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Selvin 09-02-2001 08:23 AM

in the game ryu was given many moves they included; fireball, fireball super, punches(l,m,h), kicks(l,m,h),combos, and the uppercut. but you forgot one thing in the arcade version RYU WAS ABLE TO DO A UPPERCUT SUPER. PLEASE PUT THIS MOVE IN THE GAME. I WOULD WIN ALOT MORE IF YOU DID CAUSE I USE THAT MOVE THE MOST!

Lordcyris 09-02-2001 01:04 PM

i have the arcade roms and never ever have i ever seen ryu do a super dragon punch
ken does it


TarkanX 09-02-2001 02:03 PM

Lord is right, there is now super shoryuken.

Selvin 09-02-2001 02:21 PM

I have done and seen the move in street fighter vs. marvel and since you put spider-man in the game so why can't you just put in the upper-cut super

Selvin 09-02-2001 07:17 PM

Shin Shoryuken
This is the move from Street fighter 3. It may seem useless, but it's powerful. Ryu does his uppercut move and hits the opponent 3 times. It takes away some life too. If you can get'em in the air, it could be upto 8 hits. So don't think it's weak.

i got this from the website http://www.angelfire.com/nc/sahiduls.../> <br /> so now that i have proven it exists please put it in the game cause it would be much easier for me then doing some regular uppercut

Storm Rider 09-02-2001 09:25 PM

um, sorry selvin, but i've clocked x-men vs sf a million times and unfortunatly Ryu can't do a dragon punch in the air. but Ken can. btw i checked out ur site but for some reason it doesn't work for me :angry: :(


Lordcyris 09-02-2001 09:26 PM

ahh yes streetfighter 3 the forgotten streetfighter sequal
didnt xmen vs streetfighter come out b4 sf3?
all i heard about sf3 were rumors in my day never thought they'd really do it lol

Selvin 09-03-2001 05:44 AM

strom rider just click the link and you should be redirected to the site. it works for me and should work for you

Dach 09-03-2001 10:12 AM

Yeah, XMvSF came out before even the first edition SF3.

Selvin, Shin Shoryuken is an SF3 Super Art. NOT a Vs. series super move. Giving Ryu that move would give too much power and priority to him. Ryu is the master of the Hadoken and Ken is the master of the Shoryuken. That's the way it is.

The ONLY time Ken has never done a Shinkuu Hadoken in ANY Street Fighter game is when he's part of a Double Super in X-Men Vs Street Fighter, partnered with Ryu, and when Ryu only instigates that Double Super.

And the only reason Ryu got the Shin Shoryuken in SF3 is because he lost the Super Hurricane Kick (can't remember the actual name for this) and he needed another Super Art.
And the animation frames for that Super Art are SF3 Ryu frames. Compare the two art styles, and he looks completely different.

It just wouldn't work. Let the insides of a single character go untouched, otherwise you can't call it X-Men Vs Street Fighter, just "Some Spazzy But Cool X-Men and Street Fighter Game That's Been Totally Butchered From The Original And Is Online And Is Built In Shockwave".

zhangfeihoudai 09-03-2001 10:24 AM

I also want Shinshoryuken appear in this online game.
Two more thing:Will Ryu hvae throw move in the future?
Will he can launch out Shinkuu Hadoken in the air?

Lordcyris 09-03-2001 12:16 PM

ok throw move*******CHEAP!!!!!!!****
all i have to say
they can walk up to u and jab u then grab while u blocking then throw you
********CHEAP********
skill-less and cheap
did i say CHEAP?
anyway ***CHEAP****

(Edited by Lordcyris at 7:39 pm on Sep. 3, 2001)

Selvin 09-04-2001 12:10 PM

will dach, thank you for your imput but honestly i don't care. I put this up for the people you made this game to reply. if you are one of them okay. but i didn't even talk about ken. how come you brang him up?

Dach 09-04-2001 03:05 PM

To immediately circumvent a possible arguement that you might've used against my 'Ken = Shoryuken, Ryu = Hadoken' paragraph, such as, "Oh, but Ken has a Shinkuu Hadoken in XMvSF!"

Quote:

will dach, thank you for your imput but honestly i don't care. I put this up for the people you made this game to reply.
Uh, sorry? People that reply who aren't part of the team who made the game immediately don't matter? Is it me or is this reasoning completely SHIT?
Excuse me, but this is our game too. Some people may not like the idea of the original being tampered with in such a way. Did you ever think about that? I accept that you may want the move in, and I considered that, but didn't think it was a good idea. But noooo, suddenly you don't care for my post and don't care for the fact that this is our goddamn game too? Up yours.

Dock 09-04-2001 03:35 PM

Dach is right, the Shin Shoryuken isn't part of Ryu's X-men vs SF move list, and to add the move in would be a big mistake. It's not about adding as many moves as possible Selvin, it's about game and character balance. Technically you could rip the frames from the equivelent move from Streetfighter Alpha 3, but that's not the point - it's not supposed to be in the game, and would ruin the game balance.

Selvin, I don't actually think you understand or appreciate the structure of the game and what makes the game good and enjoyable in the first place, or if you do then you're seriously confused by asking to have different moves artificially spliced into the melee!!

--dock

09-04-2001 03:44 PM

####, you all don't get out much do you.
Ryu has the move Shin SHoRyuKen, But i don't believe he gets this move until Marvel vs. Capcom.
Yes it is in SF3, but the fact is, its still in the vs. series games. If he has this move before MvC, you can correct me.

Dock 09-04-2001 03:50 PM

Quote:

Quote: from B0oGiE on 6:44 pm on Sep. 4, 2001
####, you all don't get out much do you.
Ryu has the move Shin SHoRyuKen, But i don't believe he gets this move until Marvel vs. Capcom.
Yes it is in SF3, but the fact is, its still in the vs. series games. If he has this move before MvC, you can correct me.
Marvel vs Capcom and Xmen-vs-SF have a different set of mechanics. If this game is meant to be MVC, then they should start with MVC from the beginning. As for your (childish) comment about people getting out much, I personally spent last night at an exclusive invitation only Sony-organised party in London.

--dock

09-05-2001 06:49 AM

Quote:

Quote: from Dock on 6:50 pm on Sep. 4, 2001[br
Marvel vs Capcom and Xmen-vs-SF have a different set of mechanics. If this game is meant to be MVC, then they should start with MVC from the beginning. As for your (childish) comment about people getting out much, I personally spent last night at an exclusive invitation only Sony-organised party in London.

--dock
It is my belief that this is an amalgamation of the vs. series. If it isn't then why are different characters from various vs. (+ helpers/strikers)

Different mechanics??? they both run on the CPS2 board.

and the getting out comment... I was referring to the fact that no one seemed to know that ryu had the move in MvC, not that people don't get out.
An exclusive london party.. ooooo, im so impressed i think i'm just not going to care. You don't need to validate yourself to me, who are you trying to impress?

Dach 09-05-2001 09:15 AM

He's talking about gameplay mechanics, not actual mechanics that the game runs on.

Selvin 09-05-2001 02:04 PM

Thank god there is someone else that knows this move exists, finnally. I just hope that there are more people like boogie and sonner or later they will speak up.

Dach 09-05-2001 03:16 PM

I've slapped in my copy of MvC1 in again after months of it not being played and toyed around with Ryu in Training mode.

Yep, he has Shin Shoryuken, but only in Ken mode (half circle back, P). Reason for this being that Ken isn't in MvC, just like he wasn't in MSHvSF.

Problem with this is that in Ken mode, Ryu acts exactly like Ken; longer recovery during Hadoken, flaming Shoryuken, wider Shoryuken, more hits, less range on the Hurricane Kick.

If you gave Ryu Ken's Shin Shoryuken and left all the other qualities in there, the balance between the Shoto's is lost. What's the point in using Ken purely because of his Shin Shoryuken if Ryu has it as well as Shinkuu Hadoken?

Seeeee, this is what I was talking about in the first place.
Selvin, if you like Ryu's Shin Shoryuken in SF3, you're going to be disappointed with the Ken Alpha/Vs version - it's nothing like it, does a #### of a lot less damage and less priority in the air. You may win with it in SF3 (as do I - it's my fav Super Art with Ryu), but it's just so different in the Vs. Series, I see no real point in implementing it if Ken's going to have it too.

Also, what the fuck is your problem with me in all the other threads? Do you just not like people disagreeing with you or something?

ewalk 09-05-2001 03:28 PM

i just wanna let everyone know 1 thing... i got no #### idea who does what move, and personnaly I wanna let you all fight it out, simply cause ya'all are so #### nasty to each other wooohooo FIGHT!!!

:):)

Selvin 09-05-2001 03:32 PM

It isn't that I hate when people disagree with me. Hey, that is a way a life. It just gets me upset because, my friends and I used to play Marvel vs. Street Fighter before we started playing X-Men vs. Street Fighter and I ask my friends to play the computer and to fight me and all of us we go to an arcade and be able to do a Shin Uppercut. It isn't like kens which goes across the screen. It goes directly up and does 9 hits or something like that. I don't know if any of you play Marvel vs. Street Fighter in mall arcades. Come on people. Waste 1 dollar and choose Ryu and do 2 half circles and then his 2 weak punches. I am sure he has that uppercut. But anyways itreally dosen't matter because the creators of this game have brought in the helpers. So if the wanted to bring in the super they would have instead of the helpers. Ah, well. Forget about this topic. Leftyb, if you want to close this thread, go ahead.

Selvin 09-05-2001 03:34 PM

Ewalk you want at least 32 players whoa, this is going to be one sweeeeet fight club (tournament, same thing)

e-mail = selvinca@yahoo.ca

09-06-2001 10:34 AM

Quote:

Quote: from Dach on 6:16 pm on Sep. 5, 2001
I've slapped in my copy of MvC1 in again after months of it not being played and toyed around with Ryu in Training mode.

Yep, he has Shin Shoryuken, but only in Ken mode (half circle back, P). Reason for this being that Ken isn't in MvC, just like he wasn't in MSHvSF.

Problem with this is that in Ken mode, Ryu acts exactly like Ken; longer recovery during Hadoken, flaming Shoryuken, wider Shoryuken, more hits, less range on the Hurricane Kick.

If you gave Ryu Ken's Shin Shoryuken and left all the other qualities in there, the balance between the Shoto's is lost. What's the point in using Ken purely because of his Shin Shoryuken if Ryu has it as well as Shinkuu Hadoken?

Seeeee, this is what I was talking about in the first place.
Selvin, if you like Ryu's Shin Shoryuken in SF3, you're going to be disappointed with the Ken Alpha/Vs version - it's nothing like it, does a #### of a lot less damage and less priority in the air. You may win with it in SF3 (as do I - it's my fav Super Art with Ryu), but it's just so different in the Vs. Series, I see no real point in implementing it if Ken's going to have it too.

Also, what the fuck is your problem with me in all the other threads? Do you just not like people disagreeing with you or something?
OK... after much thought about this, (why i don't know) I realized that i could just pop in MvC and find out for myself.

Since i couldn't remember the name of the move i did them both.

in "Ryu" mode: Forward, DOwn, DownForward + 2Punches = Shin Sho Ryuu Ken.

That his his super, IT consists of three hits: the first is a gut punch, followed by a slight pop-up of the move, then finishes with the dragon punch. That is if the oponent is on the ground. IF ryu (in ryu mode) does the move while the oponenet is in air, it will hit roughly 6-8 times (kind of like sagats tiger uppercut).

Ken (Ryu's Ken Mode) has the Shin Ryuu Ken: Down, Forward + 2Kicks.

This move is a straight up and down button mashing move, where if and when ken hits the oponent, will do up to 18 hits. Ken is surrounded by a pillar of fire and light.

Thes moves are completly different. They ARE BOTH there. Try them, you will find them.

This has been your special service announcement from B0oGiE, drive safely.

AND, if you still dont believe me, go to http://www.gamefaqs.com/ and look it up yourself.

Whoops sorry about the previous link... i'm a tard. The link is correct now.


(Edited by B0oGiE at 11:46 am on Sep. 7, 2001)

Selvin 09-06-2001 02:16 PM

Hey boogie, at least their is someone else on earth who knows this moves exists. To prove your point more I went to your link and when i did 20 popups went onto my computer. lol

ewalk 09-06-2001 03:22 PM

fight fight fight

Airlock 09-08-2001 06:08 PM

The Shin-Shoryuken appeared in Capcom vs. SNK as well, and may be in Marvel vs. Capcom 2. I'll check that shortly and let everyone know.

BrainDed7726 09-08-2001 08:23 PM

Actually, The Shin-ShoryuKen Was included in Marvel Vs. Capcom as well as the Street fighter Zero (Alpha) Series which means the sprites for that super do exist. From what I've seen, Ryu does about 4 or 3 punches and goes into a left handed Shoryu-Ken (If you're on the left side) The command was F,D,DF,F Px2, if you decide to implement it...

Selvin 09-09-2001 04:08 PM

YEAH!, okay for some reason all of a sudden. I think the shin shoryuKen is a loss cause aand now all of a sudden people are saying it exists. so just wondering i am asking for people to vote to see if the shin shoryuKen should be added. if enough people say yes hopfully the move will be added to the game

Yes the move should be added

Selvin 09-15-2001 05:37 AM

"cough"

BrainDed7726 09-15-2001 08:52 AM

umm... YEAH! Shin Shoryuken! Bring it Back! and stuff.

*cough*

TMyApp 09-15-2001 10:53 AM

Don't worry, I'm reading all of this :)

Selvin 09-16-2001 06:29 AM

marvel vs. capcom 1 and 2 have it, marvel vs. street fighter has it, street fighter 3 has it. and since you added iceman, it can be added here right? right?

"cough"

thxs for correcting me


(Edited by Selvin at 5:00 pm on Sep. 16, 2001)

BrainDed7726 09-16-2001 01:40 PM

nad? do you mean rad?

Selvin 09-29-2001 11:08 AM

Some of you may be wondering why I brought this forum back. Two reasons. The first is that I have decided to be a freedom fighter and fight the system. Second it is, because people keep jumping and then doing a kick down. Now there is one move that would totally destroy them. The Shin Shoryuken.

shinvector 09-29-2001 11:48 AM

History of Ryu's Shin Shoryuken.

Hmmmm... Why don't you guys know this..

In the versus series Ryu's Shin Shoryuken already appeared in MarvelSuperheros VS. Streetfighter.

It continued on too Marvel vs. CApcom And that where Ryu received that new move, the "ryu, ken, akuma" change ability.

In Marvel vs. CApcom 2 Ryu has changed back to his XmvsSF form as compared to his SLow but strong form in MvC.

I am not super when the Shin Shoryuken first appear. Since it exsisted in Msh VS. SF
It could be around since Streefighter Zero or maybe even during the SF2 turbo XX or what nonesens edition.

Hope that clears somethings..


shinvector 09-29-2001 12:08 PM

Hmmm.. I see another error.

Ryu's Super list:

Shin Hadoken = His ultimate beam super

Tanamaki Sepuyaku (sp?) = His suck in Hurricane kick super

Shin Shoruken = Also called "true dragon punch" (i read that somewhere) the super version of the shin shoryuken.

For MvC. Don't get the Ken and akuma versions confused with Ryu. Those guys are not him and never was. Capcom just wanted to cut corners by not making the other guys

OH oh...

I can some more details.

The Shin Shoryuken are slightly different in the V. games.

In Msh vs. SF (first appearance)
I wasn't that good damage was ok but range suck.. you really have to touching the other dude sprite to make it connect. Uses 1 super meter.

In MvC. HAHAH... This is when i love the move. MvC always game you 1 super meter free at the start of the match. Well fighting trigger happy Wolverines in that game was very fun. Just go close to the fellar.

The moment the game says "FIGHT!" just release the Shin Shoryuken and there goes half of wolvies health bar. This move only used 1 super bar. But since MvC lacked infinites.. I just love pull it off as a close range counter move. I this game the invunrablilty time and start up time of the move was longer by bit.. And the damage was increased !

MvC2: They basically change ryu to his XmvsSF form. Even his fireball change back. I liked the MvC version.
The shin shoryu ken change abit aswell.. It is now a lvl 3 super. And that sucks.. can't pull it off as often as i liked. Infact i don't now.

Selvin 09-29-2001 12:12 PM

Thanks, I knew that, NOW TELL TMYAPP!

BrainDed7726 09-29-2001 01:47 PM

Heh, you can't call yourself a Street Fighter expert if you don't know what this move is....

Selvin 09-29-2001 01:49 PM

... What a move. The ... move of death. Oh woe is me. The ... beats the Raging Demon every time.


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