Alright you kids, and adults alike.... I will debate on what marriage is all about. Agree, Disagree, I don't give a damn

I was having a debate earlier with one of my friends on what marriage was all about.


Me: There is no point in marriage

him: why do you think that?

Me: the only reason why people get married is so the man owns the woman

him: that's not true

Me: then disprove me

Him: The reason why people get married is to talk to eachother, about problems, or anything

Me: people can already talk to eachother without marriage

Him: people get married to make babies

Me: people can already make babies without Marriage

Him: It's honorable for all religions alike

Me: religion, pffft....

Me: why do you think when people get Married, their name changes from their last name, to the mans last name? Why can't they just stick with their own last name?

Him: *doesn't respond to question*

Me: That's what i thought. There is no point for marriage.


Respond!

remember this...

MARRIAGE is a sacred thing
what God unites, man must not separate
read the Bible... :buttrock:

Marriage take away freedom. i'm ever ever getting married.And i dont go to church anymore nor read the bible so marriage doesnt mean anything to me.

strong points u made tarkan

[quote:post_uid0="montalvo"]Marriage take away freedom. i'm ever ever getting married.And i dont go to church anymore nor read the bible so marriage doesnt mean anything to me.[/quote]
Lord...have mercy on his soul for he know not WHAT THE HELL HEs TALKING ABOUT :biggrin:

Why can't people just unite without wasting their time on something that is not needed? Why can't you just start a family without marriage?

Why read the bible? How is it known that it's true? It could be made up by some drunken man who just put words together.


I'd like to also point out... Not everyone in this world is Christian, and thus not everyone in this world reads the bible. There's Aethiests, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus.

Lord, have mercy on his soul also :biggrin:

[quote:post_uid0="bloodpack"]Lord, have mercy on his soul also :biggrin:[/quote]
Please quit your spamming, and get serious with this topic....

no im serious, marriage is not something to be taken lightly
it should be think 100 times b4 jumping to it
it means big RESPONSIBILITY :biggrin:

[quote:post_uid0="TarkanX"]Why can't people just unite without wasting their time on something that is not needed? Why can't you just start a family without marriage?

Why read the bible? How is it known that it's true? It could be made up by some drunken man who just put words together.


I'd like to also point out... Not everyone in this world is Christian, and thus not everyone in this world reads the bible. There's Aethiests, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus.[/quote]
i couldnt agree more.
Lokk my parents started a family and they werent married and they still arent today.
and how happy they are
*dish flies over montalvo's head and hcrashes into the wall*
but really marriage is a waste of money too. going thruogh all that process of buy all that useless crap that you'll only use once in your entire life. forget that.

just remember this no marriage ever lasts

marriage= divorce

:D

well, they can make it inexpensive if they choose to
whats important is their VOWS :buttrock:

[quote:post_uid0="bloodpack"]no im serious, marriage is not something to be taken lightly
it should be think 100 times b4 jumping to it
it means big RESPONSIBILITY :biggrin:[/quote]
Marriage is useless, it has no responsibility, and I totally agree with Montalvo, if you want to waste your money, play it on the slots, or something.

I believe it is necessary for two people to get married if they love one another. Once they get married they know they will always be together and will never depart. All people do not do this, so that is why they have the choice to divorce. The ring is a sign of loyalty. It tells your husband/wife that you will not turn on them.

you get married because you love someone........ and because when you ........... you dont have to worry about getting a disease.........

[quote:post_uid0="DanYankees"]I believe it is necessary for two people to get married if they love one another. Once they get married they know they will always be together and will never depart. All people do not do this, so that is why they have the choice to divorce. The ring is a sign of loyalty. It tells your husband/wife that you will not turn on them.[/quote]
If you marry, it doesn't mean you trully love eachother, why is there divorce? And the ring stands for the man owning the woman, not for loyalty, that's how it was way back when, and that's still how it is today.

[quote:post_uid0="akuma_forever"]you get married because you love someone........[/quote]
You can love someone trully without marriage.

Care to explain what exactly that means?

If your catholic and want a divoirce your screwed. You cant divorce in the catholic religion(although that wouldnt mean anything to me ). so whats the point in getting married?

[quote:post_uid0="TarkanX"]If you marry, it doesn't mean you trully love eachother, why is there divorce? And the ring stands for the man owning the woman, not for loyalty, that's how it was way back when, and that's still how it is today.[/quote]
We live in America-we don't have arranged marriages. People choose to marry if they love one another. Things have changed big guy. In the South they still may treat women like crap but in the North they're treated respectfully. They have many opportunities now and can live just as freely as men.

montalvo: If I would ever want to divorce, yes I would be screwed. But I'm sure that when I choose to marry a woman, she will be the "one."

Women have unequal oppurtunities everywhere compared to men, though some places have better conditions. Look at Pakistan, Women are just flies, I've seen chains around a womans neck, and a man dragging her. They were killed for cooking poorly, but compared to America, women are almost as good as men are.

Why does the Woman cook, and the man work? It might nt happen to all, but it's majority, the man owns the woman.

[quote:post_uid0="TarkanX"]Women have unequal oppurtunities everywhere compared to men, though some places have better conditions. Look at Pakistan, Women are just flies, I've seen chains around a womans neck, and a man dragging her. They were killed for cooking poorly, but compared to America, women are almost as good as men are.

Why does the Woman cook, and the man work? It might nt happen to all, but it's majority, the man owns the woman.[/quote]
Oh so you want to compare America to other countries? Well sure, women are treated badly in many countries. But why do you say women are treated almost as equal as men in America. You say they cook, but men cook too.

Men and women have just been stereotyped. Mothers are people who do the cleaning, cooking, and caring. The men are the people who earn the money and looks out for the family. That's not how it is now. Both men and women do the caring for children and make a living by having a job. It is now extremly rare to find an illiterate unoccupied woman.

no marriage ever lasts ... just dont get marriaged cause after the divorce comes yo life will be worse

[quote:post_uid0="TarkanX"][quote:post_uid0="akuma_forever"]you get married because you love someone........[/quote]
You can love someone trully without marriage.

Care to explain what exactly that means?[/quote]
std's.......

Of course Men cook, I cook, but it's just that women are house wives, and men are supposed to be the "superior" family members.

That is true now, but it still stands as Marriage = man owning the woman.

People that are married can still get AIDS, they just get tested for sex, that's it.

[quote:post_uid0="TarkanX"]That is true now, but it still stands as Marriage = man owning the woman.[/quote]
Examples.....

Tactics, comrades, tactics!

[quote:post_uid0="DanYankees"]Tactics, comrades, tactics![/quote]
Too good...

[quote:post_uid10="TarkanX"][quote:post_uid10]Oh so you want to compare America to other countries? Well sure, women are treated badly in many countries. But why do you say women are treated almost as equal as men in America. You say they cook, but men cook too[/quote:post_uid10]

Of course Men cook, I cook, but it's just that women are house wives, and men are supposed to be the "superior" family members.

[quote:post_uid10]
Men and women have just been stereotyped. Mothers are people who do the cleaning, cooking, and caring. The men are the people who earn the money and looks out for the family. That's not how it is now. Both men and women do the caring for children and make a living by having a job. It is now extremly rare to find an illiterate unoccupied woman.[/quote:post_uid10]

That is true now, but it still stands as Marriage = man owning the woman.

[quote:post_uid10]
std's.......[/quote:post_uid10]

People that are married can still get AIDS, they just get tested for sex, that's it.[/quote:post_uid10]
well if they test good then you have no worries unless they cheat on you...

ahem...in this debate...i haven't seen ne females in here...so i'm putting my word in this too...

that...is totally wrong...women have their own lives instead of being house wives. therez plenty of women out there that have jobs and work just like men. in my words, i think women work harder than men do. women have to supposedly take care of the children, AND do house work and many women work as well too! I think thatz like ANOTHER job than they might already have! and THEY dun get paid to do that job...

and men are NOT "supposed to be the 'superior' family members." Women can be just as superior.

thatz not tru either... women ARE as good as men. u might not see them in politics as much as men cuz u wanna kno why? sexist ppl out there...also women have their own lives, having a job, and doing wutever they want to do. u can't say that they are only almost as good as men. hell therez a whole bunch of WOMEN out there who have better jobs, and are smarter than MEN. and wasn't this debate on marriage? why are we talking about women compared to men. YOU may think that they are not as good as men and i bet many males think that too. but thatz wrong, cuz therez many women who are smarter than men, more educated than men, and i could just keep going on and on. Just like our president rite now. (sry for all of u bush lovers) bush in my eyes and many other ppl'z eyes is down right stupid. and therez prob thousands of women out there that could do a better job.

now for the marriage debate. i think marriage does NOT mean that the "men own the women." Marriage is about love and commitment. yes there are divorces but thatz only if the love you felt for him/her wasn't the same, or ne other reason. marriage is about the male and the female (...or whichever) coming together and being EQUAL because they love eachother. and also marriage doesn't always end up in divorce. therez plenty of married couples out there that are STILL married and they're pretty darn old. If the love is strong enough, the marriage will pull through and prosper.

okay, marriage is mostly useless. but it's okay when you REALLY REALLY love some one and the woman doesn't care about being a little under rated compared to the man.

anyways, stop it with the feminine views. no one is saying one sex is superior to the other. we're just saying that once you get married, the woman is USUALLY discredited compared to the man.

I agree with AngelWings.I may be a boy and young,but I have smart perspectives on life.Women are equal or greater than men in many different ways.They could be strong/stronger, fast/faster,smart/smarter,work harder(not equally unless they are the type who waste time on theirselves,but there are not a lot of these.Thus,most women work harder in cooking,working,babying,caring for,and counciling)and a crapload of other things.I actually usually prefer women to most things over men because they don`t have as large egos as men.Of course,some may,I`m not judging them as one whole living being.I don`t go around saying "women are evil",but only some women are evil,most will help me out in everything.And where did you you hear that thing about Pakistan?Get it from an 1800s newspaper or an actual source?Such as that in Japan,the women are never forced in any way to obey filial piety (the rule where the husband is superior and first male child is in second).I haven`t heard of any official law now.But the only reason men "seem superior" (holds up two fingers on each hand)is because men who create certain businesses (only created the business by helpers who thought men were best)passed it on to their workers,who only think men are better because 1)They are a man,or 2)They are possibly a woman who was raised in a guy society.Main point;most females are better than males,while a small percentage of males are like me(smart,able to defend himself,sensitive,and doesn`t judge anyone).

And how the heck did this change from marriage again?Well,from my opinion,marriage should only be an option if you like every single thing about your partner and every ambition.And I still don`t see why you need rings or the female changing her last names.What`s wrong with boys changing their last names to the girls or just keep their names.Actually,marriage is only optional if the pair believe they want to feel okay instead of embarrassed that they share the house and children.Practically,it seems kind of like a waste of money,time,and space.I see nothing wrong with staying together without marriage.

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]okay, marriage is mostly useless. but it's okay when you REALLY REALLY love some one and the woman doesn't care about being a little under rated compared to the man.

anyways, stop it with the feminine views. no one is saying one sex is superior to the other. we're just saying that once you get married, the woman is USUALLY discredited compared to the man.[/quote]
"no one is saying one sex is superior to the other" u kno...u just did: "woman doesn't care about being a little under rated compared to the man." rite there ur saying that men are "superior" to women. i also didn't start this one sex is superior to another...

"anyways, stop it with the feminine views." Why? i wouldn't have brought up all the "feminine views" if ppl didn't start saying that males are superior to females. if in this debate only masculine views can be seen and heard then i'm sorry...but i think that most of the males out there should to kno that women are just as good as men and not inferior. of course some males think that they are...

hum.............Marriage is for the people to choose.......for me I'm not gonna get married.......why? because I think it breaks up the couple........My friend's parents aren't married and they've been a couple since forever she told me........so I think Marriage is just plain useless.........U can give a ring to your gurl without having to marry her...... :biggrin:

Well, there are woman who don't have sex tell marriage,and there are guys who pratice absence from sex tell marriage.

People marry to have a proper family,and have sex freely,an to become something more with the person they claim to love.

Also...some people like to elimate the option of not being with there better half.Even though you can get a divorce.....most married couples try to avoid this.Marriage is traditional too.

Settling down shows respect for yours and your family.Thats why there are weddings too.

Thats what I think about this...

marriage is uselees........yo look at all the strars......they get married, they divorced and they take half the money of the person........some people just do it for the money or things it will bring if they divorce.........I know I,m never gonna get married.......not just for the money thing but for me marrigae is a scary #### and it's also useless..........

in the beginning, God created man first b4 woman and both of them were blessed to enherit the earth which means both two have equal rights to govern God's creations ;)

its true what every man can do, woman can
i have great respects on woman bcoz i have a mother and a sister

but there are some things a woman cant do that a man can, wanna know.....?

standing when urinating :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Yes bloodpack many people believe in God creating man and woman, but tell that to the others that don't believe in God. They're going to bring up evolution from monkeys.

That would be me. :p

[quote:post_uid0="AngelWings"][quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]okay, marriage is mostly useless. but it's okay when you REALLY REALLY love some one and the woman doesn't care about being a little under rated compared to the man.

anyways, stop it with the feminine views. no one is saying one sex is superior to the other. we're just saying that once you get married, the woman is USUALLY discredited compared to the man.[/quote]
"no one is saying one sex is superior to the other" u kno...u just did: "woman doesn't care about being a little under rated compared to the man." rite there ur saying that men are "superior" to women. i also didn't start this one sex is superior to another...

"anyways, stop it with the feminine views." Why? i wouldn't have brought up all the "feminine views" if ppl didn't start saying that males are superior to females. if in this debate only masculine views can be seen and heard then i'm sorry...but i think that most of the males out there should to kno that women are just as good as men and not inferior. of course some males think that they are...[/quote]
how did i say that woman were inferior to men?

i said that two people should only marry when they really love each other and the woman doesn't mind with being under rated because that's what society tends to do, under rate the woman's abilities after marriage, because they tend to think the men should be in control of everything and the role of woman are insignificant.

as i said before, no one is saying that woman are inferior to men. so there is no need for feminine views. even if there such cases of sexism, i'm sure most of us more "educated" men will know the truth (which is that both sexes are equal).