I'm well aware of the fact that if this was a Communist nation, two things would occur. Number one, my family would no longer be rich. Number two, our nation would crumble... So, with that said, get off the "blaze is a Communist, and therefore against America" point of view.
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YEAH! WHAT HE SAID!
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[quote:post_uid0="KenDaShoto"]this topic has gone on about what Eminem has and hasnt can and cant do has done right and done wrong blaze985 said he isnt smart not by genius standards no but where he fits in hes f***n einstein yea he tlks about his mom did u hear anything vf said? and about white america did u care to stop listenin at the end when he says hes just playin and if anyone has anything else they can point out about how eminem sucks or has done wrong show me ur perfect and ill willing accept everything u say as fact[/quote]
I'm afraid you are going to have to let the big boys handle this one, my friend. -Chris |
Big Boys = VF and Blaze985
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You'll notice my input has been on par with the other two aforementioned members. Both of these individuals will agree that they can have an intelligent conversation with me, Ken, I have yet to see anything relevant posted on your behalf, however. Please do have a good day. -Chris |
twice u have insulted my intelligence and twice i have set myselfup for u to do so
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Please, please, please, VF, try quoting my posts in the correct context. When you simply quote "censorship is good" it makes me seem like an idiot, but in reality, I explained that take in my post. You can't disprove someone when you take what they say out of context...
And, I'll take your religious take on Adam and Eve first. That part about Eve being made from Adam's rib is not to be translated into them being equal. It shows that the women are dependant on the men, and it shows that the men should be the leaders. To be honest, it doesn't matter if you like that or not. This entire conversation is almost pointless, for this is based COMPLETELY on opinion. I don't like Eminem, and you do. Thus, my thoughts of Eminem can't be disproven, and your thoughts of Eminem can't be disproven. Considering opinions aren't fact, you can't disprove them. What I'm about to say shows my views on the situation of him and his mom, and most of you will disagree considering I'm one of the only true Christians in this community. With that said, here we go... Life is something you owe to God. And, God uses women for child-bearing. Thus, like it or not, you must be thankful for/towards that means in which He uses. In addition, psychiatry tells us that she wouldn't deal with the financial expenses that come along with the addition of a baby. She, more than likely, is only upset at the situation having a baby put her in, and now she looks back and is ashamed of her decision. but, I've been interrupted like... six million times, so I'm going to conclude this post for the time being. |
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