What are all the levels of super saiyan? if you know ALL of them post it here. if you're from japan you should have no problem doing this! p.s. my xmvssf name is yugimoto7 somone challenge me if you see me.

Super Saiyan: a certain power level (somewhere around 300,000) and intense rage is necessary. Causes increased muscle definition, golden hair, yellow ki, and green eyes, and increases a person's temper. A massive power increase not calculatable by math occurs as well.

Super Saiyan Dai 2 Dankai: also known as the Ultimate Super Saiyan 2, or the Ascended Saiyan. Increased muscle size, along with the effects of Super Saiyan are caused. A person's power level increases dramatically in this form, but mainly in the area of strength and only some in speed.

Super Saiyan Dai 3 Dankain: also known as the Ultimate Super Saiyan 3, or Mirai Trunks's Ascended Saiyan form. Muscle size increases DRAMATICALLY, often increasing the person's height by several inches, but because of the added bulk of the muscles it is a detriment to the person's speed. Super Saiyan Dai 3 Dankain has a MASSIVE strength increase, but speed suffers.

Super Saiyan 2: also known as Gohan's proper Ascension. Muscle size increases some (not as much as Super Saiyan Dai 2 Dankai), and strength and speed increase dramatically. Also the person's heart is overcome with rage the first time they use the form, far more than the first time in becoming a Super Saiyan. The user's hair (in the case of half-Saiyans whose hair is not in a fixed position all the time), the hair spikes up into the proper Super Saiyan position for the hair.

Super Saiyan 3: unlike the other Super Saiyan forms, Super Saiyan 3 causes the user's hair to grow almost to a length to reach the person's ankles, and the person's eyebrows disappear. Incredible power and speed increase, far more than Super Saiyan 2, but ki is used up so very fast in this form that it is hardly useful. Gotenks is the only character that even should use it; Gotenks doesn't exist long enough to suffer from the effects of the energy usage anyways.

AFTER THIS POINT I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT AGREE WITH ANY FORMS! I MERELY MENTION THESE BECAUSE THEY ARE IN GT AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ONLY DBZ FORMS OR ALL THE ONES THAT HAPPENED.

Golden Oozaru: supposedly the true form of a Super Saiyan if the person does not lose his/her tail. The person transforms into a golden-haired oozaru, and is far stronger than a standard oozaru.

Super Level 4: some people argue that it is called Super Saiyan 4, but that is just plain incorrect. Super Saiyans have the golden hair, green eyes, etc., and Super Level 4 has none of this. The user grows brown hair all over their body, and their eyes change color. The ki is still yellow, and if the person lost his/her tail previously the tail will grow back. Power increases massively along with speed.

dan, i can understand if you don't like GT but the fact is, it is officially considered a sequel to Z so, we're just going to have to accept it.

right u just got it from a website i can easly tell

shut up, little ####, dan doesn't need to copy off websites. you may do that, but dan can use his own knowledge.

[quote:post_uid0="DarkKilla"]right u just got it from a website i can easly tell[/quote]
I did not. I know the levels by heart, and also know a multitude of the nearly 260 different attacks used in DB/DBZ. I am a DB/DBZ Guru. Ask, and I shall tell.

[quote:post_uid4="Dan Hibiki"][quote:post_uid4="DarkKilla"]right u just got it from a website i can easly tell[/quote:post_uid4]
I did not. I know the levels by heart, and also know a multitude of the nearly 260 different attacks used in DB/DBZ. I am a DB/DBZ Guru. Ask, and I shall tell.[/quote:post_uid4]
Yo Thiz a classic reason why you should stick to the topic thiz could happen to you.You will feel kind of Krunchy.If some else is correct especially if you are trying to flame <!--emo&:lol: Hey I know that superlevel 4 is not real.However I have to admit It would be awesome if it were real.Also thiz is a ? I was going to answer however dan you beat me to it man :eek:

Back in canada...all of my friends and I have the 42 comics of DBZ...Is it the same in the U.S....btw in the series we are at Goku ss3 vs majin buu...Ur probably in the Gt series by now...are u ???

Nope, we are still in the Buu Saga of DBZ.

Dan: the fact are... it is SUPER SAIYEN 4 !

reason 1
they are saiyen after all

reason 2
they do goes super to get to that form

reason 3
it isn't made by akira toriyama, so it is normal that the other person have put differences in the story or even in the characters !

anyway, GT isn't really a big deal compared to DBZ. the Z serie had a good storys but GT just plain sucks. exccept for the BEBI part who is kind of original.

now AF is something to talk about !
i readed a lot of web site who are trying to pull out the fact that it is real, but finished by saying that it is a rumor. and lots of them says it is just a rumor. but why did i find a movie on kazza that is from that rumor ?

i am starting to wonder about it...

Yes...I have heard of this "AF" series...not sure that it exists...I found a AF pic of broli ss7 whit white hair (dont ask)

i can understand to see picture of such a DB !
after all, making picture isn't hard. but what i found is a MOVIE CLIP !


here is the explanation of what is seen in it...

nappa, in the middle of a city. he is calm and has a smile on his face, then he bring his finger up and the city just vanish in a burst of energy ! then he hear vegeta talking, he look back and the smile on his face just disappear. seeing vegeta standing on some rocks that was previously buildings. he makes fun of him (i don't know what is said since it's in japanese) then nappa rush on vegeta, but vegeta just smile and bring his hand in front of him then blast nappa with his all mighty BIG BANG ATTACK, and kill nappa ! then someone behind vegeta talk and vegeta reply to him and the movie clip ends there !

nappa = the nappa we see in the beginning of DBZ but he is better drawn and he seems as evilish as he was.

VEGETA = the one in GT, short hair, black jacket and black pants, with half gloves.

if you ever saw that scene from an DB episode, then just tell me. i have all 13 movies at home of DBZ and i know all the story from the DBZ episodes. and i never saw or hear about this in any of those. what is left, DBGT, but i know the story of it and i'm pretty sure it isn't in there either !

so there, what is this movie i found... tricked movie ? i doubt, not with the graphics that are in there... it is pure DB ! still, it's the only thing that can be of a DBAF series but no one would have heard of it ? that's really a shame to be stop with such rumors !

AF, some says it is...
"A"lternate "F"uture
"A"fter "F"uture

in any case, it is defintely an alternate universe since all DB or DBZ never actually happen in AF... it is simply another history of DB ! if anyone find out other weird movies that could be such a DB please advise me and i wwill look into it carefully !

that is total bull sh it, that part is from dbGT. it's when nappa gets revived. and vegeta just kills him. WATCH ALL OF THE DB SERIES BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS AND KNOW THE STORYLINE!!

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]that is total bull sh it, that part is from dbGT. it's when nappa gets revived. and vegeta just kills him. WATCH ALL OF THE DB SERIES BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS AND KNOW THE STORYLINE!![/quote]
yeah...ur right it is from GT...I downloaded that clip 2

have you ever read what i said ?
i said that i didn't know GT but only blimps of it.
i said that you should tell me if you saw that in any DB and you did so now i can say that it's not from AF or anything like that !

why did you yell at me ?
i never said that it wasn't in GT and had absolutely in AF, no i just said that i found a movie sying it is in AF. you tell me it's in GT, fine now i can rename the movie. DON'T YELL AT ME !

lol, i'm sorry if i hurt your feelings, i was just trying to make sure you get my point.

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]have you ever read what i said ?
i said that i didn't know GT but only blimps of it.
i said that you should tell me if you saw that in any DB and you did so now i can say that it's not from AF or anything like that !

why did you yell at me ?
i never said that it wasn't in GT and had absolutely in AF, no i just said that i found a movie sying it is in AF. you tell me it's in GT, fine now i can rename the movie. DON'T YELL AT ME ![/quote]
Cry Baby...boo hoo...j/k :biggrin:

I have never seen gt but have heard of it and it is a sequel. i only see dbz from dvd and toonami.

DBAF = nonexistent rumor started by fan with drawing
Super Level 4 = name I shall use to refer to that level

My logic to call it Super Level 4 is perfect. Super Level 4 has none of the characteristics of being a Super Saiyan except for the yellow ki.

U forgot the part that his hairy like an animal...(god the new version is taking too much time to download...I which I had high speed) :(

Oh man...you guys got me started....Dan...cover your ears...

I'm going to explain this calmly...

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>There is no Dragonball AF! There is no SSJ5! SSJ4 is not a SUPER Saiya-jin level.</span>

SUPER Saiya-jin Levels are characterized by Green Eyes and blonde hair. Does this "Super" Saiya-jin 4 form have green eyes and blonde hair? No. It has Black Hair and reddish/pink fur, and I think red eyes. Therefore, it is not a "super" saiya-jin level.

This "super" saiya-jin 4 is merely a power-up from the Golden Ozourou form.

But since DBGT doesn't officially exist, there's no point in talking about it.

Back in Japan, Akira Toriyama wrote one gigantic manga, and he titled it "Dragonball". When they made it into the anime, he cut it in half. The first half remained the title "Dragonball". This was the series that covered everything from the first manga volume all the way up to the point prior to Radditsu's arrival on earth. The section that covers Radditsu's arrival all the way to the death of Kid Buu is titled "Dragonball Z" for the anime.

Now, Dragonball GT is not an official series. No manga was ever written for GT, so it therefore does not exist. GT was an anime-only series created by some corporate assholes who wanted to cash in on the Dragonball craze. Toriyama took a very, very small part in it (like art director or something), but that was it. Dragonball GT does not exist, because there is no manga. If you can find me a Dragonball GT manga, then I'll eat my underwear.

Next, this "Dragonball AF" thing doesn't exist either. You know how you'd go to a DBZ site and there'd sometimes be a section called "Fan Fiction" and "Fan Art"? Stuff that someone just made up? That is what this "DBAF" thing is. In Japan, someone wrote up a fan-manga and titled it "Dragonball AF". He also drew a picture of what looks like SSJ3 Goku with reddish-skin and white hair. That is merely fan-art. Therefore, it is not a valad Dragonball series. It may EXIST in someone's basement or computer or something, but not on the official level.

That is why there are so many pictures of these "Hyper Gotenks" and "SSJ3 Vegeta" and "SSJ5 Goku" and "SSJ7 Brolly". Other ppl are drawing up their own characters and some morons are like "Oh wow! That must be SSJ5 Goku from DBAF". So please, enough with this Dragonball AF.

I dont belive in "AF"...I just told I find a picture ,thats all.Tell me more of the GT series...Maybe thats y sum fans were pissed of the GT series

Could someone plz tell me when GT will come out in english? :)

Could someone plz tell me when GT will come out in english? :)

sorry about that comp is gay

not really nankuto, i know all levels beyond SSJ3 is screwed up and abnormal, but you have to realize that SSJ4 is OFFICIALLY considered a level of SSJ. that description you gave of SSJ is a bit opininated and not exactly the truth. it's mixed up with your angered emotions of how DBGT dissapointed you. but everyone just remember, SSJ4 IS AN OFFICIAL LEVEL of SSJ. it's just ppl like nankuto and dan don't like it, cause it's abnormal compared to the DBZ SSJ levels and not created by Akira Toriyama. so, don't go around spreading false info.

p.s. a message from concerned children's advertisers(lol)

:angry: I'm not spreading false info. I shall say this very simply to you...

Akira Toriyama NO make DBGT. NO make. Akira Toriyama make DB? YES make. DB official? YES. DBZ, based on latter part of DB manga official? YES.

Akira Toriyama make DBGT? NO make. NOT official.

Transformation shown in DBGT Bebi Saga official Super Saiyan form? NO Super Saiyan form. Why? No yellow eyes. No gold hair. Not Super Saiyan. Super LEVEL.

For something to be truly official, and canon to the storyline of DB/DBZ, it must be made by Akira Toriyama. The movies CAN'T, absolutely CAN'T fit into the storyline (people are supposed to be dead all over the place in those), and DBGT CAN'T fit into the storyline either. Thusly DBGT is NOT an official part of the DB/DBZ storyline.

Dan, Nantuko...
as you probably know, Dragonball has been sold to someone else, so that MAKE THE NEW CREATOR the original creator. so SSJ4 is OFFICIAL cause akira isn't the official creator anymore.

that is our point !
like, i said. if you buyed some anime franchise then you wouldn't make the serie just like the old creator, you weould change it to your liking. that is exactly why SSJ4 is different from akira's vision cause it is not him who created it ! and you can't deny that fact. it is official cause akira has no right anymore !

ive seen up to kid buu on dvd and on toonami we are on ss3 goku tomorrow i think. gotenks looks awesome!!!!!
and on toonami they're verry close to the end of dbz 30 something episodes. up to veggito on toonami this time around

It wont be long for gt in english even though its a complete crap out like the live action movie it is a db series so i will watch it on toonami

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]Dan, Nantuko...
as you probably know, Dragonball has been sold to someone else, so that MAKE THE NEW CREATOR the original creator. so SSJ4 is OFFICIAL cause akira isn't the official creator anymore.[/quote]
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Did Akira make it in the first place?? YES HE DID! THAT MAKES HIM THE ORIGINAL CREATOR, AND HE SHALL ALWAYS BE THE ORIGINAL CREATOR!

Listen, this is what I'm saying.

Because the series Dragonball and Dragonball Z were based on a manga, they were official. Toriyama wrote this manga, and then created an anime series based upon it.

Now, these corporates came along and made a new cartoon based on Dragonball Z, and released it to the public.

However, no one ever wrote a set of manga volumes that pertains to GT. It was ANIME ONLY. Now, during the course of DBZ, there are many ANIME ONLY events that do not take place in the manga. Movies #1-13 and the Garlic Jr. Saga do not appear in any manga volume, and therefore never officially happened, for they are ANIME ONLY.

So basically, the entire GT series is one huge ANIME ONLY event. There is no manga. What GT is is a FAN-ANIME. In other words, fans of the show made up their own story and characters, and got it animated and broadcast on TV.

So if this were the case, and you guys are saying GT is official, that means that if I draw up a fan-manga and write my own fan-fiction and introduce it into the media mainstream, that this is offical, right?

Toriyama never SOLD the rights to TOEI to make GT.

Therefore, GT is not a valid, official series, and therefore, this SSJ4 form never happened.

IF, and I'm using IF just as an example, but If Toriyama were to draw up a new manga for a new DBZ series, I'm 99.9% sure that he would have it take place immediately after DBZ and not GT.

And the only reason this information is not getting through your thick skulls is because you guys are so determined to prove me and Dan wrong, and believe so much that you guys are the correct ones here, that you can't listen to reason.

[quote:post_uid3="Nantuko Joe"]Listen, this is what I'm saying.

Because the series Dragonball and Dragonball Z were based on a manga, they were official. Toriyama wrote this manga, and then created an anime series based upon it.

Now, these corporates came along and made a new cartoon based on Dragonball Z, and released it to the public.

However, no one ever wrote a set of manga volumes that pertains to GT. It was ANIME ONLY. Now, during the course of DBZ, there are many ANIME ONLY events that do not take place in the manga. Movies #1-13 and the Garlic Jr. Saga do not appear in any manga volume, and therefore never officially happened, for they are ANIME ONLY.

So basically, the entire GT series is one huge ANIME ONLY event. There is no manga. What GT is is a FAN-ANIME. In other words, fans of the show made up their own story and characters, and got it animated and broadcast on TV.

So if this were the case, and you guys are saying GT is official, that means that if I draw up a fan-manga and write my own fan-fiction and introduce it into the media mainstream, that this is offical, right?

Toriyama never SOLD the rights to TOEI to make GT.

Therefore, GT is not a valid, official series, and therefore, this SSJ4 form never happened.

[b:post_uid3]IF[/b:post_uid3], and I'm using IF just as an example, but If Toriyama were to draw up a new manga for a new DBZ series, I'm 99.9% sure that he would have it take place immediately after DBZ and not GT.

And the only reason this information is not getting through your thick skulls is because you guys are so determined to prove me and Dan wrong, and believe so much that you guys are the correct ones here, that you can't listen to reason.[/quote:post_uid3]
Wow huge accurate and D@ng true to the Bone also I have to admit I am wit my pal Joe here :withstupid: same for mista hibiki :withstupid: :biggrin:

i'm not trying to prove anyone wrong, it's the truth. you guys are depicting DBGT the same way as DBAF, which is not true. DBGT is not a fan anime. it was created by the same ppl who worked along side akira during the making of dbz. the only difference is that the one man, akira, didn't have anything to do with this (i'm talking about anime). akira got tired of making the db series, so he passed on the work to his colleagues. not fans.

[quote:post_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]Listen, this is what I'm saying.

Because the series Dragonball and Dragonball Z were based on a manga, they were official. Toriyama wrote this manga, and then created an anime series based upon it.

Now, these corporates came along and made a new cartoon based on Dragonball Z, and released it to the public.

However, no one ever wrote a set of manga volumes that pertains to GT. It was ANIME ONLY. Now, during the course of DBZ, there are many ANIME ONLY events that do not take place in the manga. Movies #1-13 and the Garlic Jr. Saga do not appear in any manga volume, and therefore never officially happened, for they are ANIME ONLY.

So basically, the entire GT series is one huge ANIME ONLY event. There is no manga. What GT is is a FAN-ANIME. In other words, fans of the show made up their own story and characters, and got it animated and broadcast on TV.

So if this were the case, and you guys are saying GT is official, that means that if I draw up a fan-manga and write my own fan-fiction and introduce it into the media mainstream, that this is offical, right?

Toriyama never SOLD the rights to TOEI to make GT.

Therefore, GT is not a valid, official series, and therefore, this SSJ4 form never happened.

IF, and I'm using IF just as an example, but If Toriyama were to draw up a new manga for a new DBZ series, I'm 99.9% sure that he would have it take place immediately after DBZ and not GT.

And the only reason this information is not getting through your thick skulls is because you guys are so determined to prove me and Dan wrong, and believe so much that you guys are the correct ones here, that you can't listen to reason.[/quote]
Answer me this question ...do u like the Gt series...If yes Y

as loing as i am concern with it nantuko...

YOU CAN'T DENY THE FACT THAT GT EXIST
nor will you deny those #1-13 movies !
when they have done those Gundam universe, have you said that they weren't true because they didn't reattach to the real story ? no, why ? because they were made and they were real, so is GT. it has been made and if you ask toei, they will not refer to SAIYEN LEVEL 4, they will refer to SUPER saiyen level 4. now that is the real answer, the SSJ4 exist cause TOEI created it that way and if you ask they will refer to it as SSJ4.

now if you want to argue on that it is simply because you hate GT as much as i do !
i really love those movies on DBZ and i know they don't attach to the story but i know they are DBZ and they are REAL !

my points exactly.

Now aren't you guys happy i made this so you guys could get all this out. :D

karma about what you said about gundum and dbz that they arent true i got another anime series to talk about ZOIDS.
the second series ive seen is good but ive never seen the first episode of it. since all the old characters sre in it shouldn't it be a parrallel universe like g gundam?

DBGT is simply a fan-anime that was created by a corporation and got the approval of a distressed Akira Toriyama simply because he was growing aggrivated of the ppl complaining to him to bring back DBGT.

And these are NOT the same ppl who worked alongside Toriyama, this is a totally different company.

no.

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Sighs and massages forehead headache in frustration</span>

Not once, Karma, not once did I say taht they didn't EXIST. Of course they EXIST, they are written on paper, they are on video tapes across the world. I never said that GT didn't EXIST. I said that events in GT didn't officially OCCUR. What I am trying to say is that they DID NOT OFFICIALLY HAPPEN IN THE DRAGONBALL HISTORY. If you go through every single movie, you will be able to find at least one reason why the movie couldn't have happened in the DBZ timeline. And I have one huge general fact that proves this.

Find me a time during either the manga or the anime when a character even mentions a character from the movies. Not once does Furiza mention his brother Kooler. Not once does anyone mention Garlic Jr., Dr. Wheelo, Tares, Lord Slug, Brolly, Janemba, Hiredugarn, or Bojack. Not once. The movies were created just to integrate new and potentially money-making characters into the DBZ genre. However, they do not fit into the DBZ timeline, and you therefore cannot say that they actually happened. They EXIST, but they did not OCCUR.

I do not know about Gundam Wing, because I do not watch the show. Sure, the events in the movies (and in this case, GT)occurred, but not in the official, respective timelines. They occurred in the movie timeline. Lemme tell you why the DBZ movies never could have happened:

Movie #1: Return My Gohan! (Deadzone). It could not have occurred because in the movie, Kuririn already knew who Gohan was. However, in the first episode of DBZ, when they all go to Kamesennin's island, Kuririn, Yamucha, and Buruma have no idea who Gohan was, and was surprised that he was Goku's son. Therfore, inconsistency prevents the events from actually occuring.

Movie #2: The World's Strongest Warrior. It could not have occurred because the only point in time where Goku and Piccolo were alive and Gohan was still a kid was during the training period preparing for the arrival of the androids. However, Goku was already able to go SSJ during this period of time, and surely would have used it during the movie. However, he does not, and the first mention of Goku going SSJ in a movie is during Movie #4.

Movie #3: Ultimate Decisive Battle for Earth (Tree of Might). It could not have happened for two reasons. Reason #1: Gohan had a tail in the movie. However, in the DBZ timeline, Gohan's tail was removed by Piccolo in the wilderness. Reason #2: Tares states Piccolo's power level at 18,000. When he was killed by Nappa, he had a power level of around 2,000. When he was wished back and absorbed Nail, his pl was around 800,000. Therefore, at no point in time does he have a pl of 18,000.

Movie #4: Super Saiya-jin Goku (Lord Slug). First off, Gohan appears with Haiya-dragon (Icarus) in the beginning of the movie. Now, since Movie #3 didn't exist, that means that Haiya-dragon doesn't exist. Since Haiya dragon doesn't exist, Movie #4 didn't occur. Also, Goku doesn't actually go SSJ in the movie.

Movie #5: The Best of Strongest Versus Strongest. In the movie, I believe Kooler finds out that Furiza was killed the day after it happens, and goes to earth to kill Goku. Kamesennin states that Goku returned from Namek even stronger than before (this must be false, because Goku didn't return from Namek for like 3 years.) Therefore, the movie couldn't have happened. Plus, there was never any mention of Kooler in the normal timeline, and Haiya-dragon appears in the movie, further disproving the movie's occurance.

Movie #6: Clash!! 10,000,000 Power Warriors!. Since the first Kooler Movie could not have occurred, a movie that features him is therefore proven untrue.

Movie #7: Utmost Limits of Battle! The three Super Saiya-jin. It is stated in the normal DBZ timeline that during DBZ, Dr. Gero only made five androids (#16, #17, #18, #19, and an android body for himself, and he became #20). The utter fact that the movie contains androids #13, #14, and #15 further disproves the movie's occurrance, because there was also no point in time where the movie could have occurred, because of Cell, Goku dying, etc.

Movie #8: Burnout! Fierce Fight, Violent Fight, Super-Exciting Fight! Once again, there was no point in time where Mirai no Trunks was in the present and Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan were able to all go SSJ when Cell was not present and Goku was still alive.

Movie #9: The Galaxy's in Danger! The Super-Awesome Guy!. The makers of this movie tried real hard to fit this into the timeline, but made a mistake. In the timeline, Mirai no Trunks left the morning after Cell was killed. But he is still alive in the movie, which could not have taken place the next day.

Movie #10: Dangerous Partners! Super-Warriors never rest!. This could not have occurred because the first Brolly movie could not have happened. Since Brolly was introduced in teh first movie, he could not have existed in a second.

Movie #11: Crushing Super-Warrior! I Am The Winner!. A third Brolly movie cannot occur when the first two could not have occured.

Movie #12: The Rebirth of Fusion! Goku and Vegeta! There was no point in time where both Goku and Vegeta were dead and not only in the afterlife, but not preoccupied with Buu.

Movie #13: Dragon Fist Explosion! If Goku Can't, Who Can?. Could not have occurred because I believe in the movie, Gohan went SSJ, but this could not have happened because during the Buu Saga, the Rou Dai Kaioshin told Gohan that by maxing out his potential power, he could not go SSj anymore.

Now, that takes care of why the movies could not have occurred. They still exist, they're still physical matter, but the events in the movies could not have offically, truly occurred. Now GT still EXISTS physically, but didn't truly OCCUR. We know this because there is no manga volumes for what happened in GT. Toriyama created Dragonball, but not GT. Therefore, GT didn't officially OCCUR in the Dragonball time line.

First off, it's Super Level 4, not Saiya-jin Level 4. And if I made a Super Saiya-jin 5.9784 1/2 in a fan-fiction, and then made a cartoon out of it, does that mean that it actually happened in the DBZ timeline? Sure, the creators will refer to it however they please, but that doesn't mean that it actually, officially occurred.