If SF, and DB fought(and on ground), who would win?

Post why you think each would win(and don't say dumb things like, "because gOkU cAnZ detrsoZ dA uNIverz"), back up your evidence also.

because gOkU cAnZ detrsoZ dA uNIverz :D

jk, i think db because i dont see ryu blowing up a planet with his finger

dbz, cause goku or any of the z fighters can blow up the earth. this is confirmed since goku is stronger than frieza and frieza can blow up a planet.

Look, we're talking about two different series here. I don't see how I can compare. So, I'll say... (eenie meenie minie...) Street Fighter. Because.... it's just cooler that way? (They're the underdogs..)

EDIT: N/M I just saw the on the ground part. Street Fighter for sure, because first of all, Any smart DB character (if there are any... j/k) wouldn't blow up the earth if they were standing on it. And Street Fighter Characters got Ground Hypers/specials/supers that they can use. some can teleport (and still stay on the ground), while others can shoot huge fireballs, and others use their speed to finish off there opponents. They just have the advantage on the ground.

FOOL! haven't you ever seen the sf animated series or any sf movies! you can easily see the difference in the way they fight. sf fights can barely destroy a sky scraper but a dbz battle can destroy mountains.

Speaking of fools.

you cant even finish a post :withstupid:

Whatever. I'm just not as aggressive as you men (or I should say boys...).

most dbz characters are faster than the speed of light and sound. of course they'll win a ground battle. goku has even said it himself that he perfers fighting on the ground rather than the air. dbz characters can do energy attacks on the ground! how the hell do you think gohan managed to defeat cell?! a kamehameha like that would've destroyed the earth, so both cell and gohan did kamehamehas against each other on the ground. vegeta's final flash attack could easily blow up new york. can any sf characters do that?

I dunno. They've never tried to, now have they? And Sakura herself was used (in SFA3) to destroy someplace (I forget where) by M. Bison. JUST Sakura's energy destroyed an area. Now, add all the characters together, and they could destroy planets too. But this is just my hunch.

It's just funny how people like to exaggerate the DB characters. Cell can't go fast the the speed of light, SSJ2 Gohan can't go fast than the speed of light. only people as strong as SSJ Gotenks and up can go faster than the speed of light. Some DB characters can't blow up the earth. Krillin for example can't, he has a lot of chi, but not enough to destroy the earth(he can destroy a huge portion of the earth though).

None of the humans are stronger than Freiza, I'd debate whether Krillin or Tenshinhan were stronger than Freiza form 1, or weaker.

Vegetas final flash would destroy the world if it was directly aimed at it, but it was aimed at Cell, so it didn't destroy him.



Now to give out some SF points:

Akuma can destroy a huge mountain in one blow(SF3: double impact ending)

Akuma can stay under DEEP water(500 meters below sea level) for hours, even days, which none of the Z warriors can do.(SF3: third strike ending)

Akuma can destroy a huge boat with one attack(SF3: third strike ending)

Gill can conrtol fire and ice anywhere(so that means he can make fire appear under your ass when he's 1,000 miles away)

Gill can bring fire and ice out of the heavens, and deep below anytime.

Gill has the power to change the earths temperature.

Gill has godly powers, this is shown when he does the seraphic wing, he grows angel wings, and destroys anything in his path.

Don't take the animated movies for canon, look at the gameplay.

And physicals, not all of the Z warriors can blow up the earth with one finger(Krillin, Chaotzu, Tenshinhan, Yamucha).

yeah that happenes if you lose to bison happened with Ken of course then Ryu storms in and goes scitsofranick and Kills Bison because Ryu and Ken are Like brothers or something. and with Akuma (still don't know how I even got that far with him) with his energy he blows up the world. And besides Ryu could beat Piccalo with his super whirlwind kick (can't remember the actual name) and I'm sure Dahasalam could beat Krillin. heh wonder what a Bison vs. SuperBoo fight would be like. And FYI Prince there was only one Street fighter movie wasent that good either well for the time I guess it was good. But the fight against Bison was like the best part. and also the series was discontnued. :(

yeah that happens if you lose to bison happened with Ken of course then Ryu storms in and goes scitsofranick and Kills Bison because Ryu and Ken are Like brothers or something. and with Akuma (still don't know how I even got that far with him) with his energy he blows up the world. And besides Ryu could beat Piccalo with his super whirlwind kick (can't remember the actual name) and I'm sure Dahasalam could beat Krillin. heh wonder what a Bison vs. SuperBoo fight would be like. And FYI Prince there was only one Street fighter movie wasent that good either well for the time I guess it was good. But the fight against Bison was like the best part. and also the series was discontnued. :(
err sorry about the double poast my comp froze.

I doubt Ryu could beat Piccolo, unless he gave into the Dark Hadou.

well actually they do move the speed of light........ remember when dbz first started and they were fighting radditz......... picollo tried to hit him with a KI attack and radditz dodged...... after that piccolo said he can move at the speed of light..... you can go look if you want

they are right tarkan !
for someone to disappear from your sight by just running they have to go to the speed of light so they are fast enought to do it !

remember SSJ goku vs Freeza ?
they were moving so fast that the whole sceneray got slowed down for us to see them fight !

anyway, i think TarkanX here as a point... we wouldn't know who would win cause if we take the DB series not DBZ they aren't that strong and need lots of time to gather ki !

Basing my judgement solely on techniques and not at all on powers, it would be a tie.

The Hadouken and Dark Hadou are similar to the Kikou Ha.

The Messatsu no Hadou and Shinkuu Hadouken (versus series forms) are comparable to the Kame Hame Ha, Galiku Hou, and Final Flash.

Messatsu no Zankuu (versus series form) is comparable to the Renzoku Kikou Ha attack.

The Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpukyaku (somewhat) and the Shippu Jinraisu (sp) are very similar to Goku's Abesergi Kick (named only in games, performed on Perfect Cell in the Cell games).

Akuma, Evil Ryu, and Evil Sakura's teleportation move (God I feel dumb for forgetting the name) is comporable to Goku and King Kai's Shunkan Idou (that's Instant Transmission for you dubbies).
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On another note, TarkanX is correct that no DBZ character has the capacity for speeds at or beyond the speed of light, necessarily. The anime is not accurate in showing the increase in speed and strength, or these long, grueling 20-minute segments of fighting would start to be crammed into perhaps 30 seconds, judging by my calculations (I have no life, I admit it) of how much faster they should have become, and how fast the anime shows them moving. The manga allows you to use your imagination, eliminating this slow-mo play-by-play on TV.

Another factor is that if their speeds are indeed approaching the speed of light, Einsteins theory of relativity (that space and time are intertwined) comes into play. The fighters would experience a slowdown of time in comparison to the rest of the world, but they would see the rest of the world as moving VERY quickly. In effect, the two fighters would travel forwards in time in perspective to the crowd of watching people, making their movements APPEAR to be faster than the speed of light, when in reality by the fighters' perspective they are not travelling that fast.
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Anybody who can understand what I said care to debate my points :D?

you're right about what eisntein said about space and time...
but no one could ever test his theory, so how could you know that it's true ?

and another question for you:
what speed does it take to vanish completely from sight ?
cause that's exactly what happen in dbz !
and look at fact like the DB series made in the fight with jackie chun vs krillin !
in 1 second they did about 20 moves each other !
jackie chun zanzoken technique is done by moving real fast !
so what speed does it takes to let an image behind you ?
he even let 3 of em ! and goku this it too and letted 4 images...

i dont know the speed but i can only guess they were at the speed of light. and in the freeza fight goku himself stopped and look around himself to try and understand why the whole planet was that slow compared to him ! so i can say he actually was fast enought to completely slow down a whole planet !

Now think for a moment. If the DB fighters could move at the speed of light, what would be the point of the instant transmission? Things disappear from your eyes even when they're not moving at the speed of light. Can you see a bullet that's fired? It's not even close to the speed of light.

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]most dbz characters are faster than the speed of light and sound. of course they'll win a ground battle. goku has even said it himself that he perfers fighting on the ground rather than the air. dbz characters can do energy attacks on the ground! how the hell do you think gohan managed to defeat cell?! a kamehameha like that would've destroyed the earth, so both cell and gohan did kamehamehas against each other on the ground. vegeta's final flash attack could easily blow up new york. can any sf characters do that?[/quote]
...M. Bison maybe., Akuma, with a tap of my fist, I mean his fist to the ground would blow any land!

ok, perhaps not speed of light, but real fast anyway !

i mean if you saw the series where the fight between freeza and ssjgoku were fighting. then you know what i mean when i say they were fast enough. the whole planet was way much slower than them !

it's not anyday that you can see volcano and lava waves going around you and seeing them goes at about .5 km/h !

if that isn't fast enough !

But then again, Goku Died in that battle (he got hit by the lava and melted away...) but he was wished back. so Nyah! :p
And besides that, you never saw the speed of the whole planet, because the planet was kind of pre-occupied with the fact that they were being destroyed by the purple&white freak. (otherwise known as Freeza) So I'm still sticking with street fighters as the best.

goku didn't died in that battle, he founded a space ship and launched it at random to get the hell out of there !

crash landing on yardrats (where he learned the instant transmission)

roll, you don't know anything about dbz and you only know about sf. dbz characters have fought many times on the ground. sure, akuma can destroy a mountain, but can he fly? it takes a certain amount of energy to propel yourself in the air. i don't think any sf characters can do that. you have to be at a certain level of power to be able to fly. if akuma or any other sf characters can do that, then they are not at the same level as dbz characters.

that's because they focus all their energy into thir attacks! I mean come on think of what you're saying! so you're saying that sence Magneto and Storm can fly they can blow up plannets?! :baaa: and Ryu could beat Piccalo because his super whirlwind kick can suck you in and his shinku haodken could cancel out the special beam cannon. AS for the speed of light bit it's quite possible that they were moveing faster than the speed of light but not fast enough to go into the future so as they went faster time slowed down I mean come on do you realy think they could do that much fighting in 5 minutes?http://www.gamegen.com/fightgen/cf2_rock.gif :yinyang:

okay. for all of the people thinking streetfighter would win, i pity u. have u ever seen how fast the dbz characters move when they fight? you can't even see them. you see the places where they are hitting eachother repeatedly really fast. anyway, any of the dbz fighters could dodge one of the shinkuu hadokens or any of the streetfighter special attacks. and could the streetfighters jump as high as the dbz fighters do? no i don't think so. and when goten was training with gohan for the world martial art tournament, goten threw a rock threw a solid mountain easily! and gohan dodged it. there are so many more reasons but i can't list them all here. its obvious that dbz would win

I'm not about to get sucked into a huge debate but I'll bring up a few points that nobody's mentioned...

Taunts: Dan Hibiki would most certainly be able to distract many DB fighters with his endless array of tauntshttp://www.geocities.com/tenistarkag...supertaunt.gif

Gravity: If they were fighting somewhere where the gravity could change, ie: Bobidy's ship, then DB fighters would have a HUGE advantage

Muten Roshi: If the DB fighers got into a jam, they could always call out Muten Roshi with his endless supply of porn to cause mass illness on the side of the Street Fighters (although it would be impossible to do this without escaping some casualties on their own side).

Bulma: In the even that all else fails, Bulma could come out on the side of the DB fighters and most certainly annoy several Street Fighters to death.

Dammit, Im tired of some of you people saying DBZ is better because they can blow up shiit, just imagine, If they all fought on the ground and didn't use any "special" or "Normal" attacks (not even Hadouken or Kamehameha), then who would win?

Think about it..
With all the SF chr's being able to fight on ground and real good, DBZ hasn't a chance.

SF Wins. :!:

lol, no street fighter character can even live in a place with 400x earth's gravity. no, magneto can fly because he can control metal. storm can fly cause she use wind. neither of them uses energy. it's just their mutant powers. but we're talking about sf characters here! marvel characters are a bit less realistic than sf characters. what the hell is wrong with you ppl? why do you all think dbz characters can't fight on ground? if they're strong enough to fly then they're bound to be strong on the ground. before dbz in dragon ball they never knew how to fly. before they knew how to fly, how do you think they trained?!

this thread is biased since it's in this forum, cause i'm sure there are more sf fans than dbz fans, post this in a dbz forum and we'll see who wins. :sneaky2:

Man you guys keep using the anime as your source of facts, and thanks Dan for summing it all up.

There is no movement in the manga, and no one ever says that anyone moves at the speed of light, and no one ever does until the Buu saga.

And when I say DB, i meant DB in general, I don't like sayng DBZ because does it says DB"Z" in the manga cover? No it doesn't.

Some characters from SF can fly, Shin Bison, Gill, Rose(float), Oro(float). And you don't need to fly to win.

If it were a water battle(fighting in water), SF would definately win, DB characters can't stay in water that long, just as long as a normal human(but a bit higher). if it were an air battle, DB characters would definately win because most of the SF cast can't even fly, and the ones that can fly(float) don't hover that far from the ground(I believe Oro can fly, but just not as good as Bison, or Gill).

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]roll, you don't know anything about dbz and you only know about sf. dbz characters have fought many times on the ground. sure, akuma can destroy a mountain, but can he fly? it takes a certain amount of energy to propel yourself in the air. i don't think any sf characters can do that. you have to be at a certain level of power to be able to fly. if akuma or any other sf characters can do that, then they are not at the same level as dbz characters.[/quote]
Sorry, but I just noticed princevegetam's post here.

The technique you refer to is Buku Jyutsu, and just like any other technique it must be learned. The Street Fighter characters (most of them) obviously have enough Ki to support this technique; it is just that most of them don't know the technique.

i would have compared to the manga,but the manga dont give that much detail...

buu saga...
vegetto give 1 hit there then buu try something then vegetto give another hit here then buu absorb it ! where is the fun in that ?

anyway, i like DB and SF evenly but i still say it would be DB char who would win cause of there techniques not cause of there speed or anything else !

in a hand-to-hand fight it would be even since they all use martial arts so we cant decide on that !

I don't think that DB has any attacks where it sends the person's soul to Hell... Street Fighter wins based upon techniques! Look at my really long post a page ago!

but you know how fast the dbz fighters punch and kick compared to the streetfighters? its that simple

:sleepy: I said that based upon [b:post_uid8]techniques[/b:post_uid8], and not physical strength. Street Fighter techniques are superior to DBZ ones in many respects.

If any of watched streetfighte Zero Alpha you would know that steertfighter characters are just as strong as DBZ ones especially ryu. In the movie ryu's hadoken did as much damage as any blast a Dbz characters blast can do. His charged up one is as big as KAmahama does as much damage as it probably even more. He was destroying buildings in the movie, and when he did blast you could have seen the explosion from a far just like on DBZ. OH and Evilryu and GOUKI.......well they would have torn any DBZ chracter apart no hesistation. Oh yeah and in the movie one of E.ryu's hadokens (evil wave) was gonna destroy the earth but chun li had to stop him.

First of all, I DO watch Dragon Ball Z. I happen to think it's very amusing. But I still say SF has a *slightly* bigger advantage. Second, Goku did die. Not after freeza though. Before the death of Freeza (or the appearance of it anyway...), Goku was knocked into lava, and thus, he disappeared out of existance of that life plane. But the dragon Balls on NAMEK (which were revived, since Kame used the earth dragon balls to restore that fat Namekian)were used to revive everyone that was killed by Freeza, including Goku. Thus, he had his third chance at life. If you actually watched the episodes carefully, then you would've noticed. And I still think a SF Character would win, because this is based on ground fights. Take away the HUGE energy attacks that can blow up a planet (which wouldn't be a wise choice of attack), and the fact that they can fly, and what do you have? Just muscles and heads with mouths that flap. But I agree, they do have speed. But I have to wonder about Vitality...

Street figher can beat DBZ. Watch streetfighter Zero Alpha the movie and you'll see what I mean.